Real world mpg for 5.0 version

[Genentec]

the v8 is useless as a daily commuter. u cant utilize the power any ways if your in traffic half the time, so your just buring up fuel for nothing.

there are trade offs, the 3.8 does feel noticeably lighter.

 

[Nikgen]

"when pushed hard, the 5.0 is definitely noticeably faster than the 3.8" This isn't "sort of" correct. It is correct and, a fact. You may think "sluggish" is a poor choice of words, and, if it makes you feel better, you can even believe it.

The "sort of correct" part was about your use of the word sluggish - we all get that the 5.0 is faster. But sluggish is absolutely a poor choice of words and anyone who was not trolling and being honest would not characterize the V6 as sluggish.

I suppose if you live in the "Great White North", AWD is a necessity but here, where we don't get snow or ice, AWD just adds weight and unneeded complexity, in addition to poorer gas mileage.

You obviously don't understand how H-Trac works and only drive on freshly paved, dry roads, I guess? Maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigvxCBDlwI

Oh and as far as having inferior handling/power transmission, the electronically controlled suspension is far superior to the stock suspension except on icy roads.

I guess roads are never wet where you drive either? or uneven? Your electronically controlled suspension does not constantly monitor and direct power to the wheels that have grip last I checked? No one is saying it does not offer benefits - but so does AWD, no?

I'm not sure where you are driving your Genesis but it is not designed as an off road vehicle so uneven roads aren't its forte. Most roads commonly driven in the US are not so "uneven" as to require AWD. But again, if it make you happy to believe it, feel free.

Again, suggest you read up on H-trac - we're not talking off road. No one said roads require AWD, but it does provide better control and ride when you do encounter the rough ones (quite often these days in NJ, especially with all of the salt and brine they spread each winter). You realize that most most roads in the US don't require a V8 either? In fact, unless I needed to beat the high school kids to the next traffic light, there is not too much opportunity to safely push the V8 to get the most out of it where I live.

It's also funny how you always tout the benefits of your electronically controlled suspension but then minimize the broader benefits of AWD.

So I'll enjoy my "sluggish" AWD V6 and you enjoy your inferior handling V8!

 

[Alwaysforward]

I had the V6 Genesis as a loaner once and I was extremely happy that I bought the V8 after driving the V6. Two totally different cars in my opinion. If I drove the V6 without ever driving the V8, I would have bought it, but I was coming from a 4 banger and wanted all the power I could get when I need it

 

[celltech]

Years ago I had an Infiniti M35S with the 3.5L V6 and a 5 speed auto. That car weighed 4100 lbs and had ~270 HP. I never once complained it didn't have enough power. But I also knew better than to test drive the M45 with its V8.

The 5.0 Genny just has so much presence and "oomph" when you hit it. Do I really need that power on my 13 mile drive to work? No... But I can afford it. Does a Tesla S really need 762 HP? It's all about choice.

 

[tmf2004]

Years ago I had an Infiniti M35S with the 3.5L V6 and a 5 speed auto. That car weighed 4100 lbs and had ~270 HP. I never once complained it didn't have enough power. But I also knew better than to test drive the M45 with its V8.

The 5.0 Genny just has so much presence and "oomph" when you hit it. Do I really need that power on my 13 mile drive to work? No... But I can afford it. Does a Tesla S really need 762 HP? It's all about choice.

the Telsa Model S is one sweet car with the larger wheels and BBK.. i've seen a grey with powder coated grey wheels that looked killer...

I wanted the V6 as well.. I went into the dealer wanting the V6.. the only problem is there were no incentives for the V6 only the V8.. I to came from a 4cyl turbo and the V6 would have been plenty.. The reviews stated the V6 was better weighted for the power and lighter than the V8..

I'm not complaining one bit though.. i love the power and 22mpg on the highway isn't horrible.. The other poster is right though.. you can't utilize the power in every day traffic especially since people like to go the same speed limit in both lanes... Its nice when i punch it to get out of traffic...

 

[Alwaysforward]

... Its nice when i punch it to get out of traffic...

