Watch your back? No - watch your front!

[Milkmaster]

Seems to me you are more interested in complaining and yanking the chain on other members than having constuctive discussion. For the good it does, this thread should simply be closed. I am tired of reading it. C ya!

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

This all goes back to the commonly held idea that no matter what happens to you in life, it is the fault someone else. He should be happy it only cost $150 to fix. My wife had a Saab Viggen that did the same thing and the front bumper cover was $1350 just for the part and it was held on with plastic clips that broke every time the cover hit a parking block. So this was a cheap lesson to learn and in the future don't park by braille.

Gaweddd I swear. What planet are all of you Hyundai defenders from anyway? Listen carefully: If you're drunk...stoned - like you are most of the time - and park neglectfully - ok. Your fault. But any friggen vehicle they MASS PRODUCT that can't pull into one of the IDENTICAL type parking places that appear in every country on earth - without wrecking it - hey? Guys? Speak about get a life? It's apparent you already have a life. You're only lacking brains. There is no excuse for any car that is factory made - to wreck - when just parking it. Parking is an everyday - everywhere thing - and 99% of all parking - involves one of these cement stops.

Do you actually think when Hyundai designed this car - they didn't think would have this problem? Those of you who say they thought/knew of it - then have to agree they came to the conclusion of - "Drivers will just have to be careful parking." And anyone who thinks this way - is an idiot! Careful? Parking?????????? Please!!

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

Seems to me you are more interested in complaining and yanking the chain on other members than having constuctive discussion. For the good it does, this thread should simply be closed. I am tired of reading it. C ya!

Just as it seams to me - your alleged constructive member friends (yeah right!) only want to argue. Anyone decent - or who had a brain - would have read that post and said to themselves - "You know what? This will help many. I knew of it - but many probably didn't. Good post"

That would have been the intelligent thought. But no! These freaks like to argue and defend and grab center stage. Well do it fast because I'm heading out quick. Already turned in my resignation. This is all too much crap for me. Maybe I need to "man up". ;-))))))))))))

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

Perhaps the KIA Soul is more your speed. Plenty of ground clearence and, best of all, you can bring along your hamster friends (whom actually might sympathize with your plight).

With all due respect, this is a common sense thing. No where in your owners manual does it state that you should not engage solid concrete barriers, Hummers, small childeren or pets, because the car is not designed to handle these things and will be damaged. Using your logic, the owners manual should also list such things as, not getting your head/neck stuck in the power windows, or, God forbid, the power sunroof while driving. Other "serious" omissions from automobile owners manuals include: failure to warn drivers not to drive off of cliffs ( you think the parking separater was bad on your bumper?) Most manual do not give any guidance about transporting Cobras, Asps, or other venemous nakes on the front passenger seat either. Perhaps one of the most commonly overlooked warnings in a modern vehicles owners manual is a warning against carrying several hundred pounds of raw cement cinder blocks on the hood of your car. You can only imagine how pissed off I was that no one warned me about doing that...lol. I bet the dents and scratches will never come out. THis is obviously a poorly designed vehicle.

Obviously we all have to consider the source of someone who can't even spell. This dude can't even use the spell correct when writing post. Yeahhhhh...this is someone I'd really want to put stock in what he says. The guy doesn't even have a Coupe.

 

[Martinsvi]

I have been reading this thread and you are amazing. As a 50yr old, I will tell you this, learn to be responsible for your actions, as no one, repeat no one will have any sympathy for the situation you have described. I have a Amg C55 that sits lower than a Genesis coupe as well as an older 911 both will scrape a parking curb anytime and will most likely recieve damage for it.
Others have tried to describe that it isnt a design flaw or any other flaw, if you cannot operate the vehicle without damaging it, then drive something else.

This car is a sports car, it sits low and that is the end of the story. If you think Hyundai or any other mfg is going to design and install the items you want, be prepared to pay more for the car than you are able. I bought the car because I liked its shape, and the warranty didnt hurt either, I knew it was low when I purchased it, and it will ride another 1.5 inches lower once the new suspension is installed. And I still wont hit the parking curbs.

