Winter wheel & tire packages?

[Gereking]

The summer tires lost is grip under 7 Celsius.

 

[maxsilver]

The summer tires lost is grip under 7 Celsius.

I've driven on them at temperatures near freezing and they were perfectly fine. Of course I wasn't pulling any 1G corners though.

 

[WhoIsHomer]

This morning it was just below freezing with some snow sticking on the roads. Braking on the snowy patches resulted in my car losing traction and getting a little bit sideways. Probably wasn't a good idea to drive it today

 

[Gereking]

What I fund about summer tires.

https://wyantgroup.com/when-should-you-switch-to-summer-tires/

 

[savemoresaveoften]

The summer tires lost is grip under 7 Celsius.

They feel a little harder below 7 celcius but you still get grip, just not max grip. Standing snow on the ground is a different matter tho

 

[Edmguy]

As long as the road is dry I find the summers are fine down to 0 celcius. Below that there are major traction issues but at zero just don't corner crazy and you are fine. Even this morning it was minus 2 on my drive to work and it was fine. I wouldn't try a sharp freeway offramp at high speed though.

 

[SirFrederick]

I put my summers on back on April 5th. It's dropped down to -10 to -12*C a couple times since then. It's been at 0 to -5*C many mornings as well. I haven't had any issues. Just don't drive like a lunatic when your tires are cold and rock hard in the mornings. Having my car garaged helps so the tires are not so hard when I drive to work in the morning. By the time I drive home after work it's around the +5 to +10 temps right now, so I'm fine by then.

 

[Gereking]

I need your help guy's,
I can buy 4 wheels (for winter), is come from Genesis 2012 2.0T(18 inch), do you think that wheels can fit on my Genesis 2019 3.3T sports. What I confuse is about the offset.

thanks

 

[canucklehead604]

^ if the rims are from the 6MT 2.0T Sport then they'll fit no problem. any of the "Genesis approved" 18" winter wheels replace their 19" summer rim. in CAD, 19" summer rim = 18" winter rim. 18" summer rim = 17" winter rim.

so, if they are from Genesis and are 18", they should fit in place of your 19" sport summer rims.

 

[maxsilver]

I need your help guy's,
I can buy 4 wheels (for winter), is come from Genesis 2012 2.0T(18 inch), do you think that wheels can fit on my Genesis 2019 3.3T sports. What I confuse is about the offset.

thanks

You'll need to find the offset for the wheels to find out whether or not they will clear the Brembos. Earlier in the thread it's stated that +35 and +40 will both work.

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[maxsilver]

^ if the rims are from the 6MT 2.0T Sport then they'll fit no problem. any of the "Genesis approved" 18" winter wheels replace their 19" summer rim. in CAD, 19" summer rim = 18" winter rim. 18" summer rim = 17" winter rim.

so, if they are from Genesis and are 18", they should fit in place of your 19" sport summer rims.

I suspect the wheels he is thinking from are from a Genesis coupe, given the 2012 year listed.

 

[soundman414]

I just got my car this weekend... But I am researching the other things I will need for the car. When researching winter tire setups, I was wondering if I could avoid buying another set of wheels and tires for approximately $2k, and instead get tires only and get them swapped.

Finding winter tires in the original sizes is near impossible and I think extra side profile will be helpful. Bridgestone makes LM-32 Blizzaks in 225/45/19 and 255/40/19, so I could just get the tires swapped each year.

Going up FROM a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19, TO 225/45/19 and 255/40/19 in a winter setup would be acceptable, right?
It would only affect the speedo and odo a tiny bit and there is enough clearance on stock suspension to handle the 5+ increase in the profile?

 

[nsyedhasan]

I just got my car this weekend... But I am researching the other things I will need for the car. When researching winter tire setups, I was wondering if I could avoid buying another set of wheels and tires for approximately $2k, and instead get tires only and get them swapped.

Finding winter tires in the original sizes is near impossible and I think extra side profile will be helpful. Bridgestone makes LM-32 Blizzaks in 225/45/19 and 255/40/19, so I could just get the tires swapped each year.

Going up FROM a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19, TO 225/45/19 and 255/40/19 in a winter setup would be acceptable, right?
It would only affect the speedo and odo a tiny bit and there is enough clearance on stock suspension to handle the 5+ increase in the profile?

