What have you Raced?

[Sal Collaziano]

ha wrong. You can actually do A LOT of work on a bmw with basic hand tools. regular and torx sockets and a screw driver goes a long way. The reason he thinks they are unreliable is because he was around broken ones all the time. No one comes into the service center and says the car is running fantastic thanks alot. this is a silly thread. thanks for the laughs today.

I don't think the thread is silly. It's your basic "What have you raced?" thread that's on just about every automotive forum for cars that perform well. The Genesis has over 400hp and it's a pretty impressive car - especially coming from a brand that was on nobody's radar ten years ago. BMW is well aware of what's going on at Hyundai and considers them a solid future competitor. 100%

With every generation they get closer and closer to being on par with premium luxury brands. And while Hyundai is not officially in the performance game YET - they're about to launch a performance division. It's not like it's impossible for Hyundai to build a car that surprises people. The CTS-V and ATS-V are pretty impressive cars. Maybe not on par with BMW in every aspect - but they certainly have performance down. And they certainly surprised the M3/M5 (depending on who you see the CTS-V competing with) with their second generation performance car. Believe me, you're going to see the same thing with Hyundai very soon.

 

[DRS]

I don't think the thread is silly. It's your basic "What have you raced?" thread that's on just about every automotive forum about cars that perform well. The Genesis has over 400hp and it's a pretty impressive car - especially coming from a brand that was on nobody's radar ten years ago. BMW is well aware of what's going on at Hyundai and considers them a solid future competitor. 100%

With every generation they get closer and closer to being on par with premium luxury brands. And while Hyundai is not officially in the performance game YET - they're about to launch a performance division. It's not like it's impossible for Hyundai to build a car that surprises people. The CTS-V and ATS-V are pretty impressive cars. Maybe not on par with BMW in every aspect - but they certainly have performance down. And they certainly surprised the M3/M5 (depending on who you see the CTS-V competing with) with their second generation performance car. Believe me, you're going to see the same thing with Hyundai very soon...

This is beneath you... Ban them, not try to connect with them.... Beyond hope to connect with this bunch. Crush them like the Soviet Union.

 

[I pity the fool]

The base BMW may be 12K more but by the time you add in the options to the BMW that come stock on the base Genesis, your up a whole lot more.

So a smaller 335 can beat the larger Genesis to 60 but not in the 1/4 mile? Why do you say the Genesis competes with the 335 which is a smaller car? Isn't the Genesis more the size of the 5 series?

As for the reliability, my cousin worked for a major BMW dealership. Even he says they seem to spend more time in the shop than on the road. And to do ANY work on them, you need specialized tools.

If the Genesis is so bad on reliability, how come the Genesis won the JD power award for reliability the first time it was eligible (2012)? Don't see any BMW's on that list. http://autos.jdpower.com/content/st...ehicle-dependability-study-results.htm?page=2

The link you posted just states that for 2015, there are more issues with Bluetooth and voice recognition. That's not reliability to me.

Well this whole conversation was about the "race" between the M4, and the Genesis correct? I was just showing proof that there's no way that the Genesis competes/could beat the M4 by showing how the Genesis can barely beat the 335, S4, and the C400. Also it barely beats those cars I mentioned, and even gets beaten at times. Why? It has a 5.0 V8, and those other cars have V6's.

P.S you stated " That we paid probably half of what you did for a car that is in the same class as yours?". Clearly you stated here that in your opinion the Genesis is in the same class as the M3. So I gave you comparisons to cars which are similar to the Genesis performance wise.

German cars have been known to have electronic issues including bluetooth etc in the past. Now that the Hyundais are ranked low due stuff like that it's not considered reliability? That's just hilarious. Also sure Hyundais were more reliable in 2012, but now they're not. https://www.cars.com/articles/2012/02/jd-power-releases-2012-dependability-study/

As mentioned, the Genesis vs M4 race story was just a story about a particular race - or whatever it was. In reality the Genesis is a midsize car that's actually just about fullsize. It's a BIG midsize car. So it doesn't really compete with cars like the 3-Series, C-Class and A4, etcetera. It should be getting matched up with cars it's own size - which would be the 5-Series, E-Class, A6, etcetera. Heavier cars...

Alrighty then I was just being on subject since he stated " That we paid probably half of what you did for a car that is in the same class as yours?". Either way. Audi A6 barely gets beaten by the Genesis. Audi S6 easily beats the Genesis. Mercedes E550 easily beats it. E63 blows it away. BMW 550 easily beats it. M5 well you know what'll happen.

Guys. Some of you are signing on and running through the same exact points that your friends stated yesterday. You're late to the party. Nobody here believes the Genesis is as fast as an M4.

