When will the 2015 Hyundai Genesis be at dealerships?

[ronreal]

It was Hyundai in Van Nuys, Ca.

 

[ksoze]

Thanks Ron, first dealer showroom sighting in the flesh award winner.

Wondered how the black interior looked - like it is not a jet black - what color wood trim was in that car that looked that way? Also mild disappointment on no soft close doors - it is a small but nice finishing highlight for a luxury sedan and is a minor miss to not have included it.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

TO has one? Maybe Oxnard got on in too then. Might have to stop by and take a closer look.

My buddy never came thru. Guess they are too busy tring to get the cars shipped out. But I did snap this pic this morning for those who were asking. Black v6 with no fog lights.



They also had a few cars that looked as if they didn't have the cruise package. The small square in the grill for the detector is not there, just a straight grill.

 

[Mark_888]

Some buyers have no preference, but for the ones who prefer RWD, FWD is not a real option.

I don't agree. RWD maybe be "preferred" but as the Stones said long ago, you can't always get what you want. I personally prefer RWD because I live in a warm climate, but I shopped the TL and ES before purchasing my Genesis, and my final decision had nothing to do with RWD vs FWD. Obviously, this is a matter for V6 buyers only.

And for many who prefer RWD but live in the snow belt, AWD is a must (which is why pretty much all the RWD luxury sedans in dealer lots in the NE and Midwest are AWD equipped) and why it was vital for Hyundai to add AWD to the 2G Genesis.

Not sure what this means. First you say "for some" and then you say "AWD is a must". That combination is meaningless. I once lived in the snowbelt and FWD worked fine for me without AWD. RWD was not an option for me. It might work in places that have flat streets almost everywhere.

Evidently, the market has spoken.

Despite the luxury brand/dealer network and years in the luxury market, the upstarts, Hyundai and Kia sold more high-end sedans (545) than Acura (353).

And that's despite (1) the RLX being an all-new/up to date model - whereas both the Equus and K900 are on a previous gen platform and will soon be replaced, (2) neither having available AWD which is crucial (w/ AWD, we'd probably see something like 750 in total Equus/K900 sales) and (3) being at a higher pricepoint despite lacking the luxury badge.

The V6 RLX is priced too high and Acura dealers don't discount nearly as much as Hyundai dealers (with or without special Hyundai rebates to dealers). It also has the bucktooth front grill that is plaguing all Acura sales.

And if you don't think FWD vs. RWD matters so much, then why doesn't audi offer the A7 and A8 in the States in FWD?

Not sure that I have ever seen a V8 FWD in a sedan. The engine and extra weight on front end would be just to much too deal with.

 

[Crusty Old Shellback]

Chevy Impala SS is V8 FWD.

the torque steer sucks though.

 

[gameday22]

My dealership called me up this morning as they were pulling it off the truck, they got a V6 AWD with Tech (Empire State Gray with Black Leather interior):

Holler Hyundai
1150 N. Orlando Ave
Winter Park, FL 32789
Sales (888) 369-0554

I was able to take it out on a test drive for about 30 minutes with my sales person (Fred) that I got my 2013 from, all I can say is wow...I had a smile from ear to ear for quite a while and still does as I'm posting this. It's truly an amazing change from the current generation. I will post more pictures in a day or two, they are getting 2 V8's either today or tomorrow that are slated to spend a week out at Disney and then will be available for sale at the dealership. I get to take one of them out there this upcoming Wednesday and will post more pictures for you.

I'm not going to do a huge write up as a couple people have already, if you have questions though I will happily answer them. The grille and front end look great in person, the pictures online do not do this car justice. The acceleration in Sport Mode was quick and the shifts were spot on, the AWD system definitely seems to be doing it's job well and it plants you in the seat firmly. There is no notable body roll when cornering and the steering is firm but pleasant when in Sports Mode, it really felt like your were connected with the road.

One thing I can definitely confirm now is no LED fog lights for the V6/AWD. My technician took down the front skid plate that gives access to where they would be located, there is no wiring harness or covered plugs that would allow them to be installed as it stands at this time. The front DRL's are a very bright yellow and also act as your turn signals, the back turn signal is LED but the brake lights themselves are not though sufficiently bright when you step on pedal and look good IMO.


I took a few inside pics with my phone...sorry about the quality but nothing outside cause it was raining pretty steady:

 

[katman0]

Looks great. Thanks for the pics. Question, what is the sync button for on the dash?

