Where is the RELAY located for the turn signals?

[bbk]

Gimli, thanks much for questioning and making me double check. I stand corrected; the base for the front turn signal is indeed the BAY15d (bayonet, dual contact, offset pins). The bulb base is marked with "12V 28/8W 2357".

 

[Gimli]

Awesome, that means any regular 1157 or 2357 LED should work in the front blinker spot, IF Hyundai didn't decide to switch negative and positive leads like they did for the rear blinkers.

 

[bbk]

Right, but how are we going to deal with the no-load, double-frequency blinking?

 

[scottdk]

Right, but how are we going to deal with the no-load, double-frequency blinking?

We'll just wait until we find the correct relay and then swap it out with a led relay.

Only solution I can think of. In the spring I will dig into this more and see if I can find the correct relay, since I'm more familiar with the car.

 

[HYTECH]

There is no Relay or flasher. Each bulb is turned on and off independantly by a transistor inside the FAM (Front Area Module)

 

[scottdk]

There is no Relay or flasher. Each bulb is turned on and off independantly by a transistor inside the FAM (Front Area Module)

Well, where have you been?? Now what? Any idea regarding changing the turn signals over to LED's without having problems without changing the relay (that doesn't exist)?

 

[HYTECH]

Well because we can't change the Firmware in the FAM you have no choice but to use a load resistor.

 

[scottdk]

Well because we can't change the Firmware in the FAM you have no choice but to use a load resistor.

Ick I'll pass for now. Maybe eventually I'll get board one day and order up the load resistor

 

[HYTECH]

I'm not sure were to get them but I have seen bulbs with a built in load resistor.

 

[scottdk]

I do recall seeing bulbs with the built in resistor now that you mention it I'll have to investigate further once I take my car out of storage. Thanks for the info

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[TNTitan]

I do recall seeing bulbs with the built in resistor now that you mention it I'll have to investigate further once I take my car out of storage. Thanks for the info

Sorry to dredge up an older thread, but I am curious. scottdk - have you had any luck sourcing a compatible amber LED with built-in resistor? I am very interested in replacing my current front turn signals with LEDs if possible.

 

[scottdk]

Sorry to dredge up an older thread, but I am curious. scottdk - have you had any luck sourcing a compatible amber LED with built-in resistor? I am very interested in replacing my current front turn signals with LEDs if possible.

Honestly, I have not had a ton of time to look into. I'm sure it's something that I will look into, just need some time to research bulbs and find the ones for me. Let me know if you find out anything in the meantime.

 

[mdeanster]

Sorry to dredge up an older thread, but I am curious. scottdk - have you had any luck sourcing a compatible amber LED with built-in resistor? I am very interested in replacing my current front turn signals with LEDs if possible.

Stirring up again, a very old thread, I have been researching extensively the current LED bulbs and the issues therein available for our turn signals. I'm annoyed that our Genesis could have been made with all LED's, but were not. Incandescents date vehicles these days.

Since the flashing sound similar to a relay is optional and can be turned off in the settings through the electronics setup, it seems obvious it is just computer controled. No relay to swap out.

While we can splice a load resistor into the wiring for the rear turn signals, which gives us greater options for bulb selections from many sources for the rear, the front is as previously described a socket without wires to connect a resistor. I have just ordered from iJDMtoy.com front signal LED bulbs (sold in pairs for $79.99) that are made for this specific purpose with the load resistance built in.

See: http://store.ijdmtoy.com/No-Load-Res...5-led-2ghj.htm

Quoting their description: "Each error free LED bulb contains 20 pieces Beautiful High Quality 3-Cell 5050 SMD chips (available in Xenon White or Amber Yellow), which are three times brighter than stock filament bulbs.

The revolutionary new design makes possible to have CAN-bus load resistors built-in, the wattage for each LED bulb is 18W so these LED bulbs are completely error free without the annoying hyper flash problem anymore."

They tested the bulbs in BMW and Mercedes and found no errors. I hope 18watts simulated will be enough for our Genesis to operate normally. I guess I'm going to find out.

Only other question is how bright are these bulbs, really. If you have researched LED's at the various manufacturers websites and read the reviews, then I'm sure you are as unsure of the output from one source to the other as I am. I guess I'll also find out how bright these are.

