Genesis G70 Reviews

[cheez]

I can firmly say I don't miss the 305hp 273 torque on my Acura. Doesn't feel like a downgrade in terms of power anyway for the way I drive. Maybe on the top end of the Rev range!

The G70 2.0t may give you more immediate power because the torque comes in early so for normal driving you may feel it's better than the 305hp Acura. But under hard acceleration the Acura will milk your 2.0t and leave you behind...

I'm betting 5.6 for RWD and 5.8 for AWD.

If the 2.0t takes 5.6 seconds to 60 mph then the 3.3t would get there in 2.9 seconds. All this may be possible going steep downhill with tailwind pushing you in -20F subzero weather.

Genesis G70 2.0t cannot get to 5.6 sec from 0-60. I said this many times before. Alex on Auto already tested this car and the best they could manage was 7.4 seconds. And Alex on Auto knows what they are doing they are professionals and they use professional equipment. Alex on Auto isn't the only source that complained how slow the car is. A year ago the reviewer in Korea tested both cars in acceleration and they said the difference was so gigantic that they were shocked / terrified. The 2.0t is extremely slow, and the 3.3t is extremely fast. There is huge difference between the two.

If you do some weight reduction and try this on a cold weather you might be able to get to 6.8 sec if you are lucky. For normal weather you are looking at 7+ seconds.

 

[KusaKusa]

Yeah, the number of places reporting an over 7 second 0 to 60 time for the 2.0T is significant, but I have yet to see even a single source measure it below 7 seconds. Reviewers say the experience is good enough, but I'm wondering why it's so much worse than other 2L 4 cylinder turbos, even the Stinger's. It sucks because it's the trim I'm interested in. I wish someone would do a side by side comparison.

 

[EdP]

Yeah, the number of places reporting an over 7 second 0 to 60 time for the 2.0T is significant, but I have yet to see even a single source measure it below 7 seconds. Reviewers say the experience is good enough, but I'm wondering why it's so much worse than other 2L 4 cylinder turbos, even the Stinger's. It sucks because it's the trim I'm interested in. I wish someone would do a side by side comparison.

One possibility is gear ratio. Everyone talks engine size but i don't recall any mention of gearing.

 

[steintm12]

The G70 2.0t may give you more immediate power because the torque comes in early so for normal driving you may feel it's better than the 305hp Acura. But under hard acceleration the Acura will milk your 2.0t and leave you behind...

If the 2.0t takes 5.6 seconds to 60 mph then the 3.3t would get there in 2.9 seconds. All these with going steep downhill with tailwind in -20F subzero weather.

Genesis G70 2.0t cannot get to 5.6 sec from 0-60. I said this many times before. Alex on Auto already tested this car and the best they could manage was 7.4 seconds. And Alex on Auto knows what they are doing they are professionals and are credible source. Alex on Auto isn't the only source that complained how slow the car is. A year ago the reviewer in Korea tested both cars in acceleration and they said the difference was so gigantic that they were shocked / terrified. The 2.0t is extremely slow, and the 3.3t is extremely fast. There is huge difference between the two.

If you do some weight reduction and try this on a cold weather you might get to 6.8 sec if you are lucky. For normal weather you are looking at 7+ seconds.

If you think the G70 2.0T will be 7+ seconds, how do you rationalize Car and Driver and Motor Trend recording 6.0s and 6.6s, respectively, in the Stinger 2.0T? (I posted links in the previous page of this thread.) Same engine and transmission. Nearly identical weight. 225 width all-season tires and no LSD on the Stinger.

Also, for reference, Car and Driver measured 0-60 times of 6.2s (2012, 6-sp auto) and 6.5s (2009, 5-sp auto) in the Acura.

 

[NLJ]

Yeah, the number of places reporting an over 7 second 0 to 60 time for the 2.0T is significant, but I have yet to see even a single source measure it below 7 seconds. Reviewers say the experience is good enough, but I'm wondering why it's so much worse than other 2L 4 cylinder turbos, even the Stinger's. It sucks because it's the trim I'm interested in. I wish someone would do a side by side comparison.

There has not been any proper instrumented tests on it as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of YouTube videos and reviewers saying numbers without proof.
Anyway as an owner, I feel that it accelerates really fast off a full stop. Don't give two shits about drag racing on the street. I drive like I'm on my last tank of gas almost always!

 

[Slip_Angle]

There has not been any proper instrumented tests on it as far as I can tell. Just a bunch of YouTube videos and reviewers saying numbers without proof.
Anyway as an owner, I feel that it accelerates really fast off a full stop. Don't give two shits about drag racing on the street. I drive like I'm on my last tank of gas almost always!

It really is odd. Even though I bought the 3.3T, I test drove the 2.0T several times and it really felt much faster than a 7 second car. Lots of torque all round.

Alex on Auto's speculated in his video that he thought Genesis was limiting launch torque for the 3.3T to make the transmission more reliable over the long run.. Is it possible this may be unnecessarily in place for the 2.0T as well? Seems unlikely but it's hard to explain the numbers..

I wouldn't hesitate recommending the 2.0T to anyone, it's a really nice motor with plenty of go...

 

[canucklehead604]

gearing is the same between Stinger and G70. G70 is lighter, so once we see instrumented tests come in we'll see the times come to where they 'should' be for comparison purposes.

whether or not an owner can responsibly achieve the car mag's test numbers is a moot point, but we need apples-to-apples comparison. even better would be to line up the various 2.0T competitors, including the G70, and publish test data from the same day, same conditions, etc.

there is no way an A4/A5 (whatever) can hit ~5.5s meanwhile the G70 takes ~7.4s, let alone the Stinger in 6.0s which is the same car but heavier.

