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Wide Wheels and Tire Sizing G70

Because not every mod is for performance or trying to beat a record. Some just like the look and that's ok too.
Really has nothing to do with performance or beating records. Why wear a 5xl shirt, when you can fit a 2xl? Why run a drag radial in the rear, if it's not about performance?
 
Really has nothing to do with performance or beating records. Why wear a 5xl shirt, when you can fit a 2xl? Why run a drag radial in the rear, if it's not about performance?
I never said my radial wasn't for performance. The person you asked didn't even mention tire type, just size.

I think you miss the point. Which is sometimes people do stuff because they WANT to. Has nothing to do with whether or not someone else thinks it's efficient or a good use of their money.
 
305's are a bit excessive for this platform don't you think? Why spend the money on extra tire, if it's not needed?
I like the way it looks. Having more tire makes it look sportier and more aggressive. Being able to run summer tires instead of radials is amazing year round
 
I got the answer to my own question today. 265/40R19 WILL fit in the front on stock suspension. My wheels are aftermarket, 19x8.5 +30.

You can fit maybe 1 or 2 dollar bills through and that's it 🤣. But the most important thing was that they didn't rub. Once the tires come in and are on the car. I'll post some pics

Why go that big? Well I'm running a 305/35R19 drag radial in the rear and the 265/40R19 is the size needed to stay in spec. Also, it looks pretty badass IMO.
Mission complete.

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Welcome to the 300s. You got an even wider setup than me in the front and more sidewall so I’m wondering how that is
So far, so good. It's extremely close. However, it didn't rub and that was one of the main goals. Didn't need spacers either. This is stock ride height, no spacers.
 
@DaniZ and @Genny Guy I'm researching wheels and tires and want the 305s for traction. Are you guys still enjoying them? Any issues? Thanks!
 
Wide is definitely sick. I love the look. I am AWD and thinking about going with 19x9F
Mission complete.

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You guys have some sick setups. I'm currently thinking about getting 19x9F and 19x10R for my AWD setup. 1.5 inch more tread on the pavement than stock. I'm assuming it should help with launching along with much lighter wheels. The 10.5s are definitely different. Looks really good!
 
Wide is definitely sick. I love the look. I am AWD and thinking about going with 19x9F

You guys have some sick setups. I'm currently thinking about getting 19x9F and 19x10R for my AWD setup. 1.5 inch more tread on the pavement than stock. I'm assuming it should help with launching along with much lighter wheels. The 10.5s are definitely different. Looks really good!
From others research, wider tires don't necessarily help with launch traction as it spreads the weight out across a larger rectangular contact patch. They do help with lateral traction though.

It's tire composition and Sidewall height that helps with launch traction. I recently went from stock sizing w/Falken tires (was spinning all the way through 3rd) to 275/35 et 35, 9.5" (really needs to be 40+ on offset) & 245/40 et 30, 9" w/Pilot Sport AS4. Now I only get squawks on launch and gear change and the acceleration is stupid. The ride is significantly smoother as well.

Not discouraging wider setups, just relaying what I researched for the last few weeks. I'm running JB4 w/ CPI on e3x fuel.

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From others research, wider tires don't necessarily help with launch traction as it spreads the weight out across a larger rectangular contact patch. They do help with lateral traction though.

It's tire composition and Sidewall height that helps with launch traction. I recently went from stock sizing w/Falken tires (was spinning all the way through 3rd) to 275/35 et 35, 9.5" (really needs to be 40+ on offset) & 245/40 et 30, 9" w/Pilot Sport AS4. Now I only get squawks on launch and gear change and the acceleration is stupid. The ride is significantly smoother as well.

Not discouraging wider setups, just relaying what I researched for the last few weeks. I'm running JB4 w/ CPI on e3x fuel.

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Totally understandable. I’m actually looking at 19x9 F 32 Offset 19x9.5R 38 Offset. Do those numbers look ok to you? I don’t want to be spot on flush. Just a tad inward.
 
The fronts should be good. If I remember right the stock rear is 44. I have about 10 mm of poke at 35
 
wider tires don't necessarily help with launch traction as it spreads its weight across...
Depends on the context. With respect to the stock G70 tire setup, going larger would mostly benefit power handling... or more accurately, transfer of drive wheel torque to the road surface. This is very relevant to the guys that have souped up their engine HP/TQ substantially. If you're pushing 500+HP, going wider than stock could quite possibly help with that torque transfer.

That said, launch traction is governed by far more than tire width. One big determinant is tire compliance. A lot of guys probably can't quite put a handle on the concept of tire compliance, so here is an extreme example to illustrate:
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So does this mean you need these drag tires on your G70? Unless you turn yours into a top fuel dragster... of course not. What this does help explain is why some guys complain about going to very wide and low-profile rear tires and still struggle on launch. The problem is compliance... or the lack of it. By going to very low-profile tires, you reduce tire compliance to almost nil. Your rear tires becomes so stiff, they have a tough time "biting" the road surface. Even with LSD, the two rear tires could take turns bouncing off pavement & breaking traction, swapping torque side to side.

The way to prevent this is switch to a rear wheel as small in diameter as would fit over the brakes, and limit the width of rear wheels to the narrowest that is recommended for the tire size you need to handle your car's HP output. By doing so, you maximize tire compliance for optimum launch traction.
a larger rectangular contact patch.
More rectangular contact patch as you go wider, yes. Larger... not necessarily.
They do help with lateral traction though.
Yes, but up to a point. It mainly has to do with load sensitivity. That is a long dissertation, so I'll let Jason explain it:

Beyond that, there are other nuances that are worth considering. One aspect is how wider tires affect handling and chassis balance. This is more relevant to those of us who prefer track days to the 1/4-mile. But it applies to the road as well. Again, I'll let this video explain it, with actual test results:
 
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Ohhh, hims gots pictures AND video! Me likey 👍

Very well put together. Now where were you three weeks ago so I didn't have to scrounge around for everything?

Needs to be a sticky @Volfy
 
LOL... I don't always keep up with every thread. Also, at times I get the sense the discussion is not really focusing on the technical aspect of tire/wheel sizing, as it relates to vehicle dynamics. I try not to cut in if I don't think what I have to say would be relevant - or welcomed - to the prevailing conversation.
 
Sorry if anyone's seen this pic already, just got a new setup. ESR RF2 19x8.5 +30 with a 7mm spacer and 19x9.5 +35. 245/40/19 and 275/35/19.

About the subject of this thread, if anyone's reading this and thinking about aftermarket wheels and tires, I just want to second what Volfy said. I've been through 4 wheel/tire setups and this is the thinnest set of wheels with the tallest sidewall i've run yet. Just remember that while 10 inch wide wheels with a 305 tire might look nice, it might not dynamically be the best.

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I have almost the exact same setup. Why did you use the 7mm spacer? Also, what lowering kit are you using?
 
I have almost the exact same setup. Why did you use the 7mm spacer? Also, what lowering kit are you using?
Wanted the front wheels to be perfectly flush!

I'm on Yellow Speed Racing coilovers which are really great. They're not cheap offbrand stuff, never heard of them, but they ride nice.
 
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