Many of you forget that driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. If you cannot grasp the skills of parking the car without damaging it then find a different ride..or better yet, maybe public transportation should be in your future. In all seriousness, you are the one here with the issue, these posters arent ganging up and defending hyundai, this would be the same reaction you would recieve at any other forum where these cars are present, be they Nissan 370z, Mercedes AMG's, Porsche's, RX8's, Corvette's, and the Italian car guys would just ignore you as the petulant one you are being.

If you do own the car, then learn to drive it without destroying it, and if you dont own one, stop being an ASS about a non issue to everyone else.

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

I have been reading this thread and you are amazing. As a 50yr old, I will tell you this, learn to be responsible for your actions, as no one, repeat no one will have any sympathy for the situation you have described. I have a Amg C55 that sits lower than a Genesis coupe as well as an older 911 both will scrape a parking curb anytime and will most likely recieve damage for it.
Others have tried to describe that it isnt a design flaw or any other flaw, if you cannot operate the vehicle without damaging it, then drive something else.

This car is a sports car, it sits low and that is the end of the story. If you think Hyundai or any other mfg is going to design and install the items you want, be prepared to pay more for the car than you are able. I bought the car because I liked its shape, and the warranty didnt hurt either, I knew it was low when I purchased it, and it will ride another 1.5 inches lower once the new suspension is installed. And I still wont hit the parking curbs.

Many of you forget that driving is a PRIVILEGE, not a right. If you cannot grasp the skills of parking the car without damaging it then find a different ride..or better yet, maybe public transportation should be in your future. In all seriousness, you are the one here with the issue, these posters arent ganging up and defending hyundai, this would be the same reaction you would recieve at any other forum where these cars are present, be they Nissan 370z, Mercedes AMG's, Porsche's, RX8's, Corvette's, and the Italian car guys would just ignore you as the petulant one you are being.

If you do own the car, then learn to drive it without destroying it, and if you dont own one, stop being an ASS about a non issue to everyone else.

Regarding your line of.."I will tell you this, learn to be responsible for your actions, as no one, repeat no one will have any sympathy for the situation you have described

Excuse me - but where in the hell did you get the idea I was initially - when posting this post - looking for sympathy? Is that what you got out of my initial post? That I was looking for sympathy? How about - trying to help others? How about - trying to spare others? Did you bother to read where other Coupe owners have suffered this loss / expense also? Granted you're a selfish SOB - who only cares of them self and not others - but I'm luckily not one in the same sinking ship.

Boy! I guess you told me. Another coke junkie for sure!!

 

[Martinsvi]

Actually..you can never be told because you will never learn. As for selfish..I only had to cruse this forum and read your other post to figure you out.

As for coke junkie..look no further than your own mirror..You are the classic troll. You bring nothing positive to a forum. I called you out and you dont like it. Grow up.....if it is possible.

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

...in just the same way that anyone can justify a major appliance manufacturer building a steam iron that positively - 100% guarantees you will burn yourself if you iron your clothes....while wearing them.

Unfortunately, someone must have ironed their clothes while wearing them and then found a good lawyer to sue the appliance manufactures...because many Owner's Manuals for irons now have a safety warning that says not to iron your clothes while wearing them.

In the famous words of Forrest Gump, "Stupid is as stupid does". I can only hope that we never get to the point where lawyers force automobile manufactures to publish thousand-page long Owner's Manuals that warn owners of every conceivable way in which they will damage their vehicle if driven without care or proficiency. Perhaps we should also add a warning not to iron your clothes while driving (or parking)?

Regarding these - thought-to-be words of wisdom - actually a paragraph of bull shit - I was riding my bike along the beach this past weekend when I saw a new white Coupe with a paper tag (just purchased) on the rear. Upon pulling to the driver’s window - he rolled it down giving me the opportunity to say...Listen...I’m not sure if you're aware - but you can't park this car near the drive-in parking areas without doing severe damage to the undercarriage."