I am trying the 1157's in the front first and if they work and are bright, I'll probably get the 7507's from them for the rear. Otherwise, if it's just an issue with brightness, I might try the load resistors and another brand of bulb for the rear.

 

[scottdk]

Stirring up again, a very old thread, I have been researching extensively the current LED bulbs and the issues therein available for our turn signals. I'm annoyed that our Genesis could have been made with all LED's, but were not. Incandescents date vehicles these days.

Since the flashing sound similar to a relay is optional and can be turned off in the settings through the electronics setup, it seems obvious it is just computer controled. No relay to swap out.

While we can splice a load resistor into the wiring for the rear turn signals, which gives us greater options for bulb selections from many sources for the rear, the front is as previously described a socket without wires to connect a resistor. I have just ordered from iJDMtoy.com front signal LED bulbs (sold in pairs for $79.99) that are made for this specific purpose with the load resistance built in.

See: http://store.ijdmtoy.com/No-Load-Res...5-led-2ghj.htm

Quoting their description: "Each error free LED bulb contains 20 pieces Beautiful High Quality 3-Cell 5050 SMD chips (available in Xenon White or Amber Yellow), which are three times brighter than stock filament bulbs.

The revolutionary new design makes possible to have CAN-bus load resistors built-in, the wattage for each LED bulb is 18W so these LED bulbs are completely error free without the annoying hyper flash problem anymore."

They tested the bulbs in BMW and Mercedes and found no errors. I hope 18watts simulated will be enough for our Genesis to operate normally. I guess I'm going to find out.

Only other question is how bright are these bulbs, really. If you have researched LED's at the various manufacturers websites and read the reviews, then I'm sure you are as unsure of the output from one source to the other as I am. I guess I'll also find out how bright these are.

I am trying the 1157's in the front first and if they work and are bright, I'll probably get the 7507's from them for the rear. Otherwise, if it's just an issue with brightness, I might try the load resistors and another brand of bulb for the rear.

Post a vid after you have installed them, should look nice. Although 18 watts seems insane!

 

[scottdk]

Time to bump another old thread. 3.5 years later I have the solution mentioned above. There is no hyper flashing and no issues at all with the turn signals using these bulbs Basically, the bulb has a plug that connects to a load resistor and that is all to be done. The bulb plugs in as normal. I will start a new thread with video tonight once it's dark out. I'm going to order another pair for the front. What I bought for the rear:

http://store.ijdmtoy.com/1156-7506-Single-Filament-Error-Free-LED-Bulbs-p/error-free-1156-2m.htm

These would probably be better though. No resistor even needed, but cost another $10.

http://store.ijdmtoy.com/No-Resistor-Required-Error-Free-LED-Turn-Signal-p/canbus-2g.htm

 

[consilius]

Huge misinformation in these threads.

I've purchased LED bulbs for my vehicle. Will start a new thread and link it from this thread over the weekend with my findings.

 

[scottdk]

The bulbs I purchased were garbage. 1200 lumens my ass! They were not bright enough on sunny days and would wash out the signal completely!

They do make bulbs with the resisters built in, but I didn't purchase them at the time. Plus I think the LED bulb in a standard lens looks jank. An actual LED lens would be the solution. Does the 2 gen Genesis have LED signals? It should.

 

[SoCalJay]

Huge misinformation in these threads.

I've purchased LED bulbs for my vehicle. Will start a new thread and link it from this thread over the weekend with my findings.

Nice. I'm looking forward to your thread as I'd like to do the same retrofit ASAP.

 

[consilius]

Nice. I'm looking forward to your thread as I'd like to do the same retrofit ASAP.

Actually, I take back my last statement. I was a little hasty with my statement. I showed an automotive electrician this thread and he has told me that there were lots of misinformation in this thread.
We took the car apart and it looks like the only way to get LEDs installed will be through the addition or resistors or by playing around with the circuit board (expensive to repair if damaged).

Turning on the 4-ways when the car is fully off will not result in hyper blinking, which added to my confusion.

As soon as I started the car and turned on the signals, the hyper blinking returned.

Front and rear LEDs are installed and I've been driving around with hyper blinking on my vehicle. I finally got some resistors in from Diode Dynamics so hopefully soon, I'll get around to getting the resistors installed in the rear tail lights as well as the front.

 

[marli]

Maybe because Hyundai's service is pretty poor and their tech service non existent.