What's the difference between Genesis & Equus?

[NOLa]

Absolutely the Genny would win in a race vs. the Equus...but after I catch up you'd be asking to borrow some of my Grey Poupon.

NOLa






(You know I'm kidding)

 

[Gurkha]

but after i catch up you'd be asking to borrow some of my grey poupon.

lol!

 

[MichaelOne]

Hmmm looks like my thesis of comparing Genny 3.8 to Lexy 350 was proven to be wrong again :O(
Ouch !

Nope, I wasn't challenging you on that point. What I was disputing was your suggestion that Genesis 3.8 and Sonata are somehow equivalent. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

 

[Jon@VB]

Absolutely the Genny would win in a race vs. the Equus...but after I catch up you'd be asking to borrow some of my Grey Poupon.

NOLa


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Sorry NOla,
I only use ketchup ^^

 

[Jon@VB]

Nope, I wasn't challenging you on that point. What I was disputing was your suggestion that Genesis 3.8 and Sonata are somehow equivalent. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that.

Well....

All I'm saying is this ....

I feel there are more difference in Genny 3.8 and 4.6 than
Sonata and Genny 3.8.

That's just my humble opinion...
That's all I'm gonna say...

 

[BacktoHyundaibychoice]

Well....

All I'm saying is this ....

I feel there are more difference in Genny 3.8 and 4.6 than
Sonata and Genny 3.8.

That's just my humble opinion...
That's all I'm gonna say...

I agree.. Once you get past 4 versus 6 cylinders, FWD versus RWD, a sound system that blows the competition away, and finally the reality that one is competing against Camry, Accord, and Altima.

Other than that, no difference at all.

 

[Jon@VB]

Anyone here changed H logo with a Wing Emblem?

My daughter gave me wing emblems as a Christmas gift,
but they are still sitting in my drawer...
.
The Wing emblems are not going to give me any better performance....
so I've been procrastinating...

If anyone changed the emblem,
how hard was it to change?
and was it worth the trouble?

 

[Gurkha]

If anyone changed the emblem,
how hard was it to change?
and was it worth the trouble?

Lots of info here. Do a search. There is also a step by step youtube video on the process.
Whether it's worth the trouble is personal taste I suppose.

 

[nearwater]

After a side-by-side comparison between the Equus Signature and my 4.6 Tech Genesis, I think the extra $$ for the Equus is reasonable.
Although they share the same platform, little details and overall build quality is superior, hands down.

I liked the power reclining rear seats(even on the Signature model), and the added seat bottom adjustment for the driver's seat was a huge plus for me, as I've always felt that the seat bottom on my Genesis is a little short.
I preferred the interior of the Equus much better, and with the laminated glass all around(vs the Genesis using them on the front half of the car) and added insulation material, it's a much quieter car.

The refinement of the air suspension was better too.
Even the heavy 'thump' when closing the door felt good compared to the cheap 'clap' of the Genesis.

Me, personally, I think the Equus is worth the money as much as the Genesis is.

Dan

 

[tonygxp]

After a side-by-side comparison between the Equus Signature and my 4.6 Tech Genesis, I think the extra $$ for the Equus is reasonable.
Although they share the same platform, little details and overall build quality is superior, hands down.

I liked the power reclining rear seats(even on the Signature model), and the added seat bottom adjustment for the driver's seat was a huge plus for me, as I've always felt that the seat bottom on my Genesis is a little short.
I preferred the interior of the Equus much better, and with the laminated glass all around(vs the Genesis using them on the front half of the car) and added insulation material, it's a much quieter car.

The refinement of the air suspension was better too.
Even the heavy 'thump' when closing the door felt good compared to the cheap 'clap' of the Genesis.Me, personally, I think the Equus is worth the money as much as the Genesis is.