He laughed and said it was his girlfriends car - sitting beside him - (hotter than any red coals you ever saw) at which time she smiled and said..."My mother already wrecked it." Guys? Listen: I realize you're all - thought-to-be - tough guys - and geniuses and whatever else you wanted to be (yet obviously failed at). But you're fighting a losing battle with me on this. This is a MAJOR Genesis flaw in production. It would be no different than any of you actually having brains - inventing something - marketing it - and in the process of inventing it - you covertly designed a means of the buyer of the item having no choice but to return to you at a later date - to yet HAVE TO purchase something else. It's a scam. It is fraudulent schemes and practices. I'm an attorney. I don't have to hire one to tear Hyundai an entirely new one (or any of you for that matter - if I thought there was anything left in that area to tear - obviously well reamed out by fellow MEN)

The only Stupid is as stupid does - is all of you who a) elect to counter anything I say: totally fruitless. And b) Defend Hyundai on this issue. This is a horrific Hyundai mistake. If they had only put this warning in their owner’s manual - or told the salesmen to caution us - I'd have no where t go. But they didn't - therefore - I'll own them. The only stupid people here - are all of you - who have elected to go up against me - as my record in court so far - is 89 to 1 (loss).

Now please: Prove your ignorance by just having to have “the lasts word”. Because if you counter this – you will be saying to me – “You’re right: I am ignorant and I do have to have the last word and I have to argue - even though I realize I’m arguing something I know to be wrong.”

That is what all future rebuttals will be taken as. Now – do you really want to set yourself up that way? Well….doya…punk??

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

Actually..you can never be told because you will never learn. As for selfish..I only had to cruse this forum and read your other post to figure you out.

As for coke junkie..look no further than your own mirror..You are the classic troll. You bring nothing positive to a forum. I called you out and you dont like it. Grow up.....if it is possible.

First off.....I'm undoubtedly the ONLY one of all you idiots who've elected to counter me - who can say - I have NEVER - EVER - even tried ANY kind of drugs - pot (or whatever they call it) and when I say never - I mean never even tried any of the artificial highs. Secondly - I've never had a drop (not a drop) of anything with alcohol in it - to include "dinner-wine" (ohhh isn't that cute: dinner wine: alcoholics!!!) in my life. Thirdly: I've never ever smoked in my life - and you may take that to any bank you're presently not robbing - my health today - is far superior to yours and I can out perform you in anyway from running to climbing to lifting to having a 32 inch waist - 6 pack - 43 inch chest. So I feel its best you stand in front of your own mirror (that screams to itself every time you stand in front of it - "oh no. Not again!) as again - you've aimed your reflection at the wrong guy.

Regarding these - thought-to-be words of wisdom - actually a paragraph of bull shit - I was riding my bike along the beach this past weekend when I saw a new white Coupe with a paper tag (just purchased) on the rear. Upon pulling to the driver’s window - he rolled it down giving me the opportunity to say...Listen...I’m not sure if you're aware - but you can't park this car near the drive-in parking areas without doing severe damage to the undercarriage."

He laughed and said it was his girlfriends car - sitting beside him - (hotter than any red coals you ever saw) at which time she smiled and said..."My mother already wrecked it." Guys? Listen: I realize you're all - thought-to-be - tough guys - and geniuses and whatever else you wanted to be (yet obviously failed at). But you're fighting a losing battle with me on this. This is a MAJOR Genesis flaw in production. It would be no different than any of you actually having brains - inventing something - marketing it - and in the process of inventing it - you covertly designed a means of the buyer of the item having no choice but to return to you at a later date - to yet HAVE TO purchase something else. It's a scam. It is fraudulent schemes and practices. I'm an attorney. I don't have to hire one to tear Hyundai an entirely new one (or any of you for that matter - if I thought there was anything left in that area to tear - obviously well reamed out by fellow MEN)

The only Stupid is as stupid does - is all of you who a) elect to counter anything I say: totally fruitless. And b) Defend Hyundai on this issue. This is a horrific Hyundai mistake. If they had only put this warning in their owner’s manual - or told the salesmen to caution us - I'd have no where t go. But they didn't - therefore - I'll own them. The only stupid people here - are all of you - who have elected to go up against me - as my record in court so far - is 89 to 1 (loss).

