2013 R-spec owner trying to choose 2015 or 2016 V8

[kf4zra]

I am fairly certain that I will be going to the Gen 2 in the near future.
I will be getting the v8.

Trying to find differences between the two to compare.

Here is what I think I have found, but nobody makes a list of the changes, at least that I can find.

In the 2015 model, there are 2 versions of the v8. One with the DIS wheel and one without.

In 2016, I believe they all have it.

the 2015 had an adjustable damper suspension, but they got rid of that for 2016.

What else has changed?

random thought here. My 2013 R-spec high beams are halogen while the low beams are HID, are they both HID on this car? Also the fog lights on my car are yellowish from an incandescent bulb, did they finally go to an all white configuration?

 

[Midnightsun]

i am fairly certain that i will be going to the gen 2 in the near future.
I will be getting the v8.

Trying to find differences between the two to compare.

Here is what i think i have found, but nobody makes a list of the changes, at least that i can find.

In the 2015 model, there are 2 versions of the v8. One with the dis wheel and one without.

In 2016, i believe they all have it.

The 2016 is only available fully loaded.

the 2015 had an adjustable damper suspension, but they got rid of that for 2016.

Correct plus no rear sun shade.

what else has changed?

Random thought here. My 2013 r-spec high beams are halogen while the low beams are hid, are they both hid on this car? yes, bi-xenon also the fog lights on my car are yellowish from an incandescent bulb, did they finally go to an all white configuration? yes, led

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[kf4zra]

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I wish i could get the v8 in AWD down here, would own it in a heartbeat. I probably dont need it here in FL, but would be a fun performance enhancer

 

[Mark_888]

I wish i could get the v8 in AWD down here, would own it in a heartbeat. I probably dont need it here in FL, but would be a fun performance enhancer

The MPG on the V8 AWD is horrendous.

 

[Mark_888]

I am fairly certain that I will be going to the Gen 2 in the near future.
I will be getting the v8.

Trying to find differences between the two to compare.

Here is what I think I have found, but nobody makes a list of the changes, at least that I can find.

In the 2015 model, there are 2 versions of the v8. One with the DIS wheel and one without.

In 2016, I believe they all have it.

the 2015 had an adjustable damper suspension, but they got rid of that for 2016.

What else has changed?

random thought here. My 2013 R-spec high beams are halogen while the low beams are HID, are they both HID on this car? Also the fog lights on my car are yellowish from an incandescent bulb, did they finally go to an all white configuration?

Hyundai Motor America has run into a big problem. Dealers have way too many 2015's and they need to move them out. Hyundai has removed the link to the 2016 Genesis from their website and put the 2015 link back up, although you can still access it. Here are the two URL's that maybe you can use to compare features.

• 2015 https://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2015/genesis/index.aspx
• 2016 https://www.hyundaiusa.com/vehicles/2016/genesis/index.aspx

One thing for sure, is that if you shop around you should be able to save a bundle on a 2015.

 

[Midnightsun]

The MPG on the V8 AWD is horrendous.

Does anyone actually give a hoot for a few MPG's less? I certainly do not. If I wanted to save MPG's I would be on the Prius forum.

 

[Mark_888]

Does anyone actually give a hoot for a few MPG's less? I certainly do not. If I wanted to save MPG's I would be on the Prius forum.

The difference is 4 MPG. So yes, I think many (but not all) people care.

Furthermore, I am tired of hearing the ridiculous proposition that everyone who even considers gas mileage should therefor buy a Prius.

 

[kf4zra]

a few mpg is not my main concern. Since it is not available in the states, and since I will never drive it in the snow, AWD is a non point.

How do you guys like the adjustable damper system?

 

[Mark_888]

a few mpg is not my main concern. Since it is not available in the states, and since I will never drive it in the snow, AWD is a non point.

How do you guys like the adjustable damper system?

It's not a few, it is 4 MPG difference on the V8 AWD vs RWD. If Hyundai Motor America thought a lot of USA customers would buy it, they would have imported that particular configuration.

 

[Mark_888]

How do you guys like the adjustable damper system?

In a another post, Midnightsun claimed that the 2015 V8 suspension was not actually adjustable, so maybe the Canadians never got that feature.

Most professional reviewers of the 2015 did not like the adjustable suspension on the V8 as much as the standard suspension, because they said the "sport" suspension setting also automatically changed the shift points and other settings that they didn't want changed. Most said the non-Adjustable suspension felt just slightly firmer (and better) than the "normal" setting on the adjustable suspension, and they could set the transmission shift points separately.

Given the above, it is not surprising that HMA dropped the adjustable suspension for the 2016, plus they need to save some features for the G90 coming soon to the USA.

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[ksoze]

The CDC suspension does increase the firmness of the ride and although hampered somewhat by its forced mating to transmission shift point changes, it is a nice to have when pushing the large car. I do not find the regular setting too soft and for most around town driving it is fine. Hyundai did spend time on the cars suspension and it shows. This is from someone who drives one, not reads about it. The difference between this suspension and the G1 model is night and day. I believe Hyundai dropped it as it was likely not economically needed as it was never highlighted on the model and for many new luxe buyers, likely not used.

The 2016 would gain the LED DRL's and an increased warranty on the electronics, but would lose the CDC and the power rear shades.