Dan

i must have been driving some real pos then lol. i think the genesis doors close nice, solid lol

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[JoeDaytona]

I,ve driven large and small.....there both great. However I like the cozy feeling in the genny. The equus is big and more luxurious..but I want to feel the road and be closer to the action if you know what I mean.
I,m in a sporty mood this time around...next time maybe the boat/float....
As for the ride...it's part of the experience to feel the road...drove V8.... today....sweet! .......now 2011 or 2012.....have to visit that topic on the forum...
Joe

 

[MHT]

To answer the question I guess the only difference I see between the Genesis & Equus is the price, length, appearance and the Equus has a few more features of which some will show up on the 2012 Genesis. Both the Genesis and Equus are nice cars and are great alternative to what I see as other overpriced Luxury Performance cars.
My test drive of the Equus was only confirmation that the Genesis 4.6 was all I really needed and the 2012 Genesis 4.6 just sealed the deal for me staying with the Genesis.

 

[Jon@VB]

The refinement of the air suspension was better too.
Even the heavy 'thump' when closing the door felt good compared to the cheap 'clap' of the Genesis.

Me, personally, I think the Equus is worth the money as much as the Genesis is.

Dan

"Cheap clap of the Genensis"

Ha ha..that was a good one... thanks for the good laugh (in a good way of course..)

Good to know someone feels Equus's pricey tag is actually worth it.

 

[Jon@VB]

I,ve driven large and small.....there both great. However I like the cozy feeling in the genny. The equus is big and more luxurious..but I want to feel the road and be closer to the action if you know what I mean.
I,m in a sporty mood this time around...next time maybe the boat/float....
As for the ride...it's part of the experience to feel the road...drove V8.... today....sweet! .......now 2011 or 2012.....have to visit that topic on the forum...
Joe

I know exactly what you mean...

Guess that's why poeple drive Porche... that closer feel to the road (personally Porche gives me TOO close to the road feeling...it hurts my butt)

and Equus is too soft

Ahhhhhh yes, Genny is just the right..not too hard, not too soft...

Papa bear

 

[Jon@VB]

To answer the question I guess the only difference I see between the Genesis & Equus is the price, length, appearance and the Equus has a few more features of which some will show up on the 2012 Genesis. Both the Genesis and Equus are nice cars and are great alternative to what I see as other overpriced Luxury Performance cars.
My test drive of the Equus was only confirmation that the Genesis 4.6 was all I really needed and the 2012 Genesis 4.6 just sealed the deal for me staying with the Genesis.

Have you driven 2009 Genesis 4.6?
2012 model is that much different?

 

[MHT]

Have you driven 2009 Genesis 4.6?
2012 model is that much different?

I have driven the 2009 4.6 and 3.8 Genesis and own a 2010 Genesis 4.6 . With the upgraded suspension of the 2010 IMO it does ride better than the 2009.
With the changes to the Suspension of the 2012 Genesis 4.6 I can only assume that the ride will be even better for those who prefer a little less firmer ride. I have Michelin Energy Saver A/S on my Genesis 4.6 and I am very happy with the ride I get over the Dunlop's, Continental Extreme DWS,and Michelin Pilot Sport Plus A/S I had on my car. The 2012 Genesis 4.6 will have some added nice features.

 

[binarypulsar]

Sonata, Genesis and Equus are all great cars.

Do your homework and budget yourself.

You should buy the car that has the features you want at the price you can afford.

We shouldn't be discouraging people from buying one over the over based on our personal opinion.

If you can afford it and it has the features you want you should buy it.

Don't kid yourself that the Genesis is a better buy than the Sonata or Equus.

They are all good buys.

We should feel fortunate that we have this choice.

 

[YEH]

Nowadays, there's not much diff. btwn the BMW 5 and 7 Series.

2011 BMW 528i: I Don't Like This Car, Either

"'This might be the perfect car,' exclaimed one of our road test editors after putting the BMW 550i through its paces at our test track. 'It's the perfect size, looks great, it's fast, it handles. Does everything well.' You could throw in supremely comfortable, quiet on the highway, luxuriously appointed and beautifully built. We would never go so far as to declare it 'the perfect car' — there are always going to be a few areas of contention — but the BMW 550i would most certainly be among the nominees with Vegas odds in its favor."

