Early Owner Feedback

[GenesisYEG]

After asking a very reputable transmission service center.... STAY AWAY FROM DCTs!!!! If I remember correctly, they said Subaru are the only ones who seem to have figured it out. Other than that, don't trust any of them. Exceptions being maybe some of the high performance supercars but in terms of your average everyday car brands stay away from the DCT.

Porsche's PDK-S is the best DCT out there but yeah, I would rather get an 8 speed auto on the more mainstream brands (or better yet, a 6 speed manual).

 

[Tonezorz]

After asking a very reputable transmission service center.... STAY AWAY FROM DCTs!!!! If I remember correctly, they said Subaru are the only ones who seem to have figured it out. Other than that, don't trust any of them. Exceptions being maybe some of the high performance supercars but in terms of your average everyday car brands stay away from the DCT.

I do agree with the sentiment about most DCTs, but they're also not expensive to repair, similar to traditional manual transmissions.

That said, Subaru only uses CVTs now, which they've also had issues with. Not as many as some, and they're now mostly robust, but yes. CVT /=/ DCT.

 

[devellis]

Okay, so a dumb question that doesn't deserve its own thread and I thought might fit here since people who've already got the car seem in the best position to answer:

How do you clean the brake calipers? Those bright red Brembo calipers look sharp. But they're obviously going to get caked with crud as a result of driving. What do you do to get them clean? Does your typical drive-thru car wash do the trick? Do you have to reach between the wheel spokes with a brush to get them clean? What's the deal? Curious minds want to know. In all the pictures, they look great. In the real world, I've seen cars with brightly colored calipers in a wide range of states of cleanliness from great to pathetic. What does it take to keep them looking good?

 

[KDX]

I use the bug/tire cleaner option at the car wash at the beginning of the wash (using a wand not a drive through) and let it sit for a bit while I wash the rest of the vehicle. I chamois my vehicle after the wash and will use paper towel on the calipers. Looks new. A roll of paper towels fits nicely in the side storage area on the right hand side of the trunk.

 

[devellis]

I use the bug/tire cleaner option at the car wash at the beginning of the wash (using a wand not a drive through) and let it sit for a bit while I wash the rest of the vehicle. I chamois my vehicle after the wash and will use paper towel on the calipers. Looks new. A roll of paper towels fits nicely in the side storage area on the right hand side of the trunk.

Thank you!

I'd love to hear what other folks do, as well.

 

[KDX]

If you don't happen to own a chamois and are going to buy one, do yourself a favor and buy a good quality leather one. They last years and do a superior job compared to the synthetic ones. Just make sure you rinse it out and hang it to dry when you are done.

 

[YEH]

I don't think they will go to a dual clutch transmission. In some recent reviews I watched Audi and BMW were moving away from the dual clutch so I assume they are problematic in the long term.

Well, only rumors, nothing confirmed for RWD application, but the N models are definitely getting a new 8 spd wet DCT.

 

[Pete_CA]

I did a search for turbo lag and didn't find much. Can those who own a G70 2.0T please comment on how much it suffers from turbo lag? Thanks.

 

[canucklehead604]

^ i don’t own one, but i recently test drove a 2.0T Sport. My current car is a large V6 naturally aspirated, so stepping in to a smaller 4-cyl turbo was a real question mark for me. My hopes were that the usable around-town torque from the turbo down low would offset my car’s top end advantage. I am not sold on this, yet, and need to consider if the 2.0T does not force too much compromise.

There is turbo lag with both the 2.0T as well as the 3.3T that i drove a while ago. Both engines spool up quickly, so lag is not pronounced or prolonged. But comparing the two, the 3.3T pulls like a freight train past 5k rpm. Of course. And when the power comes online in the 3.3T is hits hard. The 2.0T has decent midrange but does not have much for top end power, its power punch is much softer and feels a bit underwhelming.

I still believe that Hyundai could get a lot more out of the 2.0T. It seems muted, as if they’ve gone extremely conservative with the tune. Many other 2.0T’s come in ~270-280hp and close to 300 ft-lb. that would be an ideal number for the base engine to be at to keep it competitive. Initial numbers put the 2.0T in the low to mid 6s range 0-60. This really needs to be closer to the mid/higher 5s range to keep up with the pack in the segment for base engines.