I think the change should be fine, it will just throw off the speedo, you could go to a square set up it will be a little stretch but still should work, but I am not 100% sure

 

[canucklehead604]

^^ the OEM winter tire/wheel setup cost me ~$2k, of which it was close to 50/50 split for tires and wheels. so, the wheels were ~$1k. i'm sure there are less expensive aftermarket options available. can you buy tires alone and do the swap 2X/year? perhaps. but consider the added cost each time to mount and balance, the fact that you cannot re+re yourself, additional wear and tear on the tires and wheels, and that you'll recoup some of the wheel cost when you sell the car. also, having a 2nd set of wheels saves the summer set from winter abuse, road salt, etc.

another benefit to going with an 18" winter setup is the additional sidewall you get which is much preferred for winter driving and ruts, potholes, etc. you can also easily go with a squared setup for winter, which is what Genesis does with their OEM offering. this will lead to further savings since you can do proper rotations.

assuming a guy could recoup ~40% of the wheel cost down the road, i just don't see the rationale for doing tire swaps every year. especially since you need the space to store tires anyways, so space savings is a non-factor.

 

[Toddasaurus]

I'm seriously considering just buying another beater for winter driving. Will cost me a little less than a new set of rims and tires for my G70, and if someone runs into it I couldn't care less.

 

[soundman414]

^^ the OEM winter tire/wheel setup cost me ~$2k, of which it was close to 50/50 split for tires and wheels. so, the wheels were ~$1k. i'm sure there are less expensive aftermarket options available. can you buy tires alone and do the swap 2X/year? perhaps. but consider the added cost each time to mount and balance, the fact that you cannot re+re yourself, additional wear and tear on the tires and wheels, and that you'll recoup some of the wheel cost when you sell the car. also, having a 2nd set of wheels saves the summer set from winter abuse, road salt, etc.

another benefit to going with an 18" winter setup is the additional sidewall you get which is much preferred for winter driving and ruts, potholes, etc. you can also easily go with a squared setup for winter, which is what Genesis does with their OEM offering. this will lead to further savings since you can do proper rotations.

assuming a guy could recoup ~40% of the wheel cost down the road, i just don't see the rationale for doing tire swaps every year. especially since you need the space to store tires anyways, so space savings is a non-factor.

I did that for my last car and totally agree with you... my issue is budget by the time winter rolls around... which I don't think I will have enough this year for $2k to spend on a winter tire setup... because I just got the car with the down payment and $1200 in rim and wheel protection insurance up-front. So definitely next year I will get a second set of rims and probably sell off the winter tires so I can go with a square winter setup next time.

With a set of blizzaks on the stock rims, that are +5 in the sidewall, It's going to be around $800 from the calls I made to some tire shops. My last car I ran 40 profile Blizzak tires in the winter and never f**ked up my rims, even with the potholes in Illinois. I was really just concerned if the +5 was going to be an issue on the car... but it seems to me like everyone who has gone up in sidewall profile seems to be OK.

 

[Edmguy]

I'm seriously considering just buying another beater for winter driving. Will cost me a little less than a new set of rims and tires for my G70, and if someone runs into it I couldn't care less.

Now that sounds like a lot of hassle. Insurance, registration, R&M, storage in the off season. Way easier to have a set of winter wheels and tires. Not to mention winter is too long to be stuck driving a beater. The G70 was a blast last winter. I thought it was a great winter car.

 

[maxsilver]

I'm seriously considering just buying another beater for winter driving. Will cost me a little less than a new set of rims and tires for my G70, and if someone runs into it I couldn't care less.

I would have an incredibly hard time doing this. Like the G70 is easily the nicest car I have ever owned, and I absolutely love driving it. I would likely despise the winter beater in comparision enough that I would never want to drive it.

 

[OMG70]

This could be your winter beater

 

[mkozlows]

Going up FROM a 225/40/19 and 255/35/19, TO 225/45/19 and 255/40/19 in a winter setup would be acceptable, right?
It would only affect the speedo and odo a tiny bit and there is enough clearance on stock suspension to handle the 5+ increase in the profile?

From everything I've read, if the wheel + tire combination is the wrong diameter, it'll throw off your ABS and traction control systems, so isn't recommended.