 

[NLJ]

gearing is the same between Stinger and G70. G70 is lighter, so once we see instrumented tests come in we'll see the times come to where they 'should' be for comparison purposes.

whether or not an owner can responsibly achieve the car mag's test numbers is a moot point, but we need apples-to-apples comparison. even better would be to line up the various 2.0T competitors, including the G70, and publish test data from the same day, same conditions, etc.

there is no way an A4/A5 (whatever) can hit ~5.5s meanwhile the G70 takes ~7.4s, let alone the Stinger in 6.0s which is the same car but heavier.

I agree. The 8AT should be geared similarly with both the 3.3T and 2.0T as well. At least I hope so!

 

[SirFrederick]

Here is an earlier review of the G70 2.0T by Motoring TV and they state 0-60 as 6.4s.
2018 Genesis G70 - Test Drive

I stumbled onto this review after watching an S4 video. Not sure if it's posted in here or not. I don't recall seeing it though. A good little review talking a bit about Genesis as a brand as well.

2019 Genesis G70 - Genesis Refined Performance

 

[steintm12]

Here is an earlier review of the G70 2.0T by Motoring TV and they state 0-60 as 6.4s.
2018 Genesis G70 - Test Drive

Yeah, I had seen that as well. I don't think I'd consider it a reputable instrumented test, but it's something positive to counter the 7s+ claims. Plus, that 6.4s time he cited (at the 2:00 mark) was for 0-100kph (62.1mph). 0-60mph would be a couple tenths quicker.

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[Toddasaurus]

I agree. The 8AT should be geared similarly with both the 3.3T and 2.0T as well. At least I hope so!

Actually, the 2.0t's 8spd tranny has shorter gear ratios than the 3.3tt's 8spd.

Take a look...

2.0t 8spd
First
3.964

Second
2.468

Third
1.610

Fourth
1.176

Fifth
1.000

Sixth
0.832

Seventh
0.652

Eighth
0.565

Final Drive
3.727



And now the 3.3tt 8spd...


First
3.665

Second
2.396

Third
1.610

Fourth
1.190

Fifth
1.000

Sixth
0.826

Seventh
0.643

Eighth
0.556

Final Drive
3.538

As you can see, the biggest differences are in the final drive and first and second gear. That said, all gears will be shorter on the 2.0. In fact, I want to swap that FD on to the 3.3. Anyway, as for how this compared to the Stinger, I don't know... But I agree with you, I bet it's the same.

Edit: got my info here...
Genesis Newsroom

 

[Cowtown]

If the 3.3 had those gear ratios it could creep closer to a 4 second 0-60. It's be interesting to get a dyno and tuner map of both motors to see what that looks like because gear ratios don't seem to be the "issue".

Shawn

Actually, the 2.0t's 8spd tranny has shorter gear ratios than the 3.3tt's 8spd.

Take a look...

2.0t 8spd
First
3.964

Second
2.468

Third
1.610

Fourth
1.176

Fifth
1.000

Sixth
0.832

Seventh
0.652

Eighth
0.565

Final Drive
3.727



And now the 3.3tt 8spd...


First
3.665

Second
2.396

Third
1.610

Fourth
1.190

Fifth
1.000

Sixth
0.826

Seventh
0.643

Eighth
0.556

Final Drive
3.538

As you can see, the biggest differences are in the final drive and first and second gear. That said, all gears will be shorter on the 2.0. In fact, I want to swap that FD on to the 3.3.

Edit: got my info here...
Genesis Newsroom

 

[KusaKusa]

Has Genesis ever released official 0-60 mph or 0-100 km/h numbers for the 2.0T?

 

[steintm12]

Finalist for North American Car of the Year 2019 and the Motor Trend 2019 trophy, must be something to these positive reviews...

Genesis G70: 2019 Motor Trend Car of the Year Finalist - Motor Trend

Motor Trend has now released that the G70 is a "podium finalist" (top three) for 2019 Car of the Year. Winner announced November 26th.
2019 MOTOR TREND AWARDS: HERE ARE THE PODIUM FINALISTS

 

[SirFrederick]

Yeah, I had seen that as well. I don't think I'd consider it a reputable instrumented test, but it's something positive to counter the 7s+ claims. Plus, that 6.4s time he cited (at the 2:00 mark) was for 0-100kph (62.1mph). 0-60mph would be a couple tenths quicker.

Yeah it's probably an educated guess more than anything. I only mentioned it as I've noticed the 2.0t acceleration times are a pretty hot topic of conversation around here. I'm not entirely sure why though.

 

[YEH]

Here's MT's BTW video review on the G70.

Behind The Wheel: Season November 2018, Episode 38 - Behind the Wheel: Driving Genesis’ Ultimate Sports Sedan, the Turbocharged G70 | Motor Trend


And here's an older Canadian print review.

2019 Genesis G70 2.0T Sport | DoubleClutch.ca

 

[KusaKusa]

I think the G70 has a great chance of winning MotorTrend's Car of the Year. The Insight is good, but it isn't anything really new. Its driving dynamics are the same as the Civic's, which is why it's good but nothing new, and the hybrid performance isn't revolutionary. Its only claim to fame is looking normal as a hybrid. The S60 is a trickier call, since it's basically the luxury and comfort of the S60 vs the sportiness of the G70. But I think the good pricing value and the well-roundedness of the G70 will pull through. While the G70 isn't the most luxurious or most comfortable, it's really solid in all areas and doesn't have glaring weaknesses like the S60 has with sportiness.

 

[Cowtown]

Yeah it'll be a tight one but I agree the G70 has a good shot at it. North American Car of the Year as well!

 

[Beefer]

Road/Show review...
2019 Genesis G70: A subtly sharper sport sedan - Video

 

[Toddasaurus]

Road/Show review...
2019 Genesis G70: A subtly sharper sport sedan - Video

Ah, beat me to it!