The 2.0T sport was still fun, mind you. Handling was almost perfect, great brakes, and it felt noticeably lighter than the 3.3T AWD. It was very tossable, very engaging, and not at all intimidating. You would certainly be able to extract everything out of it without worrying about getting into too much trouble. Sort of like a Mazda Miata - both cars are not overpowering which allows you to really exploit everything the car can throw at you.

I have heard rumours of a 2.5T being developed and would love to see that engine in ~2 years still mated to the 6MT, making ~300hp. Still a big spread to the 3.3T, which by then would likely get a bump in power anyhow. Genesis will need a more powerful 4-cyl for the upcoming SUV’s they have planned. The current 2.0T, with its current tune, will not cut it for life in a heavier SUV.

 

[YEH]

I have heard rumours of a 2.5T being developed and would love to see that engine in ~2 years still mated to the 6MT, making ~300hp. Still a big spread to the 3.3T, which by then would likely get a bump in power anyhow. Genesis will need a more powerful 4-cyl for the upcoming SUV’s they have planned. The current 2.0T, with its current tune, will not cut it for life in a heavier SUV.

Not a rumor.

As is, the 2.5T is expected to push out around 300 HP for RWD application; and a performance variant will go higher.

The rumor is that Hyundai has been fooling around w/ supercharging the 2.5L motor; will probably see electrification of the boost systems which is why I think a 48V battery will eventually become the norm.

W/ electric-assist, something like 320-340HP should be doable which should be enough power to satisfy most buyers.

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[canucklehead604]

Not a rumor.

As is, the 2.5T is expected to push out around 300 HP for RWD application; and a performance variant will go higher.

^ i suppose the questions are: will this engine makes its way into the G70? if so, when would this be? and, will this engine retain the 6MT trim?

crystal ball questions for sure, but would be great to have some insight...

 

[YEH]

^ Don't see why not (why go thru all the trouble?).

As to timing, the next gen G80 purportedly will be the 1st Genesis model to get the 2.5T (as the new base engine; not sure of the US will get it), so likely won't be until the G70 gets its facelift.

As for retaining he 6MT, guess that will depend on how sales fare until then.

Not yet confirmed directly from Hyundai, but the 3.3TT will get a bump up in displacement to 3.5L.

So w/ the 10 spd AT (which seemingly has taken forever) and the increasing likelihood Genesis will go w/ a 48V system, there will be major upgrades re powertain in the next few years.

 

[canucklehead604]

i'm about a week into ownership, but with less than 100kms put on the G70 (away for labour day weekend). i was able to give it a wash and thorough going-over before the weekend but a full detail is coming up soon.

after ~25kms of spirited driving i was curious about brake dusting so i swiped at the 5-spoke sport rims. brake dust = check! the sport pads that come on the 6MT trim have awesome bite but they do dust - this is the trade-off. this said, i do appreciate the dark 5-spoke rims from a maintenance standpoint. with the aggressive pad compound the 10-spoke rims, which i have been a strong supporter of, would be a pain to keep clean. lots of nooks and crannies to reach. i can't stand seeing wheels covered in brake dust (BMWs and MBs are bad for this) so it is something i would be fighting constantly between washes had the 10-spokers been an option. with the 5-spoke rims you'd have to look very closely to tell that a layer of brake dust had built up. going between washes won't be a problem in this regard.

and the 5-spoke rims are very easy to clean - among the best access of any wheel i've owned. also, the Brembo calipers can be cleaned at the same time given the large spoke openings.

just an observation from a recent owner...

 

[mcornett]

i'm about a week into ownership, but with less than 100kms put on the G70 (away for labour day weekend). i was able to give it a wash and thorough going-over before the weekend but a full detail is coming up soon.

after ~25kms of spirited driving i was curious about brake dusting so i swiped at the 5-spoke sport rims. brake dust = check! the sport pads that come on the 6MT trim have awesome bite but they do dust - this is the trade-off. this said, i do appreciate the dark 5-spoke rims from a maintenance standpoint. with the aggressive pad compound the 10-spoke rims, which i have been a strong supporter of, would be a pain to keep clean. lots of nooks and crannies to reach. i can't stand seeing wheels covered in brake dust (BMWs and MBs are bad for this) so it is something i would be fighting constantly between washes had the 10-spokers been an option. with the 5-spoke rims you'd have to look very closely to tell that a layer of brake dust had built up. going between washes won't be a problem in this regard.

and the 5-spoke rims are very easy to clean - among the best access of any wheel i've owned. also, the Brembo calipers can be cleaned at the same time given the large spoke openings.

just an observation from a recent owner...