DRS sure does.

With all due respect... You trying the triangulation "peacemaker" approach with your multiple comments, kinda has you show up as a submissive... If this were the Tesla forum, or other places, the BMW and Mercedes trolls would be banned by now. I appreciate your reluctance to do this... However, being a submissive is not the place to be in that crowd.

In other forums you'd have been banned by now also. Calling others names? Degrading brands and others? Even being a troll in your own way? Yup you'd be definitely banned.

I don't think the thread is silly. It's your basic "What have you raced?" thread that's on just about every automotive forum for cars that perform well. The Genesis has over 400hp and it's a pretty impressive car - especially coming from a brand that was on nobody's radar ten years ago. BMW is well aware of what's going on at Hyundai and considers them a solid future competitor. 100%

With every generation they get closer and closer to being on par with premium luxury brands. And while Hyundai is not officially in the performance game YET - they're about to launch a performance division. It's not like it's impossible for Hyundai to build a car that surprises people. The CTS-V and ATS-V are pretty impressive cars. Maybe not on par with BMW in every aspect - but they certainly have performance down. And they certainly surprised the M3/M5 (depending on who you see the CTS-V competing with) with their second generation performance car. Believe me, you're going to see the same thing with Hyundai very soon.

Good to see there's one guy replying to us which is logical and isn't full of himself or full of excuses and bs. You're at least giving a good impression about Hyundai owners, unlike DRS which makes them look quite foolish and immature. Either way I made my point on all of this, and those guys can either deny it or finally come to terms with the facts. Don't really care since the truth is well known. Also I'll be checking out the forum from time to time now to see what jolly good laughs I can get from DRS posts. Maybe he'll even say that he beat a GTR, or maybe a Laferrari lol.

 

[cbruesch]

Wow - I am really surprised to see how this thread has progressed. Not sure why a BMW owner would want to post, much less troll a Hyundai forum. I wouldn't visit the Bimmerforum or e46fanatics and berate the members based on my opinions of their comments - seems like a waste of time and ultimately, a ploy to incite an argument or play a mean spirited e-thug role. I used to do car shows with Europrojektz, Hokori, Techna, ect - I worked at EF1 Motorsports in Signal Hill, and I have a ton of good friends I would show with, like Ryan C. and his LS1 M3 OR his crazy widebody 328. My point is - the responses here from BMW owners are not what I would have expected from a community that in general, prides itself on some semblance of humility in light of their superior vehicles. If you see a post on this forum that doesn't jive with your beliefs or experiences, simply smile and move on. This is just my opinion - I am definitely not trying to start another flame war. As car enthusiasts, I would assume we can discuss our differences without all the negativity. The responses didn't make me mad - rather I just got depressed lol.

Oh - and I am pretty sure the Hyundai in this video is NOT a 5.0 (more like a 3.8). I could be wrong, but I am sure other Hyundai owners can validate for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZABh5CG8KE

Have a good day folks - BMW's are amazing machines. So is the Genesis.

 

[filetitan]

Wow - I am really surprised to see how this thread has progressed. Not sure why a BMW owner would want to post, much less troll a Hyundai forum. I wouldn't visit the Bimmerforum or e46fanatics and berate the members based on my opinions of their comments - seems like a waste of time and ultimately, a ploy to incite an argument or play a mean spirited e-thug role. I used to do car shows with Europrojektz, Hokori, Techna, ect - I worked at EF1 Motorsports in Signal Hill, and I have a ton of good friends I would show with, like Ryan C. and his LS1 M3 OR his crazy widebody 328. My point is - the responses here from BMW owners are not what I would have expected from a community that in general, prides itself on some semblance of humility in light of their superior vehicles. If you see a post on this forum that doesn't jive with your beliefs or experiences, simply smile and move on. This is just my opinion - I am definitely not trying to start another flame war. As car enthusiasts, I would assume we can discuss our differences without all the negativity. The responses didn't make me mad - rather I just got depressed lol.

Oh - and I am pretty sure the Hyundai in this video is NOT a 5.0 (more like a 3.8). I could be wrong, but I am sure other Hyundai owners can validate for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZABh5CG8KE

Have a good day folks - BMW's are amazing machines. So is the Genesis.

Ah you have a good point. Time for to take my leave.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

pitty the fool,
I just figured you were comparing them as being in the same class, hence my statement, as that's where a lot of uneducated people put them, having never seen or been in one.

