What things don't you like in the G70?

[SlickRic 2.0]

SlickRic 2.0 this link below should help:

I’m aware of these features but I just thought it was a little funny that the mirrors fold in as the key fob leaves the proximity of the car but it doesn’t contactless lock the car.

 

[exbimmer]

I’m aware of these features but I just thought it was a little funny that the mirrors fold in as the key fob leaves the proximity of the car but it doesn’t contactless lock the car.

You can lock/start/unlock the car using your phone on the app.

 

[wpscully]

I don't understand why the 2022 G70 Genesis automatic transmission does not use the PRNDL (Park, Reverse, Neutral, Drive, Low) shift lever layout.

My "muscle-memory" wants to push the shift lever "full up" (towards Reverse), where Park would be in the vast landscape of vehicles. Then, thinking I was in Park, release the brake pedal. Oops... The car rolls backwards. In my humble opinion, it's an accident waiting to happen. I don't perceive any practical or luxurious benefit to the Genesis non-PRNDL layout. I think the Kia Stinger chooses to use PRNDL,

Imagine, if change for the sake of change, led to the decision to "push the lever forward to move the car forward and pull is back to move the car in reverse." At first blush that seems very intuitive, doesn't it? Why move Park to a button when the shift lever and decades of law are already there?

I'm curious to find out how long it will take me to un-learn nearly fifty years of rowing an automatic tranny shifter. One thing in my favor is that I'm coming from a manual transmission, so I already have to "think hard" to keep my hands away from that darn lever. ;-)

Fun fact: Another car which used a unique approach to implementing the shifting of an automatic transmission was the Ford Edsel. The transmission's control was implemented as a ring of buttons in the central disk of the steering wheel, where today we find the airbag/horn. However Ford did use a PRNDL push-button pattern. Anecdotally, drivers would go for the horn and accidentally shift the transmission.

There's some interesting discussion of getting rid of PRNDL, dating back to 1998. See: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1998-06-04/pdf/98-14832.pdf The link discusses, as early as 1998, BMW asking that the rule be revoked or revised as they had "been exploring the possibility of producing vehicles with electronically-controlled transmissions that do not use the conventional shift lever, but instead could employ shift mechanisms such as a rotary switch, keypad, touch screen, joystick, voice activation, or some other method." BMW appears to have withdrawn the request to revise "PRNDL". See: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/FR-1999-11-15/pdf/99-29684.pdf The motor vehicle safety standard "102", effective Jan 1, 1968 was last revised (as best I can tell) in 2011. See: https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/CFR-2011-title49-vol6/pdf/CFR-2011-title49-vol6-sec571-102.pdf

 

[Husky]

Yes, I agree with you regarding the choice of having a Park button. Seems odd, and you do have to retrain your muscle memory. I've unintentionally put it in reverse a number of times.
This topic has been covered before, of course with many people arguing it's just fine.

 

[EdP]

Yes, I agree with you regarding the choice of having a Park button. Seems odd, and you do have to retrain your muscle memory. I've unintentionally put it in reverse a number of times.
This topic has been covered before, of course with many people arguing it's just fine.

There was confusion when they switched away from PNDLR too. Remember that?

Some manual floor shifters had reverse in different positions. Some are forward, others backward. Some to the right, some to the left.

After a couple of days the button comes natural too.

 

[wpscully]

There was confusion when they switched away from PNDLR too. Remember that?

Some manual floor shifters had reverse in different positions. Some are forward, others backward. Some to the right, some to the left.

After a couple of days the button comes natural too.

As luck would have it I'm not quite old enough to have driven a car with one of the many vendor-specific varied solutions to automatic transmission shift lever pattern.

I think to myself, "Would I let anyone drive the car without first making very very very sure they understood how the Genesis shifter works?" I think the answer is no. It would be foolish for me to assume a non-Genesis driver would naturally and automatically see, understand the intend of, and properly use the "P button".

 

[joegr]

As luck would have it I'm not quite old enough to have driven a car with one of the many vendor-specific varied solutions to automatic transmission shift lever pattern.

I think to myself, "Would I let anyone drive the car without first making very very very sure they understood how the Genesis shifter works?" I think the answer is no. It would be foolish for me to assume a non-Genesis driver would naturally and automatically see, understand the intend of, and properly use the "P button".