Can echo this. There is some dust, but actually way, way less than my MB. Also easier to keep clean — the surface of the wheel is very smooth and has few crevices.

 

[devellis]

i'm about a week into ownership, but with less than 100kms put on the G70 (away for labour day weekend). i was able to give it a wash and thorough going-over before the weekend but a full detail is coming up soon.

after ~25kms of spirited driving i was curious about brake dusting so i swiped at the 5-spoke sport rims. brake dust = check! the sport pads that come on the 6MT trim have awesome bite but they do dust - this is the trade-off. this said, i do appreciate the dark 5-spoke rims from a maintenance standpoint. with the aggressive pad compound the 10-spoke rims, which i have been a strong supporter of, would be a pain to keep clean. lots of nooks and crannies to reach. i can't stand seeing wheels covered in brake dust (BMWs and MBs are bad for this) so it is something i would be fighting constantly between washes had the 10-spokers been an option. with the 5-spoke rims you'd have to look very closely to tell that a layer of brake dust had built up. going between washes won't be a problem in this regard.

and the 5-spoke rims are very easy to clean - among the best access of any wheel i've owned. also, the Brembo calipers can be cleaned at the same time given the large spoke openings.

just an observation from a recent owner...

This isn't something I would have thought about but it's actually a very useful piece of information. It elevates the value of the 5-spokers in my estimation.

 

[canucklehead604]

^ and for those who use drive-thru washes (for shame), i'd imagine the 5-spokers may actually get cleaned by the wash brushes. as good as the 10-spoke rims look, there is no way they'd get cleaned properly. hand wash would be mandatory for a clean 10-spoke rim.

 

[canucklehead604]

another positive note from the field - the G70 has a good horn! good volume and tone, not some wimpy beep. much appreciated for driving in and around Vancity with our unbelievably horrendous driver skill demographic.

 

[scelaton]

Since this is the right thread for this, I’ve been reading about some negative experiences on this forum, and wanted to weigh in with some positive ones.

I went the old school route and went to a dealership to buy my G70 3.3T. It was the Hyundai dealership where I live, and I dealt with the Genesis rep there, who treated my wife and I well, and was knowledgeable about the lineup and trims. No complaints there.

We really wanted the Siberian Ice, and were quoted about 3-5 weeks for the car to arrive, which made me sad. Nine days later, the car was in! (talk about under promise and over deliver). We got lucky, since it must have already been headed our way in transit when we put our order in (On that note, I feel for those that had to wait the quoted time, and especially for those in the states waiting for news about release dates).

The car was delivered super clean. I did a hand wax application a few days later, giving me a chance to meticulously look at every panel, and there was nothing wrong with anything. No rattles or loose parts inside. Everything feels solid so far.

From an ownership perspective, it’s only been a short while, but I don’t have any problems to report. I will when I encounter them.

I’ve done zero highway driving, only my commute to work, sometimes taking the scenic route. Mileage with this driving has been 9-10 L/100Km when in a mix of eco and comfort, and 12-14L/100km on Sport, with paddle shifting on, holding gears unnecessarily all the time, accelerating often, and just playing around. That’s well within what I expected. Again, I’ll post when I have more miles under the belt, and especially after some highway driving and propper mileage calculations after filling up at the pump.

That’s a long post, but I figure if few people report their good experiences, and only negative ones get seen, future buyers may start to assume the worst about the brand.

I’ll return once I’ve had run-ins with the service department and/or booking a pick-up at home, which I’ve seen has been a weak point in others’ experience.

Thanks for the info, disbeliever. Two questions for you:
1) Can you describe what the Siberian Ice colour looks like, because, although I am interested in it, the different web images don't seem to all jive?
2) I assume your interior is black with red stitching, as that seems to be the only option on the top of the line model. I wanted the grey with white stitching and am a bit frustrated at the lack of permutations and combinations of colours offered.

 

[Dpaulc]

Can any early owners answer the following questions?

1. Does the smart cruise control remember your previously set follow distance after turning off the car?
2. What fuel grade are you using? What is recommended by Genesis?

 

[mcornett]

Can any early owners answer the following questions?

1. Does the smart cruise control remember your previously set follow distance after turning off the car?
2. What fuel grade are you using? What is recommended by Genesis?

1. Yes it does.

2. I’m using 91 in the 3.3T, which is recommended. I believe the 2.0 allows for regular gas.