 

[ifonline]

Looks like that links the driver side and passenger side A/C settings together.

 

[gameday22]

I'll check it when I go to the dealership tomorrow, what ifonline said is probably it's function.

 

[PMCErnie]

Pearson Hyundai in Richmond, VA has a red '15 base model with tan interior. It just rolled off the truck and I sat in it before it went into the shop for display prep. Window price is $39,000+. The trailer was headed next to Charlottesville and Harrisonburg. The red '15 in Richmond will be on display for sale by this evening.

The DRLs look just like on the '12-'14 models, except you can shut them off. They looked warm white to me, not Amber. In the parking and headlight switch settings an AMBER (not white ) LED strip around the headlamps illuminates. This is all with the car running and in gear. I did not see how the turn signals impact the lighting mix.

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[gameday22]

Pearson Hyundai in Richmond, VA has a red '15 base model with tan interior. It just rolled off the truck and I sat in it before it went into the shop for display prep. Window price is $39,000+. The trailer was headed next to Charlottesville and Harrisonburg.

The DRLs look just like on the '12-'14 models, except you can shut them off. They looked warm white to me, not Amber. In the park and headlight settings an AMBER (not white ) LED strip illuminates. This is all with the car running and in gear.

On the AWD model I saw the inside two lights which are your turn signals stayed on with the stalk settings to auto, they are a very bright amber. When he pulled it into the service bay it was dark enough to make the headlights come on and the LED strip around the outside light up. It seems like the final production model of this vehicle dropped the dual HID headlights up front, or it's something else they cut from the American version of this car....like the LED strip being the blinker on the Korean version. No matter though, it's still a very sexy looking car and a great refresh of the Genesis sedan.

 

[PMCErnie]

I'm still calling the DRLs warm white, not Amber. The LED eyelash lights are amber, almost orange. Big difference between them.

The red color of the '15 is slightly redder and less cranberry than my red '12. Very close, though.

The base model comes with a chrome trim strip along the lower sides of the car.

The shiny, glaring, plastic wood dash is a downer to me, given the posh leather one in my '12 premium model.

After sitting in the '15, I was just as happy to hop back into my paid for '12 and head down the road.

 

[YEH]

I don't agree. RWD maybe be "preferred" but as the Stones said long ago, you can't always get what you want. I personally prefer RWD because I live in a warm climate, but I shopped the TL and ES before purchasing my Genesis, and my final decision had nothing to do with RWD vs FWD. Obviously, this is a matter for V6 buyers only.

But that's you (apparently RWD isn't that impt. to you).

There are many auto enthusiasts who avoid FWD w/ a passion and here, there have been numerous R-Spec owners who got the R-Spec b/c they wanted the combination of RWD + V8.

Btw, you're probably one of the minority to cross-shop the ES w/ the Genesis.

Not sure what this means. First you say "for some" and then you say "AWD is a must". That combination is meaningless. I once lived in the snowbelt and FWD worked fine for me without AWD. RWD was not an option for me. It might work in places that have flat streets almost everywhere.

These days, an AWD option is a must for RWD-based sedans.

AWDs make up 40-50% of sales for RWD-based luxury sedans.

One would be hard pressed to find a RWD on the lots in the New England.

The V6 RLX is priced too high and Acura dealers don't discount nearly as much as Hyundai dealers (with or without special Hyundai rebates to dealers). It also has the bucktooth front grill that is plaguing all Acura sales.

Why is the V6 RLX priced too high is it is supposed to compete in the midsize, luxury sedan segment (actually, kinda in btwn the midsize and fullsize)?

At $48,450 - the RLX is cheaper than the 4 cyl 5 Series and and the Cadillac XTS which is priced similarly sells a whole lot better.


And that bucktooth front grill doesn't seem to have hurt RDX and MDX sales much, if at all.

Not sure that I have ever seen a V8 FWD in a sedan. The engine and extra weight on front end would be just to much too deal with.

Cadillac and Lincoln used to major in V8 powered FWD sedans.

Does it matter what Hyundai thinks, and aren't they just making wild-ass guesses? I would think it matters more what consumers think. Besides, the breadth and width of competitive vehicles shopped by Genesis customers is much wider than they would have you believe.

Do you really think Hyundai developed the Genesis, the Equus and the upcoming new RK compact sedan willy-nilly and w/o a plan or any sense of the auto market?