Now please: Prove your ignorance by just having to have “the lasts word”. Because if you counter this – you will be saying to me – “You’re right: I am ignorant and I do have to have the last word and I have to argue - even though I realize I’m arguing something I know to be wrong.”

That is what all future rebuttals will be taken as. Now – do you really want to set yourself up that way? Well….doya…punk??

 

[nykerk11]

It's doubtful I'll be able to reach anyone in time with this - as it's a pretty standard thing that happens to the Genesis Coupe – and it’s not a nice thing at that. For all of you who have had this happen to your Coupe – you’ll share in this grief. For any of you with a Coupe that hasn’t become victim of this yet – BEWARE! It’s only a matter of time if you don’t heed this warning.

I’m talking of a plastic water shield that’s right under your Coupe in the front - directly behind the front – lower – painted piece - below the grill. If you were to get on the ground and feel and look up under the front – you’d see a black plastic shield that extends from left to right - all of the way across – and backwards about 15 to 30 inches. It’s curved to be higher in the front - and lower where it attaches onto whatever it attaches onto.

So what is the problem? Hyundai built this car so low – there's literally NO WAY to get the car near any of those GLOBAL cement parking space stops at the end of the parking place - without destroying your car. You know - those things that rise upwards 6 to 10 inches - and are about four feet long. Their job is to stop your cars tires from going any further. Unfortunately – they hit more than the tires on the Genesis Coupe and it will cost you $75.00 to replace – if you can do it yourself. It’ll cost $150.00 if you have Hyundai do it.

Isn’t Hyundai aware of this? Of course they are. Do they care? Not in the slightest. If they cared - they’d give you your first one free - as a lesson learned – not to get near those tire stops. After all – they are all over the world. But no: Hyundai could care less. The car is a rocket ship speed wise - and a blast to drive - and one of the finest cars I have ever owned.

BUT…mark my words – it’s just a matter of time before you forget this warning and pull too close. What happens is – the plastic quietly and nicely rides over the cement slab – leaving you unaware - until you go to back out. At that time - it will pull the shield off and there’s a good chance - destroy all kinds of other stuff close by.

How do you avoid this? Easy! Become a paranoid schizophrenic and never let this subject leave your mind - and you might just never be a victim. But just as sure as you’re reading this - there are countless others who have already been victims of it and again – Hyundai could care less.

Another way to avoid this issue it to buy the sedan.

My 2011 V8 model has front and rear sensors. As I approach the cement stops or a curb I hear fast warning beeps, then a continuous beep that I am about to hit it.

Just sayin'...

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[Martinsvi]

First off.....I'm undoubtedly the ONLY one of all you idiots who've elected to counter me - who can say - I have NEVER - EVER - even tried ANY kind of drugs - pot (or whatever they call it) and when I say never - I mean never even tried any of the artificial highs. Secondly - I've never had a drop (not a drop) of anything with alcohol in it - to include "dinner-wine" (ohhh isn't that cute: dinner wine: alcoholics!!!) in my life. Thirdly: I've never ever smoked in my life - and you may take that to any bank you're presently not robbing - my health today - is far superior to yours and I can out perform you in anyway from running to climbing to lifting to having a 32 inch waist - 6 pack - 43 inch chest. So I feel its best you stand in front of your own mirror (that screams to itself every time you stand in front of it - "oh no. Not again!) as again - you've aimed your reflection at the wrong guy.

Regarding these - thought-to-be words of wisdom - actually a paragraph of bull shit - I was riding my bike along the beach this past weekend when I saw a new white Coupe with a paper tag (just purchased) on the rear. Upon pulling to the driver’s window - he rolled it down giving me the opportunity to say...Listen...I’m not sure if you're aware - but you can't park this car near the drive-in parking areas without doing severe damage to the undercarriage."

