Early Owner Feedback

[devellis]

New owner and new poster (2.0T)!

Love the car but if there is one gripe it is the off the line acceleration which has been brought up on the last couple pages; It is very slow initially, then punches hard (if you have your foot down) which makes it very jerky. If you don't have your foot down (which normally I wouldn't, i don't in my other cars) it is very slow for about 2 seconds. Not sure if it's horrific turbo lag or more likely bad programming and/or a tall first gear (which it shouldn't have with so many gears). I hope they are able to reprogram a fix because while it's one problem on an amazing vehicle, it's one you see everytime you come to a stop.

Have to say, I find this disturbing. Most companies have worked hard to eliminate turbo lag. If Genesis either has failed to reduce it or is intentionally bumping it up for some unknown reason, that's something that would seriously compromise the driving experience for me. I want a nice, linear response to any throttle input, be it gentle or aggressive. Especially in a car that boasts of its sporting pedigree and the involvement of engineers hired away from other performance brands, this sort of response is surprising and very disappointing. Does this happen when you turn off all of the traction controls? Maybe that's what's dialing back the throttle response. I have to say, I really don't like it when cars try to out-think me. I can modulate my throttle input just fine without the car deciding to do it for me.

I hope this is a problem unique to the 2.0. If the 3.3, which is the version I'm interested in, behaves like this, it'll get scratched off my list in short order.

 

[kmooney4]

Have to say, I find this disturbing. Most companies have worked hard to eliminate turbo lag. If Genesis either has failed to reduce it or is intentionally bumping it up for some unknown reason, that's something that would seriously compromise the driving experience for me. I want a nice, linear response to any throttle input, be it gentle or aggressive. Especially in a car that boasts of its sporting pedigree and the involvement of engineers hired away from other performance brands, this sort of response is surprising and very disappointing. Does this happen when you turn off all of the traction controls? Maybe that's what's dialing back the throttle response. I have to say, I really don't like it when cars try to out-think me. I can modulate my throttle input just fine without the car deciding to do it for me.

I hope this is a problem unique to the 2.0. If the 3.3, which is the version I'm interested in, behaves like this, it'll get scratched off my list in short order.

As far as every professional review and owner review has gone, the 3.3T has tremendous power with minimal turbo lag!! No need to worry

 

[TOGuy242]

As far as every professional review and owner review has gone, the 3.3T has tremendous power with minimal turbo lag!! No need to worry

And as someone who has had one for barely two weeks ... the 3.3T has tremendous power with minimal turbo lag!

 

[kmooney4]

And as someone who has had one for barely two weeks ... the 3.3T has tremendous power with minimal turbo lag!

That's what I like to hear! Keep more comments like that coming!!

 

[devellis]

Thanks, folks. Very reassuring. That 2.0 issue had me worried there for a minute.

 

[Buckdes]

Have to say, I find this disturbing. Most companies have worked hard to eliminate turbo lag. If Genesis either has failed to reduce it or is intentionally bumping it up for some unknown reason, that's something that would seriously compromise the driving experience for me. I want a nice, linear response to any throttle input, be it gentle or aggressive. Especially in a car that boasts of its sporting pedigree and the involvement of engineers hired away from other performance brands, this sort of response is surprising and very disappointing. Does this happen when you turn off all of the traction controls? Maybe that's what's dialing back the throttle response. I have to say, I really don't like it when cars try to out-think me. I can modulate my throttle input just fine without the car deciding to do it for me.

I hope this is a problem unique to the 2.0. If the 3.3, which is the version I'm interested in, behaves like this, it'll get scratched off my list in short order.

The 3.3 definitly has no issue here, in sport mode it has some of the fastest throttle response i have felt and i have driven all the competition, there is some small delay in eco mode and even less in comfort but sport mode is perfect

 

[mcornett]

I also have a 3.3T and I'm totally in agreement that there is minimal turbo lag. It definitely has less lag than my 2016 C300, which was a 2.0T. I do find the first downshift to be a bit rougher than I'd like, but still getting used to the car. Overall, the drive is amazing.

 

[BlancaGenny]

Have to say, I find this disturbing. Most companies have worked hard to eliminate turbo lag. If Genesis either has failed to reduce it or is intentionally bumping it up for some unknown reason, that's something that would seriously compromise the driving experience for me. I want a nice, linear response to any throttle input, be it gentle or aggressive. Especially in a car that boasts of its sporting pedigree and the involvement of engineers hired away from other performance brands, this sort of response is surprising and very disappointing. Does this happen when you turn off all of the traction controls? Maybe that's what's dialing back the throttle response. I have to say, I really don't like it when cars try to out-think me. I can modulate my throttle input just fine without the car deciding to do it for me.

I hope this is a problem unique to the 2.0. If the 3.3, which is the version I'm interested in, behaves like this, it'll get scratched off my list in short order.

