Why 2012 V6 owners made the right choice...

[Glashub]

I could've bought an R-Spec but chose to buy a 4.6 for these reasons:

• The R-spec suspension will never allow me to toss it like a TL or comparable car. No matter how much they beef up the suspension.
• In LA I have yet to be able to really use the 385 hp I have so the extra hp is wasted for me.
• The 5.0 is about .5 seconds faster than the 4.6 in the 1/4 mile if I remember correctly.
• GDI allows manufacturers to bore out an existing block and to get more horsepower but there have been numerous complaints about carbon buildup in other DI engines. I didn't want to chance hitting 15k mileage and noticing hp is decreasing. Hope you don't have that problem.
• The 4.6 still gets better mileage than the R-spec.
• The V8 made the car seem more stable than the V6.
• Paid cash and the $2k saved on buying the 4.6 over the R-spec bought new beautiful speakers for my HT.
• The 4.6 is still a valid and wonderful engine. A proven winner 3 years running whether they phase it out or not.

 

[scottdk]

I have a bit of experience with Genesis: had an '09 4.6, an '11 4.6 and now have a 12 R-Spec. My R-Spec is at the dealer for warranty work (new transmission) and was issued a 12 Genesis V-6 with Sept. 21, 2012 build date.

I mention build date as Hyundai makes running changes, as all mfg. do. Here are some of the changes to the V-6 which are immediately apparent:
1. 18 inch tires and 18" 4.6 wheels.
2. OEM tires are Michelin MX "green" tires with low rolling resistance.
3. 8 speed transmission. Gearing may be same as R-Spec.
4. This model has premium and tech packages; and steering wheel is all leather covered like the R-Spec.

The V-6 has nice starting jump that is not much slower than the R-Spec, which is hampered by low gear torque management. The V-6 is just as smooth and quiet as any V-8. I still prefer the R-Spec just because I love the power, especially when passing on two lane roads. Nevertheless, the V-6 is a very good choice, in my opinion.

What the heck did you do to your tranny Rey?? Hyundai 8 speed can't take the spanking like the good ol' ZF?

EDIT - Also saw your new thread regarding tranny

 

[OGenesis]

The draw to the V8 is the torque #'s. The ability to have all that torque at 3000+ rpms is nice. The V6 is at a disadvantage there.

 

[Aquineas]

I could've bought an R-Spec but chose to buy a 4.6 for these reasons:

• The R-spec suspension will never allow me to toss it like a TL or comparable car. No matter how much they beef up the suspension.
• In LA I have yet to be able to really use the 385 hp I have so the extra hp is wasted for me.
• The 5.0 is about .5 seconds faster than the 4.6 in the 1/4 mile if I remember correctly.
• GDI allows manufacturers to bore out an existing block and to get more horsepower but there have been numerous complaints about carbon buildup in other DI engines. I didn't want to chance hitting 15k mileage and noticing hp is decreasing. Hope you don't have that problem.
• The 4.6 still gets better mileage than the R-spec.
• The V8 made the car seem more stable than the V6.
• Paid cash and the $2k saved on buying the 4.6 over the R-spec bought new beautiful speakers for my HT.
• The 4.6 is still a valid and wonderful engine. A proven winner 3 years running whether they phase it out or not.

Hmmm from what I understand, GDI isn't really impacted by, nor make a difference in, the engine bore. There's a pretty good article here describing how it works and the benefits.

 

[Jimmmmbo!]

OGenesis, you're singin' my song ...

 

[OGenesis]

OGenesis, you're singin' my song ...

Thanks Jim!! I guess you are loving your V6 as well?...or maybe you also want a little toy to have some fun with too!! I just love cars!! Wish I had more time and some more cash to love em more though!

 

[newman]

OK, I have to chime in here:

1) R-spec not a sports car? It is to me!
2) R-spec can't handle? I can slide it around a 90-degree corner doing 50+ mph. Handles pretty well for me.

I agree with the OP that the v-6 is a very nice car and I also agree that 5K toward another car or purpose is an advantage. I just don't see how that has to translate into the R-Spec being deficient. They are just different cars for different tastes.

Cheers,
Newman

 

[nextcar]

The V-6 is just as smooth and quiet as any V-8.

I completely disagree with that statement.
The Genny V8 is smoother and quieter than the V6. In fact, that's the reason I chose the V8 over the V6, not because of any acceleration advantage.
This is based on my test drives of 2011 4.6 and 2012 3.8.

 

[OGenesis]

OK, I have to chime in here:

1) R-spec not a sports car? It is to me!
2) R-spec can't handle? I can slide it around a 90-degree corner doing 50+ mph. Handles pretty well for me.