 

[kf4zra]

The CDC suspension does increase the firmness of the ride and although hampered somewhat by its forced mating to transmission shift point changes, it is a nice to have when pushing the large car. I do not find the regular setting too soft and for most around town driving it is fine. Hyundai did spend time on the cars suspension and it shows. This is from someone who drives one, not reads about it. The difference between this suspension and the G1 model is night and day. I believe Hyundai dropped it as it was likely not economically needed as it was never highlighted on the model and for many new luxe buyers, likely not used.

The 2016 would gain the LED DRL's and an increased warranty on the electronics, but would lose the CDC and the power rear shades.

Thank you for the feedback on the suspension. I like the suspension stiff when I am playing, but wouldnt mind it a little softer when commuting.
The interstate I drive often has a lot of construction on it, and the stiff suspension is beating the crap out of me.

On your DRLs are they the yellow color like the G1 or more white? If they are just an individual bulb, I am thinking I could swap them out for a LED. On the G1 sedans, they were the HI beam lamp, just run at lower power.

 

[ksoze]

On your DRLs are they the yellow color like the G1 or more white? If they are just an individual bulb, I am thinking I could swap them out for a LED. On the G1 sedans, they were the HI beam lamp, just run at lower power.

The DRL's on the 2015 are amber. I use Parking Light mode all the time instead, which uses the LED surrounds (as well as the rear lights). While I would like to have had the LED DRL's, this works partially, although it will be nice to find a way to have them as bright as the 2016 DRL's. I suspect someone may find a way to rig it to mimic the 2016 DRL's. Someone earlier had swapped out the amber with an LED - search the site, there was a thread months ago.

 

[LandoAWD]

The difference is 4 MPG. So yes, I think many (but not all) people care.

Furthermore, I am tired of hearing the ridiculous proposition that everyone who even considers gas mileage should therefor buy a Prius.

You could always pick up a Leaf...

 

[Midnightsun]

The difference is 4 MPG. So yes, I think many (but not all) people care.

Furthermore, I am tired of hearing the ridiculous proposition that everyone who even considers gas mileage should therefor buy a Prius.

My point is the average American drives around 12,000 miles/year @ $2 a gallon and 4 MPG difference we are talking $332/year. For people who purchase a rather expensive car like the Genesis this should not be a major buying factor and if it is then either you cannot afford the car or you simply like to save as much as you can and do not require or want the V8 and went for the less powerful cheaper to purchase V6 option. Nobody is disputing the fact the V6 is a great engine and the Genesis is adequately powered with it.

Reminds me of smaller cars where a V6 or 4 is offered. Yes most go for the 4 because of cost factor and MPG but the overall experience is greatly enhanced by the V6.

 

[Midnightsun]

It's not a few, it is 4 MPG difference on the V8 AWD vs RWD. If Hyundai Motor America thought a lot of USA customers would buy it, they would have imported that particular configuration.

Actually it is not 4 mpg. Only way you got those figures is by using Canadian and US figures and converting since Canada does not have RWD. Canada does not use the same system to evaluate MPG and therefor not compatible.

Here are the figures from the Transport Canada site, AWD 6 vs AWD 8.

On the highway an AWD V6 gets only 1.6mpg better economy vs the V8 AWD. For someone who does a lot of highway the difference is negligible.

On combined overall ratings they get 3.4mpg difference.

I am not slow by any means, Usually first off a light and among the fastest on the highway. I make no attempt to reduce mpg in any way. In others words I am a lead foot. My average between fill ups is 12.5l/100 km or 19mpg if you prefer.

Regarding importation, it has nothing to do with how many people would buy it. It has everything to do with cafe standards and penalties if they do not comply. My guess is IF the USA had both AWD and RWD in the V8 configuration the AWD would seriously outsell the RWD.

 

[Alwaysforward]

I have been consistently getting 20-21 mpg in my 5.0. I use Sport mode and left foot at red light hole shots, highway on/off ramps and any other time i feel the urge . The rest of the time it is in ECO mode.

 

[Mark_888]

Actually it is not 4 mpg. Only way you got those figures is by using Canadian and US figures and converting since Canada does not have RWD. Canada does not use the same system to evaluate MPG and therefor not compatible.

For US vehicles using EPA ratings, the highway rating for the V6 RWD is 29 MPG. For the V6 AWD, the highway rating is 25 MPG. So my number of 4 MPG difference between RWD and AWD is a reasonable extrapolation for the V8 IMO. The city rating difference is 3 MPG.

If someone lives in Canada, or the US Snowbelt, the AWD is certainly worth the extra upfront cost and extra fuel it uses (IMO). For someone who lives in Florida, I personally don't think AWD is worth it ($2500 + 4 MPG worse on highway), even though it does rain a lot in Florida. I have not encountered any traction or handling problems in the rain with my RWD with traction control. I would rather put my money into high quality tires with good traction in the rain.

 

[Midnightsun]

I have been consistently getting 20-21 mpg in my 5.0. I use Sport mode and left foot at red light hole shots, highway on/off ramps and any other time i feel the urge . The rest of the time it is in ECO mode.

We must drive in a similar fashion as the RWD gets you a 1 mpg advantage vs my AWD.

 

[Huddleston]

I just want an AWD v8.