What cars are you guys trading/selling to switch to a g70??

[Slides]

Will be giving this one up in a few.

 

[G70manualdriver]

2013 Honda Accord Sport Manual for the G70 2.0T Manual.

 

[randian]

2015 Genesis 5.0. I’ll probably get the G70 3.3T.

 

[Ed Okin]

Having driven the 2018 Mustang GT with performance package recently, it's a lot of car for the money. Power is incredible and handling surpassed my expectations.

I think the G70 will be a very different experience with appreciably more refinement in exchange for decidedly less muscle.

A G70 will be considerably more civilized car than a Camaro or Mustang, with a much quieter exhaust and a more elegant interior. The Mustang interiors have certainly improved but still lack the details and amenities of the G70. On the flip side, the G70 is a powerful car that promises to perform well. But the Mustang GT, with 95 more horsepower (if we believe the manufacturers) is in a different league entirely.

For context, I've owned several sports cars, including a 240Z, three RX-7s (the last a twin-turbo), and a BMW Z3 with the 3.0 liter engine and handling package. My wife has had a few sports sedans, including an Acura Legend and a 3-series BMW. My last couple of cars have been Infinitis, first a 330 HP G37 with 6-peed manual and currently a 328 HP QX50. The QX50 is the first primary-drive car with an automatic, going all the way back to our first car in 1969 but all subsequent cars will likely be auto for me because it enables my wife to drive it more easily and, frankly, automatics are a lot better than they used to be.

If I decide to get a G70, I'll likely trad my wife's V6 Outback and she'd take over the QX50, which only has about 26,000 miles on it.

Whether I decide to get a G70 depends on several things, the two most important of which are, first, how much I like it when I actually drive it and second, how much they want for the car. I want something that is decidedly more fun to drive than the QX50, which is a very capable car and has good power but it's hard to forget that it's a crossover and not something with mre of a performance-oriented personality. The Infiniti G37, in its day (2009) was a coupe that had a nice sporty feel to it, with good power and handling for its segment. I want something more akin to that but updated to current standards of performance and technology. The closest thing from Infinit is the Q60 Red Sport 400 coupe, which checks a lot of boxes but is a bit outdated now. It's certainly still a fall-back (in either coupe of Q50 RS 400 sedan version) if the G70 turns out not to be as good a value as anticipated.

What sort of driving do I do? I don't race but I do drive aggressively when I can do so safely. And North Carolina still has plenty of twisty back roads that are conducive to the enjoyment of a car that is powerful and handles well. I don't have a daily commute, so living in traffic isn't a consideration (something that allowed me to consider the Mustang). So, something that doesn't feel too much like a living room is decidedly an advantage from my perspective. I much prefer a firmer ride and more responsive engine to a "comfort balanced" car. I do occasionally take long trips of several hundred miles each way and I want a car that won't punish you on those (the suspension on the '93 RX-7 twin turbo got pretty rough on the backside after a hundred miles or so) but that still feels like I'm driving it instead of it driving me.

All things considered, the G70 is potentially a choice that will suit my needs. But until I drive it and know what it will cost, I obviously can't make a final decision. And I'm not so wedded to the idea of a G70 above all other alternatives that I'd feel crushed if I felt I needed to walk away from it, either because of it's not meeting my expectations as a driver or its costing more than I think it should. Of those two deal breakers, I think the latter is the one that I'm more concerned about. I believe it is a good car, from what our Canadian friends have described. Whether it's an excellent value as a car aspiring to the luxury segment but with a thus far unproven record, remains to be seen. Part of that is also a judgment about the long-term viability of the Genesis brand in the US. If Genesis blows it with the G70 (by overpricing it, for example) I think they'll have a tough time surviving in the segment they're targeting, given the wealth of alternatives from more established and highly respected companies. I hope they get it right and remain optimistic that they will. But only time will tell at this point.

Hope these observations are useful to you as you consider your next car.

Thank you, devellis, for the very helpful post.
I have a 2011 Elantra and a 2017 Tucson, as well as previously having a 2011 Tucson and have been happy with all three.

Moving up to a Genesis is, to me, getting a more luxurious and better perforning car from the same quality car manufacturer I have trusted for the past 7 years.

 

[Ed Okin]

I have a 2017 Focus RS. The car has been a nightmare since Ford touched it for the headgasket tsb. If the lemon law claim ends in my favor I will be seriously considering the G70.

Should be as fast or faster than the RS in a straight line, still corner well for a sedan and should be miles ahead of the RS in terms of quality, comfort and tech.

The RS was fun before it had issues but after all this even the smallest defects are a painful reminder of the 3 months my vehicle spent in a shop.

Many of my friends and family swear by Hyundai vehicles and it seems they truly are among the top in terms of value and reliability. I hope this Genesis G70 upholds this reputation.

My 3 Hyundais have been practically problem free. When I get my G70 I’m keeping the very reliable 2011 Elantra.

 

[SirFrederick]

Will be giving this one up in a few.

Do you still have your S5? I'm curious on how the S5 and G70 compare if you've driven both?

 

[mikemu30]

Do you still have your S4? I'm curious on how the S4 and G70 compare if you've driven both?