Personally, I would rather have a normal shifter too. Still, I understand why it has changed, because of the way that control of the transmission has changed. Anyway, transmission shifters with a "P" button are not as rare, in my experience, as you seem to think they are. If this person you would loan your car to has driven a few other recent vintage cars, it probably will not be nearly as odd to them as you are thinking it will be.

 

[EdP]

Personally, I would rather have a normal shifter too. Still, I understand why it has changed, because of the way that control of the transmission has changed. Anyway, transmission shifters with a "P" button are not as rare, in my experience, as you seem to think they are. If this person you would loan your car to has driven a few other recent vintage cars, it probably will not be nearly as odd to them as you are thinking it will be.

It certainly is not a new idea

1958 Edsel Touchshift

The Edsel Teletouch center pod was fixed and proved reliable because it did not rotate with the wheel and put stress on wiring components. While a standard gear selector was available as a reduced-cost option for the automatic transmission on Edsel Ranger, Pacer and station wagon models, Corsair and

www.classiccarstodayonline.com

 

[Andyj]

My mom had a 58 Edsel with the push button shifter in the middle of the steering wheel. Coolest car (tank) ever. You could fit 6 grocery bags on the rear floor between each front and rear seats.

My uncle once parked it in our inclined driveway without putting it in park or putting the parking brake on. A few minutes later we hear a big boom. The Edsel rolled backwards and took out the neighbor's garage. Barely a scratch on the car rear bumper.

 

[Aquineas]

Two years and 27,000 miles in, I'd add to my original list:

1. (Really) crappy OEM brake pads that are guaranteed to leave deposits on the rotors.
2. Genesis USA cheaping out and putting incandescent lights in the rear
3. Overly conservative engine tuning
4. MPG

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[mazirap64]

1. Creaking from the infotainment screen
2. Limited space for passengers (AWD has a big 'bump' in the passenger seat that takes up a lot more space than I initially thought, constricting leg space even more)
3. MPG (On the freeway is pretty good, but in the city its really bad! Although I must admit I knew this coming into this vehicle, but still sucks to deal with such terrible MPG around town...)

 

[StephanBrisson]

As a Canadian driver (Montreal), being unable to lift the wipers arms to de-ice is very annoying. I know we can put the wipers in maintenance mode when you need to change them but it's not something you can do in the winter.

Also, being unable to start the heating seats with the remote start is also annoying (I have a 2019). I think it's been corrected in the newer models.

 

[Pyrosaxplayer]

So I only have had my 2022 G70 3.3t SP for a few days, because of that, I don't have much to point out

However, I do hate how CRAMMED everything is in the engine bay.

I plan on upgrading my car audio but the uptick in wattage (3,000 watts+) requires upgrade charging systems (new alt and battery).

The alt is in a tight low spot and also not much room to fabricate a mount point for a 2nd alternator and get the belt to flow through the bay.

Small gripe, but I'm sure I can figure something out

 

[Husky]

It's a pretty typical engine bay for a modern car with a 6 cylinder.
Sounds like you'll be voiding your warranty pretty soon. Adding a second alternator and battery? Yikes.

 

[Pyrosaxplayer]

It's a pretty typical engine bay for a modern car with a 6 cylinder.
Sounds like you'll be voiding your warranty pretty soon. Adding a second alternator and battery? Yikes.

My previous was a 2007 v6 Ford mustang I got in 09 lol that engine bay had some room

If only Car Makers offered Alternator upgrades instead of cargo mats and door sills lol

 

[Husky]

I don't imagine that the Mustang had two turbos and an intercooler. They take up a lot of space.

 

[Pyrosaxplayer]

I don't imagine that the Mustang had two turbos and an intercooler. They take up a lot of space.

I'll give you that! haha

 

[7x62 G0D]

Hold the Adaptive Cruise Control Distance button for a few seconds to disable Adaptive (Smart) mode. It will say "Cruise Control" instead of "Smart Cruise Control".

No way I never knew that my genesis didn’t come with the manual unfortunately.

 

[Husky]

After recently driving in lots of busy highway traffic in a rented Charger that didn't have adaptive cruise (or a bunch of other stuff), I have a new appreciation for our Adaptive Cruise.

 

[Aquineas]

Okay I want to add one petty item to my list. There is this little coat-hanger peg thing or something that's on the pillar between the driver's window and the backseat window on the same side as the driver (it could be on the passenger side too; I never bothered to look). When I'm doing a quick look behind me over my left shoulder to check for traffic, that peg shows up and for a brief instant can appear like a car in your blind spot.