I agree with the OP that the v-6 is a very nice car and I also agree that 5K toward another car or purpose is an advantage. I just don't see how that has to translate into the R-Spec being deficient. They are just different cars for different tastes.

Cheers,
Newman

Newman,

You should enjoy your car as you see fit...Drive it like you stole if need be!! To me though a sports car is something I can manually shift through the gearbox and rip around a course. Also, like one of the other posts commented on, the R-spec does not have many amenities that designate it to be driven like a sports car. I mean, more aggressive gearing, a performance exhaust, sport tuned suspension, etc...Its a 4 door luxury car with a beast of an engine. To me it's more of a super fun highway car, where on-ramps would be abused Would I beat on a Genesis day in and day out...I wouldn't. I dont think even the R-spec is built to take high speed turns on the daily. Having had a little 4 cyl. Turbo, tuned, with 20+pounds of boost, AWD and 365 HP to the wheels. I just don't see any Genesis Sedan as a "sports car." Its a heavy car...the R-spec being even heavier than the V6. Given the added weight the performance #'s are not drastically different.

 

[EXBMWGUY]

OK, I have to chime in here:

1) R-spec not a sports car? It is to me!
2) R-spec can't handle? I can slide it around a 90-degree corner doing 50+ mph. Handles pretty well for me.

I agree with the OP that the v-6 is a very nice car and I also agree that 5K toward another car or purpose is an advantage. I just don't see how that has to translate into the R-Spec being deficient. They are just different cars for different tastes.

Cheers,
Newman

Ditto Newman. Perhaps OGenesis tried a little hard to convince people of something they already knew -- that the V6 is a great car? But he also raised an eyebrow or two with the title which, to some people who bought a 4.6 or R-Spec/5.0, might imply that they had made a bad decision with their money. What is a great decision for one can be a terrible decision for the next person, irrespective of ability to pay or anything else.

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[OGenesis]

Ditto Newman. Perhaps OGenesis tried a little hard to convince people of something they already knew -- that the V6 is a great car? But he also raised an eyebrow or two with the title which, to some people who bought a 4.6 or R-Spec/5.0, might imply that they had made a bad decision with their money. What is a great decision for one can be a terrible decision for the next person, irrespective of ability to pay or anything else.

Would the title have pleased you more if I had said..."Right choice for me"

I was simply starting some conversation..not trying to offend you or others who bought the V8...I simply didn't for my interest in building a fast car down the road...

 

[newman]

Would the title have pleased you more if I had said..."Right choice for me"

I was simply starting some conversation..not trying to offend you or others who bought the V8...I simply didn't for my interest in building a fast car down the road...

Hey OGenesis - no offense taken on my part. I appreciate the conversation. I completely agree with you regarding the value of the V6. I also agree that the V8 and R-Spec mean different things to different people.

I do continue to maintain that you can say great things about the V6 without having to make any comments at all regarding the R-Spec and V8. Considering the community here you cannot be surprised that folks would jump in on that topic vociferously.

Is the RSpec a sports car? The answer is yes for me and no for you. No big deal. I think that what triggered these statements was that you made this assertion in the context of stating how great the V6 is. I think that what I (and EXBMWGUY if I can speak for them) are saying is that perhaps these should be two separate threads.


Cheers,
Newman

 

[Jimmmmbo!]

Cripe, people, lighten up. To each their own. That's the beauty of America (at least how it exists today).

The OP loves his V6. I love mine too. What is so bad about telling people on a BBS about it? Expect negative feedback, that's fine. But don't take it to mean you made a lousy choice. He's only giving his opinion and advice. If you read the original post in total, take time to see his overall picture of his review and try to put yourself in someone's shoes other than your own, you'll see his perspective is respectable.

Flame on, as you wish. 3.8, 4.6, 5.0: It only matters to the owner. I can appreciate someone saying that the smaller engine is enough.

 

[SNSN]

I fell in love with the Genesis last week when I went into a showroom...
I test drove a 4.6 and loved it...
my problem was I had a 2010 Maxima with only 20 months into a 39 month lease.
But had to have the car...I just knew I wanted the car with Tech and Lux.
So I tested a 3.8...it still has 330HP, not too shabby...
Problem was prices are so close between all 3 engines with Tech and Lux...
Finally made a deal on a 5.0 with 4800 miles... drove it home last night....I'm in heaven with it.
Made a great deal to lease it for 48 mos, I would have had no problem driving home the 3.8 either.
The car is a winner , with any engine!!!