Looks like an A5

 

[SirFrederick]

Looks like an A5

Oops meant so type S5. Maybe it is an A5. Just saw S5 in the name and assumed it was.

 

[Slip_Angle]

2016 Cadillac ATS AWD

 

[NLJ]

2012 Acura TL SH-AWD Tech.

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[Cowtown]

Driveway holds a '96 Japanese Export Mustang Cobra SVT I'm slowly restoring. A '16 VW GTI and the car were trading in, a '13 Santa Fe Sport FWD.

 

[Friday]

Oops meant so type S5. Maybe it is an A5. Just saw S5 in the name and assumed it was.

Should be an S5. The "S" models have the silver side mirrors.

 

[Van_Nik_75]

I traded in a 2015 BMW X1 with the 2 litre turbo 4 cylinder engine. The reason for the trade was that I was missing driving a car with much better performance and handling. The car before the X1 was a 2001 BMW M Roadster which I drove as a daily driver for almost 9 years. I really loved that car but ultimately needed more space so I bought the X1.

Previous to the G70 I had owned BMWs for 18 years but really loved the G70 when I test drove it. I was also looking at an Audi RS3 but what killed that deal was the local Audi dealership refused to allow me to test drive an RS3 unless I bought it first. I compared that experience with Genesis bringing a G70 to my house to test drive.

 

[NLJ]

I traded in a 2015 BMW X1 with the 2 litre turbo 4 cylinder engine. The reason for the trade was that I was missing driving a car with much better performance and handling. The car before the X1 was a 2001 BMW M Roadster which I drove as a daily driver for almost 9 years. I really loved that car but ultimately needed more space so I bought the X1.

Previous to the G70 I had owned BMWs for 18 years but really loved the G70 when I test drove it. I was also looking at an Audi RS3 but what killed that deal was the local Audi dealership refused to allow me to test drive an RS3 unless I bought it first. I compared that experience with Genesis bringing a G70 to my house to test drive.

They do that with the Golf R as well. Utter bullshit. Treating riced out base model cars as if they were Lamborghinis!

 

[canucklehead604]

i let go of my Infiniti G37S 6MT Sedan. bought it in 2010 after shipping it up from Baltimore to Vancouver BC. great car, and it replaced my '04 G35 6MT sedan. loved the VQ powertrains, but it was time for a change...especially once Infiniti dropped the 6MT trim.

nevermind the dopey Kumho tires that were in this pic - i ditched those almost immediately after purchasing it - this photo is from ~2010.

 

[cars2see]

i let go of my Infiniti G37S 6MT Sedan. bought it in 2010 after shipping it up from Baltimore to Vancouver BC. great car, and it replaced my '04 G35 6MT sedan. loved the VQ powertrains, but it was time for a change...especially once Infiniti dropped the 6MT trim.

nevermind the dopey Kumho tires that were in this pic - i ditched those almost immediately after purchasing it - this photo is from ~2010.

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those mountains in the back round tho

 

[Spanky61]

They do that with the Golf R as well. Utter bullshit. Treating riced out base model cars as if they were Lamborghinis!

They don't get factory demos for limited production vehicles. I was also looking a Golf R but no dealing and the University Volkswagen was no good. Yes it's crapo but they do it anyway.

I did get to drive an RS3 but I wasn't that impressed especially with the price tag. It was priced as our TTRS from two three years ago. Manual seats and just not that well trimmed out in my opinion. We owned an TTRS and loved it but Audi went up almost 10K on the price from the previous TTRS. They didn't want to deal on either so, we went for a Mercedes GLA45 AMG, then an RCF loaded. Now we have the Genesis G80, as the salesman wanted our RCF for his wife. Gave me exactly what I wanted for it.

 

[Cowtown]

I traded in a 2015 BMW X1 with the 2 litre turbo 4 cylinder engine. The reason for the trade was that I was missing driving a car with much better performance and handling. The car before the X1 was a 2001 BMW M Roadster which I drove as a daily driver for almost 9 years. I really loved that car but ultimately needed more space so I bought the X1.

Previous to the G70 I had owned BMWs for 18 years but really loved the G70 when I test drove it. I was also looking at an Audi RS3 but what killed that deal was the local Audi dealership refused to allow me to test drive an RS3 unless I bought it first. I compared that experience with Genesis bringing a G70 to my house to test drive.

And they wonder why sales drop. If they wouldn't let me test drive a car I'd just walk, I'm not going to hoon in it.

 

[Spanky61]

I know, I might walk out of the dealership myself. The only car I've bought like this was a Ford Shelby GT500. Don't think I'll be doing that again.

 

[NOS4A2]

Once, my wife once said to me...

"You are getting old so now is the time to own a fast car."

Who am I to say no and then I bought a white Focus RS. It came with 6 speed manual, 2.3L Turbo 350 HP and 350 lb. ft engine, AWD with dynamic torque vectoring. It's a blast to drive. Did I mention it has a true drift mode?

What happened then?

I spent almost two years hearing my wife and daughter complaining about the ride of my RS. My wife drives a sofa on wheels (Lincoln MKX) so the RS was like riding a donkey for her.

I will miss my RS as much as I miss my Jeep Wrangler (also despised by my wife) but they are all different cars and once my red G70 Sport 3.3T arrives in 12 hours peace shall reign again in my garage.