He laughed and said it was his girlfriends car - sitting beside him - (hotter than any red coals you ever saw) at which time she smiled and said..."My mother already wrecked it." Guys? Listen: I realize you're all - thought-to-be - tough guys - and geniuses and whatever else you wanted to be (yet obviously failed at). But you're fighting a losing battle with me on this. This is a MAJOR Genesis flaw in production. It would be no different than any of you actually having brains - inventing something - marketing it - and in the process of inventing it - you covertly designed a means of the buyer of the item having no choice but to return to you at a later date - to yet HAVE TO purchase something else. It's a scam. It is fraudulent schemes and practices. I'm an attorney. I don't have to hire one to tear Hyundai and entirely new one (or any of you for that mater - if I thought there was anything left in that area to tear - obviously well reamed out by fellow MEN)

The only Stupid is s stupid does - is all of you who a) elect to counter anything I say: totally fruitless. And b) Defend Hyundai on this issue. This is a horrific Hyundai mistake. If they had only put this warning in their owner’s manual - or told the salesmen to caution us - I'd have no where t go. But they didn't - therefore - I'll own them. The only stupid people here - are all of you - who have elected to go up against me - as my record in court so far - is 89 to 1 (loss).

Now please: Prove your ignorance by just having to have “the lasts word”. Because if you counter this – you will be saying to me – “You’re right: I am ignorant and I do have to have the last word and I have to argue - even though I realize I’m arguing something I know to be wrong.” That is what all future rebuttals will be taken as. Now – do you really want to set yourself up that way? Well….doya…punk??

Never argue with and idiot...They just bring you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

I doubt you will get much more interaction on your post.

Thank you for proving your own point about yourself.

 

[nykerk11]

Sounds like an ID 10 T error.

Does this mean Ferrari, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers with low profile cars should recall all theirs as well?

Step 1 - Learn about your vehicle before you take it on the road.

Step 2 - Read your owner's manual.

Step 3 - Refer to Step 1.

 

[sarge]

Ohhhh yeah. This is a reeeeaaall difficult thing to correct.

There is no defect to correct. Every car ever made is at risk of damage if you drive it into a concrete barrier. The Genesis Coupe sits low - by design. The proper driver response is to stop the car before the nose impacts the barrier. The improper response is to blame the manufacturer for the driver slamming into the concrete.

Gee...let's see: How about an object sensor (like in the rear) under the front - aimed in such a way - it's range would only sound when going under 2 miles per hour and only go off when approaching an obstacle that standard size of those cement stops. 2012 models? Watch. This is a piece of cake to correct.

Or, as an alternative, you could simply stop running into concrete barriers. That seems to be the easiest solution to implement.

It's literally amazing to me that so many of you paid what you did for your Coupe - yet defend something like this.

Actually, I don't own a coupe. i own the sedan. That isn't relevant to the discussion, however. I have been driving long enough to know that, if there is a concrete block at the front end of the parking space, I should stop before the nose of my car hits it. Same when pulling in to a space that ends at a curb. I've done this dozens of times - but I've never blamed the manufacturer for the damage.

You're the kind of person who loves attention and has to show off in a crowd.

You haven't read enough from me to have made a reasonable assumption.

Here we have other manufactures building vehicles that PARK THEMSELVES - while Hyundai builds them to destroy themselves.

Actually, Hyundai seems to have built a car that requires exactly the same evel of driver input that more than 99% of all cars ever made require.

Tell me - do you blame the hammer maker when you smash your thumb?

 

[Lardog]

Stylus,

The problem here is that you keep refering to this as, and I quote, a "Major flaw in production". The simple fact of the matter is that it is not a flaw, it simply is a characteristic of the car. Like it or not. Calling it a flaw is like saying that a Suburban is flawed since it will get scrapped up on the top in many underground garages because it is too tall. I suppose the design of roof top boxes and bike racks are also "Flawed" then, for the same reason. Of course, most garages have warnings of this. Perhaps parking lots should also post signs at their entry, stating the minimum height a car should be in order to not hit their parking blocks?