As for the Bluetooth/voice stuff, yes I don't really count that as reliability as much as some teckno geek would. reliability to me is does the mechanical stuff work likes it's supposed to and last. I believe it was Motor Trend who took a new then '09 Genesis out, decided that since it had a 100K mile warranty on it, they would test it out. So they put 100K miles on it in the year they had it. Total cost of ownership was less than a brake job on a comparable MB. No warranty issue at all. That is reliability to me.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

This discussion thread is going to be cleaned out in a little while. As per the rules, constructive criticism is fine. Friendly disagreements are fine. However, personal insults are not. Nobody is talking about anybody's friend, mother or loved one here. Therefor it should be be taken so personally. We're talking about cars. I know discussions like this can become heated but this one's gone overboard. This is a friendly community and this discussion is no longer friendly. Expect a cleanup shortly.

edit: Done. For now. Posts that got personal have been soft deleted so that I can reference them later if need be. I left whatever I felt was at least somewhat reasonable and did not contain personal attacks. If I missed anything, let me know. Or if I went overboard, let me know. Differences in/of opinion are certainly allowed here. So please keep that in mind.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Well class is over for today. Time to get in my slow Genesis tricycle and head home, hiding from the M4's along the way.

To our new BMW friends, enjoy the weekend.

To all, remember what this holiday weekend is about. Be thankful of their sacrifices so that we can enjoy our freedoms.

To my Brothers and Sisters in Arms still with us. Thanks for serving.

 

[dareckibmw]

WoW! for the moment, I felt like I'm still reading the BimmerForums!

"Experts everywhere!"

 

[DRS]

Well this whole conversation was about the "race" between the M4, and the Genesis correct? I was just showing proof that there's no way that the Genesis competes/could beat the M4 by showing how the Genesis can barely beat the 335, S4, and the C400. Also it barely beats those cars I mentioned, and even gets beaten at times. Why? It has a 5.0 V8, and those other cars have V6's.

P.S you stated " That we paid probably half of what you did for a car that is in the same class as yours?". Clearly you stated here that in your opinion the Genesis is in the same class as the M3. So I gave you comparisons to cars which are similar to the Genesis performance wise.

German cars have been known to have electronic issues including bluetooth etc in the past. Now that the Hyundais are ranked low due stuff like that it's not considered reliability? That's just hilarious. Also sure Hyundais were more reliable in 2012, but now they're not. https://www.cars.com/articles/2012/02/jd-power-releases-2012-dependability-study/




Alrighty then I was just being on subject since he stated " That we paid probably half of what you did for a car that is in the same class as yours?". Either way. Audi A6 barely gets beaten by the Genesis. Audi S6 easily beats the Genesis. Mercedes E550 easily beats it. E63 blows it away. BMW 550 easily beats it. M5 well you know what'll happen.




DRS sure does.



In other forums you'd have been banned by now also. Calling others names? Degrading brands and others? Even being a troll in your own way? Yup you'd be definitely banned.



Good to see there's one guy replying to us which is logical and isn't full of himself or full of excuses and bs. You're at least giving a good impression about Hyundai owners, unlike DRS which makes them look quite foolish and immature. Either way I made my point on all of this, and those guys can either deny it or finally come to terms with the facts. Don't really care since the truth is well known. Also I'll be checking out the forum from time to time now to see what jolly good laughs I can get from DRS posts. Maybe he'll even say that he beat a GTR, or maybe a Laferrari lol.

What I posted was fact... Period. Am I saying it is the way it will be every again? Not likely. As I stated many times, I was shocked or surprised. Not making a claim the Genny is faster than any M4.. You are a liar, and twister of words. Or, you are some kind of adult with early life problems.. If one looks back in the threads, you and your urban thug troll team were the ones coming in here calling names.. I am just reflecting back to you your chaos with some points of our own..

I do not get kicked out of forums, and I do not lurk around the German brands forum. Not worth the time. Not interested. The only gang troll attackers are you and your urban legends. You will be done with your multiple drive around the block drive by attacks, never learning a thing about life. If you would listen, take the pasting in here, you might learn how to be a decent humble person...

Time for you to quit circling the block and move on.

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[DRS]

Well class is over for today. Time to get in my slow Genesis tricycle and head home, hiding from the M4's along the way.

To our new BMW friends, enjoy the weekend.

To all, remember what this holiday weekend is about. Be thankful of their sacrifices so that we can enjoy our freedoms.

To my Brothers and Sisters in Arms still with us. Thanks for serving.

They will not understand a word you said above.... Too bad, really..