Just as the Sonata is the mainstream midsize sedan (Accord competitor) and the Azera - the large, upscale FWD sedan (Avalon competitor), Hyundai developed the Genesis sedan as the midsize luxury competitor, the Equus as the full-size, luxury competitor and then upcoming RK as the compact luxury competitor.

Just as Toyota did with the IS, GS and LS and Nissan with the G, M and Q.

The big problem with RLX is the Japanese/US currency exchange rates and the bucktooth grill on the current Acura's. If Acura could somehow overcome these issues, then it would be more a threat, but Genesis will likely still have a serious price advantage (albeit with some discounting) for the foreseeable future.

Where have you been? The falling valuation of the Yen has been a huge boon for the Japanese.

Subaru just chopped off nearly $4k off the price of the BRZ in Europe.

And the similarly bucktoothed RDX and MDX are selling very well for Acura.

All of this stuff is neither and here nor there and just you trying to evade being wrong (again).

Why do you think all the buyers of the new CTS are willing to pony up (at least) a whopping $10k more for the CTS unless they are cognizant that the 3G CTS has moved up a class and now competes with the midsizers instead of the luxury compacts?

 

[Mark_888]

Btw, you're probably one of the minority to cross-shop the ES w/ the Genesis.

True, if you are only talking about the ES, but when you add up all the other cars that everyone considered, it is not accurate to say it is just the two or three you have claimed is the competition. Part of that is the wide price range of the Genesis depending on engine and trim level.

And that bucktooth front grill doesn't seem to have hurt RDX and MDX sales much, if at all.

Are you saying it didn't hurt Acura sales, especially on the TL? Give me a break. The dealers went into armed revolt and the first few months of the new TL back in 2009 (or thereabout). I am considering an RDX as next vehicle, but still don't like the Acura grills. Like I said, I was all set to buy a TL before they made that blunder and I ended up with a Genesis.

Do you really think Hyundai developed the Genesis, the Equus and the upcoming new RK compact sedan willy-nilly and w/o a plan or any sense of the auto market?

This is what you keep distorting. Yes, Hyundai Designed and Built the Genesis/Equus to be a certain kind of car (entry level luxury, or luxury), but as far as saying it only competes with 2 or 3 specific cars is what I object to. Trying to argue whether it competes with BMW 5 vs BMW 7 (as was done in the other thread) is just a waste of time.

 

[Mark_888]

Where have you been? The falling valuation of the Yen has been a huge boon for the Japanese.

I have been to Japan on a number of occasions, that's where I have been. Yes, the Yen has fallen recently, but it was previously higher for a long time. As recently as Oct 1, 2012 the Yen was quite high at 78 Yen per dollar (now it is about 102 Yen per dollar).

 

[PMCErnie]

The theme of this thread is "when will the '15s arrive at dealerships."

 

[gameday22]

More pics and information as promised.

The Sync button is exactly what ifonline stated, it brings the temps on all sides back to whatever the driver has set.


I drove one of the two V8 Ultimate sedans today waiting to go to Disney this upcoming week. I really like the heads up display and how much you can customize the information displayed. The lane keep assist is absolutely amazing and the emergency braking is very "aware" of what is going on in front of it. They added a top down view to the backup camera which shows you the rear bumper from 2 different perspectives. Here are a few pics, still raining ......enjoy

 

[ksoze]

I want badly to really like this car, but at $56K in pictures, it does not yet get my blood moving as much as I would expect. Will see in person - on paper it is a winner, but when one get into that price strata, would need to really feel the love for the car.

 

[gameday22]

I want badly to really like this car, but at $56K in pictures, it does not yet get my blood moving as much as I would expect. Will see in person - on paper it is a winner, but when one get into that price strata, would need to really feel the love for the car.

I hear ya on that, and yes it's a lot of $ but I'd be comparing it to buying a 5 Series BMW or an Audi A6, both of which have a much higher sticker price when similarly equipped. You got to see this car in person, no matter how many pictures I post it wont do justice....it's quite the sexy machine and a great step in the right direction for this car....

Like any other car there are going to be things you love and hate, so far with the limited time I've got to spend in each one it's definitely love at first sight. The technological and safety features alone are worth the added price. In my opinion the car has a much more luxurious feel to the inside especially with the matted wood finish..... and the ride quality/handling characteristics of the car are night and day vs. my 2013.

 

[Alwaysforward]

More pics and information as promised.

What is going on at Disney that these cars are going to?