No one is arguing that the car sits low and that it may, in fact, get damaged if proper care is not taken when parking. They are saying a driver has a certain responsibility to know the vehicle they are driving. You did make a suggestion of a measure which could legitimately reduce the risk of this occuring, with the use of proximity sensors up front, as they are used for reverse. The fact that these sensors are not there does not mean it is a flaw. It means the car will cost less than if they were there. It is simple marketing. If enough people are willing to pay for that additional expense, then manufacturers (not just Hyundai) will include it.

Good for you for wanting to share your experience in the hope of preventing others from having to go through the same thing. But to get on this board and calling out Hyundai to "fix" this, is simply assinine.

 

[Martinsvi]

Sounds like an ID 10 T error.

Does this mean Ferrari, Lamborghini, and other manufacturers with low profile cars should recall all theirs as well?

Step 1 - Learn about your vehicle before you take it on the road.

Step 2 - Read your owner's manual.

Step 3 - Refer to Step 1.

ID 10 T error is accurate.. in fact it is spot on.!!!!!!!!

 

[Stylus-R-Us]

Another way to avoid this issue it to buy the sedan.

My 2011 V8 model has front and rear sensors. As I approach the cement stops or a curb I hear fast warning beeps, then a continuous beep that I am about to hit it.

Just sayin'...

Interesting. And why is it - exactly - do you think they installed a front warning system? Obviously - Hyundai has had ENOUGH victims with their first run of 2010's - that they had no choice to correct it. Even odder - your post is the last in line as of this minute. If you were to read my comments to all of the prior frivolous arguments - you'll see where I suggested that they in fact install a sensor in the front - just like they did in the back. Am I to be credited with them doing that? Obviously not. But truth be known - it didn't take an Einstein to do the math. Every low car from 2011 on - will have that feature. MARK THOSE WORDS! This was a pitiful Hyundai mistake and they knew it and they corrected it or at least will - totally - by 2012.

 

[msitter]

I feel that Stylus must be right. The real flaw is the parking blocks, they are simply made too tall. Stylus, you have misdirected your anger unfairly at Hyundai. You really need to ride your beach cruiser down to city hall and march out in front, in protest of out of spec parking blocks. Wear a sandwich board and carry a bull horn to ensure you are noticed and taken seriously. This ought to give him something productive to do.

 

[sarge]

Interesting. And why is it - exactly - do you think they installed a front warning system? Obviously - Hyundai has had ENOUGH victims with their first run of 2010's - that they had no choice to correct it.

Except that Hyundai made no changes at all to the availability of the parking assist sensors between 2010 and 2011. It is an option, except on the V8 version of the sedan, which has no options at all. In other words, there is no connection between the potential for an inatentive driver to strike a curb and the presence of front parking sensors on the Genesis.

Even odder - your post is the last in line as of this minute. If you were to read my comments to all of the prior frivolous arguments - you'll see where I suggested that they in fact install a sensor in the front - just like they did in the back. Am I to be credited with them doing that? Obviously not. But truth be known - it didn't take an Einstein to do the math. Every low car from 2011 on - will have that feature. MARK THOSE WORDS! This was a pitiful Hyundai mistake and they knew it and they corrected it or at least will - totally - by 2012.

Again, demonstrably false. That there exists 2011 Genesis cars without front parking sensors is all that is required for you to be wrong, and such cars exist.

You are soley responsible for having failed to avoid hitting the curb. There is no design "flaw' in the nose of the Hyundai. You are incoorect on that account - and your posting style (and that of several other posters to this thread) needs modifying. It is generally bad form, and often against forum rules, to make personal attacks in your posts. Several of your posts contain personal attacks. Your message woul be better received if you would stop doing that.

 

[STREETS]

Stylus-purchase curb feelers!

 

[ImInPA]

The Porche 911's have had this same "defect" for decades. In fact, the front overhang of the 911 makes it virutally impossible to not scrape the front bumper on anything other than a very slight incline. It is amazing to me that with so many sporty/sports cars having this "defect" that the market has not created "monster truck" kits for low slung sportscars like , Ferrari, Infiniti, Nissan, Lambo's, Porche, etc. Or, at least offer them as a "ground clearence" option to customers. A 36" ground clearance would make parking carefully a thing of the past.