Ditto... It is nice when you have a red light hole shot and take off and then look in the mirror and your a 1/4 mile ahead of the traffic

 

[greekgeek]

V8 is also really nice for low rpm acceleration in everyday driving, very refined power train. It just goes no need to wind it up first.

 

[jimb100]

The "sort of correct" part was about your use of the word sluggish - we all get that the 5.0 is faster. But sluggish is absolutely a poor choice of words and anyone who was not trolling and being honest would not characterize the V6 as sluggish.


You obviously don't understand how H-Trac works and only drive on freshly paved, dry roads, I guess? Maybe this will help you: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sigvxCBDlwI


I guess roads are never wet where you drive either? or uneven? Your electronically controlled suspension does not constantly monitor and direct power to the wheels that have grip last I checked? No one is saying it does not offer benefits - but so does AWD, no?

Again, suggest you read up on H-trac - we're not talking off road. No one said roads require AWD, but it does provide better control and ride when you do encounter the rough ones (quite often these days in NJ, especially with all of the salt and brine they spread each winter). You realize that most most roads in the US don't require a V8 either? In fact, unless I needed to beat the high school kids to the next traffic light, there is not too much opportunity to safely push the V8 to get the most out of it where I live.

It's also funny how you always tout the benefits of your electronically controlled suspension but then minimize the broader benefits of AWD.

So I'll enjoy my "sluggish" AWD V6 and you enjoy your inferior handling V8!

OMG!!!!

How have so many survived the last 100 years without AWD???

Somehow, 16 year olds with no experience manage to survive without AWD, even in NJ.

Now are you saying you don't have the driving skills of a 16 year old, or you just believe all the marketing hype? By the way, how about some proof that AWD Reduces accidents.

Perhaps you should read what Consumer Reports has to say on the subject. Or don't as it may confuse you preconceived notions.

 

[AustinTX]

OMG!!!!

How have so many survived the last 100 years without AWD???

Somehow, 16 year olds with no experience manage to survive without AWD, even in NJ.

Now are you saying you don't have the driving skills of a 16 year old, or you just believe all the marketing hype? By the way, how about some proof that AWD Reduces accidents.

Perhaps you should read what Consumer Reports has to say on the subject. Or don't as it may confuse you preconceived notions.

There is a reason why I stopped responding to your blurbs. This reminded my why. Your thinly veiled insults and extremely opinionated answers make your online persona here completely unlikable.

Not that I think you care - but this might be the reason why people stop talking to you - I sure is reason enough for me ...

 

[kn5owa]

I had the V6 Genesis as a loaner once and I was extremely happy that I bought the V8 after driving the V6. Two totally different cars in my opinion. If I drove the V6 without ever driving the V8, I would have bought it, but I was coming from a 4 banger and wanted all the power I could get when I need it

Try driving in Northern VA *** - drivers are crazy - or maybe just lost - The V8 is like in Star Wars - Put that baby in warp drive and get away from the crazies.

Absolutely a life saver + the V8 has the traditional smoothness and torque that you would expect. And last, but not least, great mileage on the open Hwy, which is what I bought this car for (mainly).

*** by crazy - I mean people who make rapid 3 lane changes approaching intersections and sudden U- turns, by way of example.

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[Nikgen]

OMG!!!!

How have so many survived the last 100 years without AWD???

Somehow, 16 year olds with no experience manage to survive without AWD, even in NJ.

Now are you saying you don't have the driving skills of a 16 year old, or you just believe all the marketing hype? By the way, how about some proof that AWD Reduces accidents.

Perhaps you should read what Consumer Reports has to say on the subject. Or don't as it may confuse you preconceived notions.

Wow - you really are an arrogant a-hole aren't you. Your post is utter nonsense, as usual. It's not even worth trying it have a dialogue with a jerk like you...