 

[DRS]

This discussion thread is going to be cleaned out in a little while. As per the rules, constructive criticism is fine. Friendly disagreements are fine. However, personal insults are not. Nobody is talking about anybody's friend, mother or loved one here. Therefor it should be be taken so personally. We're talking about cars. I know discussions like this can become heated but this one's gone overboard. This is a friendly community and this discussion is no longer friendly. Expect a cleanup shortly.

edit: Done. For now. Posts that got personal have been soft deleted so that I can reference them later if need be. I left whatever I felt was at least somewhat reasonable and did not contain personal attacks. If I missed anything, let me know. Or if I went overboard, let me know. Differences in/of opinion are certainly allowed here. So please keep that in mind.

You triangulate the post and delete mine too? "Can't we all just get along".. If you remember that famous quote.just went back and did a quick look at the threads... Nice work.. Left plenty up for review. Thanks.

 

[DRS]

Wow - I am really surprised to see how this thread has progressed. Not sure why a BMW owner would want to post, much less troll a Hyundai forum. I wouldn't visit the Bimmerforum or e46fanatics and berate the members based on my opinions of their comments - seems like a waste of time and ultimately, a ploy to incite an argument or play a mean spirited e-thug role. I used to do car shows with Europrojektz, Hokori, Techna, ect - I worked at EF1 Motorsports in Signal Hill, and I have a ton of good friends I would show with, like Ryan C. and his LS1 M3 OR his crazy widebody 328. My point is - the responses here from BMW owners are not what I would have expected from a community that in general, prides itself on some semblance of humility in light of their superior vehicles. If you see a post on this forum that doesn't jive with your beliefs or experiences, simply smile and move on. This is just my opinion - I am definitely not trying to start another flame war. As car enthusiasts, I would assume we can discuss our differences without all the negativity. The responses didn't make me mad - rather I just got depressed lol.

Oh - and I am pretty sure the Hyundai in this video is NOT a 5.0 (more like a 3.8). I could be wrong, but I am sure other Hyundai owners can validate for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZABh5CG8KE

Have a good day folks - BMW's are amazing machines. So is the Genesis.

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Amen... You broke the code.. Seems like they could not handle retorts to their original inflaming drive by attacks.

 

[F80 M3 Hyundai killer]

http://youtu.be/QkD9m2MkjHw Genny benny zone the winner lol have a great weekend everyone it was fun messing around here enjoy the cars and drive carefully.

 

[I pity the fool]

What I posted was fact... Period. Am I saying it is the way it will be every again? Not likely. As I stated many times, I was shocked or surprised. Not making a claim the Genny is faster than any M4.. You are a liar, and twister of words. Or, you are some kind of adult with early life problems.. If one looks back in the threads, you and your urban thug troll team were the ones coming in here calling names.. I am just reflecting back to you your chaos with some points of our own..

I do not get kicked out of forums, and I do not lurk around the German brands forum. Not worth the time. Not interested. The only gang troll attackers are you and your urban legends. You will be done with your multiple drive around the block drive by attacks, never learning a thing about life. If you would listen, take the pasting in here, you might learn how to be a decent humble person...

Time for you to quit circling the block and move on.

LOL. All I have to say is. Damn. You're truly full of yourself and full of s**t. Saying I'm the liar, manipulator and twister of words when you clearly twisted and manipulated my words plenty of times trying to make it seem like i disdain the Genesis, when I truly think it isn't a bad car, but like I said plenty of times it's not a car I'm currently interested in. Plus when it came to the name calling etc you're the one which started it towards me haha. I didn't call you any names etc, just said that some of the stuff you're saying is foolish since you obviously didn't know anything about it or it was bs.

Me and my urban thug troll team? Sorry but I don't even know those guys. Either way urban thug troll team. Damn. That's one awesome name you came up with Mr mature decent humble person.

The bs you posted isn't fact. Saying manufacturers tune, upgrade etc their cars when they give them to reviewers just to get better reviews. Sounds like a complete bs excuse you came up with.

'm surprised you don't get kicked out of forums. You have a obvious trolling side in you which has been clearly seen through your recent posts, and the things you said about the M4.

"You will be done with your multiple drive around the block drive by attacks, never learning a thing about life. If you would listen, take the pasting in here, you might learn how to be a decent humble person... " First you see your Genesis beat a M4 in a race (The M4 was either not trying to race you, or it's a bs story for attention), and now you're seeing drive by's? You honestly need to lay off the drugs.

Also yes! I want to become a decent humble person just like you! Boy I was right about getting damn good laughs out of the stuff you post.

Anyways I give up on you. Like I said you're too full of yourself and too full of s**t to have anything get through to you. Won't be posting on here anymore, but I'll be sure to check up on the forum to get some good laughs from your posts.

Hope everyone stays safe, and drives carefully, plus don't forget to enjoy your cars!

