Touchscreen vs. Wheel Navigation Systems

[contact_markm]

What are the differences between the two?

 

[wallymn]

one uses a touch screen display the other is controlled by the DIS Knob.....

Sorry I couldn't resist.... I don't know the software differences which I assume you are asking about.

 

[contact_markm]

one uses a touch screen display the other is controlled by the DIS Knob.....

Sorry I couldn't resist.... I don't know the software differences which I assume you are asking about.

Everybody is a comedian, LOL.

In addition to the touch, there is also a difference in screen size. But what about the software differences? I understand the touch screen was designed by Hyundai?

 

[dataguy]

There are not many people who have had driven both a 2009/10 Genesis Sedan with the Technology Package (for the Lexicon/DIS knob-based system) and a 2010 with either V6 Premium Navigation Package or V8 base (for the touchscreen) to make a good comparison of the software.

 

[ctrcbob]

What are the differences between the two?

About $4000.

 

[contact_markm]

There are not many people who have had driven both a 2009/10 Genesis Sedan with the Technology Package (for the Lexicon/DIS knob-based system) and a 2010 with either V6 Premium Navigation Package or V8 base (for the touchscreen) to make a good comparison of the software.

Point taken. Most posts here and most reviews are about the Lexicon system. Does anybody have any experience with the touchscreen system?

 

[contact_markm]

About $4000.

My point exactly. I want the v6 (in Canada the models are base, premium and tech in the v6 or v8 with the tech). The only feature in the tech I like is the adaptive speed control and I thought the gps/info centre. After reading about the complaints on this forum regarding the Lexicon GPS, I think the Hyundai GPS may be better. Anythoughts on what the Hyyndai lacks compared to the Lexicon?

 

[sg1717]

I've been reading the forums and have noticed a lot more complaints about the tech nav.... I'll try to head into the dealer to check them both out, but was just wondering if anybody else had already did the same.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

Point taken. Most posts here and most reviews are about the Lexicon system. Does anybody have any experience with the touchscreen system?

You might want to check some Sonata forums, possibly Azera too. I think it's the same touch screen in those.
As for the DIS version, I would NOT go back to a system that didn't play DVD's. No touchscreen for me.

 

[ASHDUMP]

Sometimes my DIS has hiccups but very rarely. For instance, sometimes the USB won't work so I have to take it out and put it back in. This happens once in a blue moon.

Just like computers at home.... sometimes a restart cures all problems...

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[jwaters943]

The screen size is probably the single biggest difference (6.5" vs. 8"). The map data should be the same and the graphics look very similar as well, although I'm not 100% sure of that.

Screen shots of the touch screen Nav: http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=4893&highlight=non-tech

 

[sherrod]

After reading about the complaints on this forum regarding the Lexicon GPS, I think the Hyundai GPS may be better. Any thoughts on what the Hyyndai lacks compared to the Lexicon?

I have a 2010 with Tech package (DIS nav control). Navigation is important to me, and I was very concerned when I read all of the negative comments on this forum. I have used the nav system many times in the two months I've owned my car. It works much better than I expected. In fact, I prefer it over the Infiniti navigation system that was in my QX4 SUV.

Here are some plusses and minuses:

--- Plusses ---

* The navigation screen is large and well positioned for easy viewing. It's the best looking navigation screen display I've seen.

* It responds well to voice commands. The process of programming an address via voice is tedious, and I rarely use it. But it is nice to be able to press one button and say "Navigate home" or "Navigate work". You can also say "Navigate address book {name in address book}".

* It has a nice split-screen display that shows on the right a detailed view of an upcoming intersection while displaying the normal route overview on the left. The detailed intersection views always seem to be correct, even for unusual intersections, road splits, etc.

* When cruising without approaching a turn, it displays a list of upcoming turns and roads on the right with distances between each turn.

* The voice guidance it provides is easy to understand. It gives a pleasant "ding" sound when it is time to turn.

* You can block out areas or portions of streets that you never want it to use.

* You can say "Detour one mile", and it will quickly compute an alternate route around a problem.

* The Points of Interest facility works fairly well and quickly.

* You can program the navigation system while the car is moving. Most factory navigation systems won't allow this.

--- Negatives ---

* Programming an address is strange and sometimes very annoying. You enter the street number followed by the street name without providing a city name before the street name. I believe the reason they did this was because it's sometimes hard to know which city a street is in when several cities run together. For example, around here a street could be in Nashville, Brentwood, or Franklin within +/- a mile. Many streets cross all three towns, and the town boundaries are irregular. When the street name is unusual, this system works fine. But when you are going to Main Street it gives a list of every Main Street in the state, and you have to check them one-by-one to figure out which one is the right one. They need to do something about this.

* The voice guidance does not pronounce street names. It just says "Right turn ahead".

* Using the wheel to select numbers and letters works better than I expected, but it certainly isn't as convenient as touching a screen (my old QX4 had touch screen navigation). On the other hand, I always had fingerprints on my old navigation screen. It didn't happen to me, but I know others who have worn out sections of a touch screen that are used over and over (such as "Enter").

* The XM traffic information is not used by the navigation system to optimize route selection. Most other recent navigation systems use traffic information for routing. In fact, there seems to be very little benefit to having XM traffic.

* You have to take the car to the dealer to have map updates installed. However, because the navigation data is on a hard drive, it is faster finding points of interest than DVD based systems.

* There have been many complaints by owners of the 2009 model about no map updates since 2008. The 2010 model currently comes with maps from Sep. 2009.

* The voice command "Cancel navigation" suspends the current route; it doesn't completely cancel it. So it is still there in a suspended state until you go into the navigation screen and terminate it. You can say "Resume navigation" to resume a suspended route. They should have separate "Suspend" and "Cancel" commands.

* There are no voice commands to say something like "Navigate Mexican Resturants" or other references to points of interest.

* I have found several entries in the Points of Interest that were no longer in business. The POI database seems to be several years old even on the 2010 model.

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

sherrod...

That was a GREAT response! I don't use the nav at all, but now I want to!
Thanks

 

[sg1717]

Very helpful sherrod, especially since I am coming from an infiniti NAV also.

 

[dataguy]

Here is the link to the 2010 touchscreen nav (3.8 w/ premium nav package or 4.6 base): http://www.hmaservice.com/pds/419/Genesis_Touchscreen_Navigation_Manual.pdf (WARNING: large PDF)

 

[Socrates]

I am currently shopping for a Genesis and I have driven cars with both systems.

1) the tech version is much larger, clearer, and has a more high-end appearance;

2) the touch screen version has better ipod integration;

3) if you care about the sound system, the tech version comes with the 17 speaker Lexicon system which, in my opinion, is far superior to the 14 speaker Lexicon system that comes with the touch screen nav (this for me was a deal-breaker for the touch screen/14 speaker version);

4) as pointed out, for the specific navigation function, you can read the user manuals for both systems on hmaservice.com;