I can confirm as well that the 3.3 eliminates unwanted lag. I drove a Stinger GT AWD and from light to light (you know I gave it h*ll), it consistently pulled hard from about 1500rpm. We are human so we know with turbos, comes lag. In the 3.3, it is very very minimal so no need to worry.

 

[NurburggreenG70]

I also have a 3.3T and I'm totally in agreement that there is minimal turbo lag. It definitely has less lag than my 2016 C300, which was a 2.0T. I do find the first downshift to be a bit rougher than I'd like, but still getting used to the car. Overall, the drive is amazing.

Its easy when the 3.3 has good baseline torque, expecting a 2.0l 4 to have good power and no turbo lag and NA comparable linearity is a lot. Half of the fun of a little turbo is that hit of power that you couldnt feel in an NA. Wrxs have good low end torque b/c of the firing order and opposed design so they can minimize that turbo rush, but they still got it

 

[KDX]

I also have a 3.3T and I'm totally in agreement that there is minimal turbo lag. It definitely has less lag than my 2016 C300, which was a 2.0T. I do find the first downshift to be a bit rougher than I'd like, but still getting used to the car. Overall, the drive is amazing.

Dumb question....why did you make the switch from Mercedes to Genesis?

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[Edmguy]

And as someone who has had one for barely two weeks ... the 3.3T has tremendous power with minimal turbo lag!

I will add that it has less than my old 335 (N54) or 535 (N55). You can tell it is there in manual mode if you have the revs really low, but it is no issue any other time.

 

[Buckdes]

I will add that it has less than my old 335 (N54) or 535 (N55). You can tell it is there in manual mode if you have the revs really low, but it is no issue any other time.

I agree, i also came from a 335i and was very annoyed with the delay in throtle of that car

 

[randian]

This is more of a general Genesis problem. The G80 V8 has the same off the line throttle lag, which is not caused by the first gear. It simply doesn’t respond to the initial press of the throttle. You press the throttle harder because of the lag, and when it finally responds it leaps forward.

 

[Beefer]

This is more of a general Genesis problem. The G80 V8 has the same off the line throttle lag, which is not caused by the first gear. It simply doesn’t respond to the initial press of the throttle. You press the throttle harder because of the lag, and when it finally responds it leaps forward.

The V8 is normally aspirated. So what you are saying makes no sense.

 

[kmooney4]

This is more of a general Genesis problem. The G80 V8 has the same off the line throttle lag, which is not caused by the first gear. It simply doesn’t respond to the initial press of the throttle. You press the throttle harder because of the lag, and when it finally responds it leaps forward.

There is no turbo in the V8 so there is no "turbo lag" and of course there will be a little bit of throttle response lag for any non-turbo engine...

 

[NurburggreenG70]

The V8 is normally aspirated. So what you are saying makes no sense.

Could just be an "ease in" throttle mapping choice, or more likely, like the 335i it could be TC kicking in off the line modulating the fuel map. Is TC throttle based or clutch based? I assume throttle

 

[KDX]

In Alex on Autos review of the Stinger he stated the 0-30 time was quite slow and the 30-60 time was quite fast when compared to an Infinity car (and was done on purpose). What I took away from his comment was that the car is made slower initially to save on the drive train.

 

[kmooney4]

Can any of you guys tell me where the fuse box is located, if possible? I'm assuming somewhere behind the glove box maybe? I'm looking at aftermarket ambient lighting kits and found one that got excellent reviews that I might try out and want to know where the fuse box is located to help figure out running of wires and power options. Thanks!

 

[BlancaGenny]

This is more of a general Genesis problem. The G80 V8 has the same off the line throttle lag, which is not caused by the first gear. It simply doesn’t respond to the initial press of the throttle. You press the throttle harder because of the lag, and when it finally responds it leaps forward.

There is no turbo in the V8 so there is no "turbo lag" and of course there will be a little bit of throttle response lag for any non-turbo engine...

I don't think he is meaning that the V8 has turbo lag. He's getting at the initial press of the pedal does nothing for how ever long. Transmissions now-a-days have a learning curve. Any service advisor has that knowledge. Our Genesis/G80 is a luxury car, not a race car. Ease of use and sublteness are characteristics of our cars. If one is complaining about throttle response, go buy a car that is made for a track. If one is complaining about turbo lag, go buy a supercharged or NA vehicle. Throttle response and turbo lag are two totally different issues but mildy produce the same effect.

 

[kmooney4]

I don't think he is meaning that the V8 has turbo lag. He's getting at the initial press of the pedal does nothing for how ever long. Transmissions now-a-days have a learning curve. Any service advisor has that knowledge. Our Genesis/G80 is a luxury car, not a race car. Ease of use and sublteness are characteristics of our cars. If one is complaining about throttle response, go buy a car that is made for a track. If one is complaining about turbo lag, go buy a supercharged or NA vehicle. Throttle response and turbo lag are two totally different issues but mildy produce the same effect.

Good point... it wasn't exactly clear what he was referring to. I shouldn't have assumed he was referring to turbo lag since he owns a V8 he knows (hopefully) that it isn't a turbo engine...