 

[Ernie3647]

Nick I see you getting suckered into these 5.0/3.8 things too frequently. All these arguments have been addressed many times before with more or less the same results. The camp that has the 5.0 attempts justification for their decision and likewise the 3.8 camp. There is no finality to these discussions and more often than not result in less than acceptable information exchange and name calling. We all have our criteria of choice in these matters so it has been and will remain so. It is a worthy attempt at luxury car building no matter what the configuration.

 

[Midnightsun]

I think we should discuss why Montecito Blue is the fastest color.

 

[Nikgen]

Nick I see you getting suckered into these 5.0/3.8 things too frequently. All these arguments have been addressed many times before with more or less the same results. The camp that has the 5.0 attempts justification for their decision and likewise the 3.8 camp. There is no finality to these discussions and more often than not result in less than acceptable information exchange and name calling. We all have our criteria of choice in these matters so it has been and will remain so. It is a worthy attempt at luxury car building no matter what the configuration.

Agreed - I have no issue with the 5.0: it's clearly the faster car. However, to suggest things like AWD have no real world benefit is just asinine. I'll just ignore the narrow minded, arrogant posters from here on - as you said, it's not worth it and the truth is pretty obvious to those who are reasonable.

 

[ksoze]

All these arguments have been addressed many times before with more or less the same results. The camp that has the 5.0 attempts justification for their decision and likewise the 3.8 camp. There is no finality to these discussions and more often than not result in less than acceptable information exchange and name calling. We all have our criteria of choice in these matters so it has been and will remain so. It is a worthy attempt at luxury car building no matter what the configuration.

This ^^^^^

 

[Nikgen]

I think we should discuss why Montecito Blue is the fastest color.

I can't really argue that - given that you're Montecito Blue 5.0 is also AWD, it's is definitely faster than my Empire State Gray 3.8 AWD in all conditions except 1: it they stall, I bet I can push my 3.8 faster

Now, if we want to talk about nicest color, that's a different story...

 

[jsmit86]

And....

How have so many survived the last 100 years without:
Bluetooth
Collision Avoidance
Traction Control
Airbags
HID Headlamps
Navigation Systems
Heated and Ventilated Seats
Blind Spot Detection
Rear View Backup Cameras
etc.
etc.

I think all of these things make our motoring better.

 

[jimb100]

Wow - you really are an arrogant a-hole aren't you. Your post is utter nonsense, as usual. It's not even worth trying it have a dialogue with a jerk like you...

As usual, instead of responding with facts you start name calling. This is your trademark. When asked to provide proof of your statements, you start the name calling.

You should be ashamed of your lack of intellectual honesty but people like you never are.

 

[jimb100]

And....

How have so many survived the last 100 years without:
Bluetooth
Collision Avoidance
Traction Control
Airbags
HID Headlamps
Navigation Systems
Heated and Ventilated Seats
Blind Spot Detection
Rear View Backup Cameras
etc.
etc.

I think all of these things make our motoring better.

But the argument is that AWD prevents accidents and V8 engines are only good for stop light racing.

Lots of things make motoring more convenient. Your post doesn't add anything to the discussion of AWD.

The facts are that in many instances AWD causes accidents because it gives drives a false sense of security in weather conditions and only really benefits when the car is moving in a straight line, under acceleration.

Not my opinion, but facts derived by Consumer Reports. But, like politics, internet forums aren't fact based.

 

[jsmit86]

But the argument is that AWD prevents accidents and V8 engines are only good for stop light racing.

Lots of things make motoring more convenient. Your post doesn't add anything to the discussion of AWD.

The facts are that in many instances AWD causes accidents because it gives drives a false sense of security in weather conditions and only really benefits when the car is moving in a straight line, under acceleration.

Not my opinion, but facts derived by Consumer Reports. But, like politics, internet forums aren't fact based.

I live in the Snow Belt. AWD gives much better control in snow conditions, and it's more sure footed in everyday driving. That's enough reason for me.

Yes, some folks get AWD and drive like idiots.(Just like some folks with V-8 engines ) Is that the majority? I don't know, and I have not seen the data.

It's pretty ridiculous to suggest that either of these choices are not valid for some drivers.