I wrote that back in 2008 about the previous-generation BMW 5 Series. While I always thought it looked silly and not like a proper BMW, I begrudgingly had to admit that it was sensational for all that stuff up there and that it still drove like a proper BMW.

This new 5 Series, however, does not get that same endorsement. It may look more like a proper BMW, but now it drives silly.

It starts the second I dip into the throttle and nothing happens. I have absolutely no idea why people supposedly like this lazy throttle response or why BMW thought it was a good idea, but it's infuriating. Alas, I am in "Normal" mode because the car defaults to that every time I start the car. Press "Sport" and now the throttle response still has a brief delay, but it's immediately followed by this manic, hyper sensitive reaction that makes you feel like you dumped a gallon of Monster Assault into the gas tank. Great on a canyon road I suppose, but nutty everywhere else.

Hey, I have an idea. What about a "BMW" mode that feels like, you know, what the 5 and all the old BMWs felt like. My Z3 may be old, flaccid and thrown together Frankenstein-style with parts from two different 3 Series, but at least it doesn't feel like it's A) Asleep or B) Controlled by a caffeinated squirrel.

Once I move beyond the throttle, the rest of the new 5 begins to sink in. Yes, it's very big now, but that's not my biggest beef. The last generation was pretty big, too. It just feels too soft and too isolating, almost (gulp) Volvo-like. The electric steering is a great approximation, but again, neither of the two driving modes successfully achieve the outgoing engineering artistry. It doesn't encourage you to drive; it feels like a limo now.

Now, I understand that typical midsize luxury sedan buyers aren't taking their cars to track days, probably don't live within 1,000 miles of a canyon and will rely on their car principally for commuting, errands and road trips. Yet the stereotypical BMW driver (and I've talked to a few about this very topic), want a car that makes them excited to drive regardless of where they're going. I count myself in that group. The old 5 Series begged me to drive it, the new car doesn't and I think that's sad.

Frankly, I think BMW is losing the plot and risks losing its core clientele while attempting to suck in Lexus drivers or whoever will supposedly benefit from "Normal" modes and all that isolation. One 5 Series owner I talked to said the new car doesn't interest him, coming to a similar conclusion I did after a test drive. I can't be certain, but I'd wager that could be a common response.

One thing I am certain about, however: BMW 5 Series is no longer in my running for perfect car.

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtests/2011/05/2011-bmw-528i-i-dont-like-this-car-either.html

As many have already noted, the 5 Series is now more like a smaller 7 Series than what it used to be - a larger 3 Series.

 

[Rebecca]

The Equus is a sharp looking car though .... you gotta admit

I had a chance to drive Genesis 3.8, 4.8 and Equus last week.

The Hyundai dealer loan me a Genesis 3.8 while my Genny4.6 is being repaired.

To make it short, I was very disappointed with Gen3.8.
It almost feel more like Sonata than Genesis family.

For $10K more Gen4.6 is FAR better than 3.8 that doesn't even have navigation tech package.

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But comparing Gen4.6 with $59K Equus Signature, I just don't see $15K worth in Equus.

Yes, Equus rides much more smoothly; you can't feel the pot holes.
But that's about it...

Ok, there are few more goodies,

Both front seats have cool air seat,
back side windows have screen,
hmmm what else...

ahhhh FREE ipad !

For this do I want to pay $15000 more?
I am not so sure....as of now anyway....

But actually the best thing about Equus is that the owner does't have to come to dealer for oil change or repair service. The dealer employee will bring a Genny or Equus loaner and take the car to repair and bring it back to owner's home when it is done.
Nice, huh?


For $6000 more, I can get mini refrigerator, stretch back seat with leg holder. Well, this Ultimate Equus is designed for those lucky guys with chauffeur.

Well, I don't have a chauffeur...so forget the Equus ultimate...