Getting out of the car wash

[Rspected]

Yeah, OK. Never happened in other cars I had like the 2015 Cadillac XTS I traded in on my 2019 Genesis. And yes, to move the transmission lever I had to push a button.

Then go back to the Cadillac and stop complaining. It's a MINOR inconvenience. And it's not gonna change

 

[EXCADDY]

Then go back to the Cadillac and stop complaining. It's a MINOR inconvenience. And it's not gonna change

Not sure what your problem is. I gave an opinion. You don't have to agree with it. But like a lot of people nowadays, any other opinion no matter how trivial seems to make you angry. I don't intend to go away unless you own this forum, in which case you can remove me. Your expert knowledge is greatly respected. Feel better?

 

[Rspected]

Not sure what your problem is. I gave an opinion. You don't have to agree with it. But like a lot of people nowadays, any other opinion no matter how trivial seems to make you angry. I don't intend to go away unless you own this forum, in which case you can remove me. Your expert knowledge is greatly respected. Feel better?

My issue is I keep trying to tell you the real reasons for why they made you have to push the brakes first, which are all legitimate and possible situations like the guy said a few posts above that they have happened before. And all you are doing is refuting the reasoning saying its unusual that scenario would happen and etc. But the reality is that they DO happen, and that is why they put safety measures on the car. If it's that big of an inconvenience, then buy your old Cadillac again that didn't require tapping the brakes. But I've driven literally thousands of cars with electronic shifters at my store and they ALL require you press the brake pedal before shifting, so it's not gonna change. You said your Cadillac was a what, 2015? This is 4 years later and all the new cars require this. As someone said above, I believe, it's a federal regulation standard.

 

[EXCADDY]

My issue is I keep trying to tell you the real reasons for why they made you have to push the brakes first, which are all legitimate and possible situations like the guy said a few posts above that they have happened before. And all you are doing is refuting the reasoning saying its unusual that scenario would happen and etc. But the reality is that they DO happen, and that is why they put safety measures on the car. If it's that big of an inconvenience, then buy your old Cadillac again that didn't require tapping the brakes. But I've driven literally thousands of cars with electronic shifters at my store and they ALL require you press the brake pedal before shifting, so it's not gonna change. You said your Cadillac was a what, 2015? This is 4 years later and all the new cars require this. As someone said above, I believe, it's a federal regulation standard.

Thank you. You're just so smart and I'm just too ignorant to appreciate it. Again, feel better?

 

[ifonline]

...but then I'm old and contankerous.

Clearly.

 

[EXCADDY]

Clearly.

Exactly. But then I am self aware.

 

[bubbaG80Sport]

In the past, things like that have happened. AFAIK, Genesis and some others will not shift into reverse if the car is moving.

As the tranny is electronically controlled, not a direct mechanical link like in the gold ole' days, I fully expect it would not slam the car into reverse. I'll let you guys test this first though.

Having to depress the brake when shifting is a non-issue for me. Driving basics 101 is to fully stop the car with the brake before changing gears in a auto transmission. It makes me cringe to see people shift from D <-> R without stopping the car first. Maybe that's why I've never had any trouble out of my auto trannies.

It is a safety best practice to depress and hold the brake pedal when shifting from P -> D | R IMO.

 

[EXCADDY]

As the tranny is electronically controlled, not a direct mechanical link like in the gold ole' days, I fully expect it would not slam the car into reverse. I'll let you guys test this first though.

Having to depress the brake when shifting is a non-issue for me. Driving basics 101 is to fully stop the car with the brake before changing gears in a auto transmission. It makes me cringe to see people shift from D <-> R without stopping the car first. Maybe that's why I've never had any trouble out of my auto trannies.

It is a safety best practice to depress and hold the brake pedal when shifting from P -> D | R IMO.

I agree. But I'm talking about shifting from neutral to drive.

 

[EdP]

It is a safety best practice to depress and hold the brake pedal when shifting from P -> D | R IMO.

Going back many years, my fathers '55 Chevy was parked in the driveway on a slight hill. I went in the car to get something and reached to the passenger side and bumped the shift lever out of Park and allowed the car to roll into the garage door. Anyone could have done the same, no key, no brake needed. I guess I understand the need for safety measures, but I did not crush my brother, just close.

 

[Rspected]

I agree. But I'm talking about shifting from neutral to drive.

Though I agree with you that you should be able to switch from neutral to drive without depressing the brake pedal, and I am unsure of what buttons you are referring to because you have not specified your make and model. On my Genesis, I have a standard shifter and am able to freely move between N and D without pushing the pedal.

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[EXCADDY]

Though I agree with you that you should be able to switch from neutral to drive without depressing the brake pedal, and I am unsure of what buttons you are referring to because you have not specified your make and model. On my Genesis, I have a standard shifter and am able to freely move between N and D without pushing the pedal.

I have a 2019 G80. And for the record, I love the car. On the shift lever there is a lock button on the left side of the knob that must be pressed when moving the lever forward or backward. Then, in addition you must press the brake pedal. And that all makes sense when moving the car from Park. As I pull into the car wash, I can move the lever from Drive to Neutral without touching the brake when the attendant asks me to, no worries. At the end of the line to get the car back into drive, I have to push the lock button and press on the brake pedal while shifting from Neutral back to Drive.

I've seen the interesting results when other cars that have the same feature and a confused owner reach the end of the wash line. The owner hits the brake as the car wash rollers lift the car in the air while passing under the rear wheel. Fortunately the car wash line shuts down but it makes for an interesting time and I don't want to be the one providing the humor.

Now, my original reason for starting this thread was to see if there was a setting one could change that would allow me to shift from Neutral to Drive without touching the brake but still requiring me to push the lock button. Apparently that resulted in really irritating a few folks. It's clear there isn't a solution and this is an important "safeguard" for some. But for me it's one of the few design flaws I've seen in an otherwise amazing car.

 

[dareckibmw]

.......I have a standard shifter and am able to freely move between N and D without pushing the pedal.

It was possible in my '13 5.0 Rspec, '15 5.0 but in '18 G80 sport, you have to push the pedal to shift from N to D.

 

[EdP]

It was possible in my '13 5.0 Rspec, '15 5.0 but in '18 G80 sport, you have to push the pedal to shift from N to D.

Pretty sure the '13 was direct linkage while the '18 is shift by wire.

 

[mgg]

I have had my car a couple months and have used the local car wash about once a week. Well these wheels do not get clean if I don't ask for the wheel cleaning which causes 2 rollers to come in and scrub the wheels and costs an extra $2. And the wheel cleaner does a fantastic job of cleaning the rims/ wheels and tires without any scratching! I checked my wheels tonight after reading that someone wheels were scratched with this service. So far I'm really happy with my car wash. I have to wipe it down a little after the wash but that is how I know if anything needs attention. I wipe down inside the doors, trunk channel, gas filler, and sometimes under the hood.

I am happy to report that I am getting pretty good at touching the brake and shifting into drive to leave without disrupting the car wash.

 

[Jberghoff]

It is a three step process
First wash: Panic when you realize what you have to do
Second wash: Hit brake lightly, shift, go
Third wash: No big deal, I got this

You don't have to push the pedal very far down so it is not going to force you to a stop.

I am stuck in panic mode with the car wash. Can I recap your steps to get into drive? Tap brake, push the center button on the shift dial (park) and do i hold that down while trying to shift into drive? Nothing has worked for me yet.