 

[DRS]

LOL. All I have to say is. Damn. You're truly full of yourself and full of s**t. Saying I'm the liar, manipulator and twister of words when you clearly twisted and manipulated my words plenty of times trying to make it seem like i disdain the Genesis, when I truly think it isn't a bad car, but like I said plenty of times it's not a car I'm currently interested in. Plus when it came to the name calling etc you're the one which started it towards me haha. I didn't call you any names etc, just said that some of the stuff you're saying is foolish since you obviously didn't know anything about it or it was bs.

Me and my urban thug troll team? Sorry but I don't even know those guys. Either way urban thug troll team. Damn. That's one awesome name you came up with Mr mature decent humble person.

The bs you posted isn't fact. Saying manufacturers tune, upgrade etc their cars when they give them to reviewers just to get better reviews. Sounds like a complete bs excuse you came up with.

'm surprised you don't get kicked out of forums. You have a obvious trolling side in you which has been clearly seen through your recent posts, and the things you said about the M4.

"You will be done with your multiple drive around the block drive by attacks, never learning a thing about life. If you would listen, take the pasting in here, you might learn how to be a decent humble person... " First you see your Genesis beat a M4 in a race (The M4 was either not trying to race you, or it's a bs story for attention), and now you're seeing drive by's? You honestly need to lay off the drugs.

Also yes! I want to become a decent humble person just like you! Boy I was right about getting damn good laughs out of the stuff you post.

Anyways I give up on you. Like I said you're too full of yourself and too full of s**t to have anything get through to you. Won't be posting on here anymore, but I'll be sure to check up on the forum to get some good laughs from your posts.

Hope everyone stays safe, and drives carefully, plus don't forget to enjoy your cars!

Who was the one who dropped in here and first thing out of your open mouth was trash talk on phallic references?.. You, sir.. And you went down hill from there. I was having fun at this.. You were not. You were deadly serious about your emotions and your drive by attack posts. You must not be used to someone giving you a pasting back. Tough..

 

[svensk]

Wow - I am really surprised to see how this thread has progressed. Not sure why a BMW owner would want to post, much less troll a Hyundai forum. I wouldn't visit the Bimmerforum or e46fanatics and berate the members based on my opinions of their comments - seems like a waste of time and ultimately, a ploy to incite an argument or play a mean spirited e-thug role. I used to do car shows with Europrojektz, Hokori, Techna, ect - I worked at EF1 Motorsports in Signal Hill, and I have a ton of good friends I would show with, like Ryan C. and his LS1 M3 OR his crazy widebody 328. My point is - the responses here from BMW owners are not what I would have expected from a community that in general, prides itself on some semblance of humility in light of their superior vehicles. If you see a post on this forum that doesn't jive with your beliefs or experiences, simply smile and move on. This is just my opinion - I am definitely not trying to start another flame war. As car enthusiasts, I would assume we can discuss our differences without all the negativity. The responses didn't make me mad - rather I just got depressed lol.

Oh - and I am pretty sure the Hyundai in this video is NOT a 5.0 (more like a 3.8). I could be wrong, but I am sure other Hyundai owners can validate for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PZABh5CG8KE

Have a good day folks - BMW's are amazing machines. So is the Genesis.

Clearly a V6 from the wheels. Not bad for only 330HP against the much lighter G37X.

 

[DRS]

This link is funny. These insecure stalkers started a thread about the Genny "who have you raced" post on their forum? Geez.. These guys wimpy trust fund babies or something? Totally weird with the obsession of the "Who have you raced post". Looks like a bunch of them are stalkers, and/or have time to create disdain that Hyundai is way beneath them. They twist, turn and make up things that are injected..

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1129629

Back to reality.. Next example of racing fun, please..

 

[DRS]

Clearly a V6 from the wheels. Not bad for only 330HP against the much lighter G37X.

Agreed..

 

[F80 M3 Hyundai killer]

This link is funny. These insecure stalkers started a thread about the Genny "who have you raced" post on their forum? Geez.. These guys wimpy trust fund babies or something? Totally weird with the obsession of the "Who have you raced post". Looks like a bunch of them are stalkers, and/or have time to create disdain that Hyundai is way beneath them. They twist, turn and make up things that are injected..

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1129629

Back to reality.. Next example of racing fun, please..

Since you put it this way yes you are beneath me and I only say it cause your intelligent level must be low since a trust fund baby would buy a much more expensive car than an M3 or M5. Now go tell your boy friend how badly you beat an M3 I mean 328 on the highway lol. Now don't got breaking your computer or Hyundai being all pissed and all 😜 your too easy to pick on.