Separate wheels for winter?

[Viking]

Is it really necessary to get separate wheels for winter? Why wouldn't you just get a separate set of tires?

 

[musher51]

Re: Genesis-Specific Rubber Floor Mats?

Is it really necessary to get separate wheels for winter? Why wouldn't you just get a separate set of tires?

While one can certainly cycle winter and summer/performance tires between one set of wheels, I've always been concerned about repeatedly removing and installing tires (particularly given my spotty experience with outfits like Tires Plus, who occasionally seem willing to hire the unhireable). Knowledgeable "motor head" buddies of mine have told me that you're much better off with a dedicated set of wheels for each tire set you own, although it obviously implies a bigger cash outlay.

 

[RichieRichLancair]

Re: Genesis-Specific Rubber Floor Mats?

Seperate wheels and tires option cost isn't only the wheels and tires. There is also the $300+ per wheel pressure monitor and the reprogramming when switched and rotated ($99 for a set of 4 at a Hyundai dealer).

 

[musher51]

Re: Genesis-Specific Rubber Floor Mats?

Whoa, sounds like I'm clueless about what having a TPM system implies (this is my first car with it). You're certain I'd have to pony up another $1200 overall to enable monitoring of a duplicate set of wheels (to say nothing of a more expensive charge for the bi-annual swap)? Yikes.

Might be cheaper to move closer to the equator!

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Re: Genesis-Specific Rubber Floor Mats?

Is it really necessary to get separate wheels for winter? Why wouldn't you just get a separate set of tires?

I separated this into it's own discussion. It was originally in the "Genesis-Specific Rubber Floor Mats?" discussion. This is how easily a discussion can go off-topic (I'm guilty of it myself). Please start new topics in the future.

Thank you!

 

[musher51]

Thanks for the split. I realized my initial thread on mats had morphed into wheels, but didn't know how to separate them after-the-fact. It's nice to have an all-knowing, omniscient moderator around to keep things sorted out!

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Thanks for the split. I realized my initial thread on mats had morphed into wheels, but didn't know how to separate them after-the-fact. It's nice to have an all-knowing, omniscient moderator around to keep things sorted out!

That's what moderators are for!

 

[Duaine]

Rear Wheel Drive

Ok I'm not sure I'm in the right place to ask this question? I figured since it is regarding the wheels I can throw this rear wheel drive question in here.

After looking at some other information out there I was wondering what you guys think about the ability of the Genesis to get around on the snow in the winter months since I live in Iowa and it does at times get pretty nasty around here? Actually, I suppose the ability of any of the newer generation of rear wheel drive cars abilities in winter driving?

The Genesis will certainly be my main vehicle but will be babied just like my Azera is now. It will be mainly my weekend car. I have other cars I can subject to the abuse of sand and salt in the winter months most days.

I have been a few times however caught by surprise while traveling or the winter forecasts just turn out to be just plain wrong.

While my Azera gets around pretty good I thought I would get some opinions from you guys on how you feel about today's rear wheel drive cars?

I know todays rear wheel drive cars should be better than the older ones use to be since most now come with traction and stability control.

Many of the forums still give the edge to front wheel drive in winter driving only. But pretty much all other advantages goes to rear wheel drive cars without going into all that in detail.

This is probably my only area of concern in getting the Genesis. I know some of you guys will just tell me with where I live to get an all wheel drive suv.

Also does the Genesis come with all weather tires like most all front wheel drive cars do? I would hate the thought of going back to having to buy a set of snow tires just to get around with.

I guess I would like to hear what you guys think? Thanks all!

 

[Bman]

Re: Rear Wheel Drive

I currently drive a front wheel drive Saab 9 5 Aero and I use winter tires. I would definitely buy a set of winter wheels and tires for the Genesis.

 

[Vlad92]

Re: Rear Wheel Drive

Nice Bman! I have a 9 3 Aero and have a set of 16 inch steel wheels with Blizzacks which I use in the winter. Being from Europe where it is common practice to run snows in the winter I have always done it. Snow tires make a huge difference in my opinion and I would think putting them on the Genesis would work fine in the winter. My first "real" car was a BMW 323i and I thought I was going to die the first winter... but I put snows on and it was like magic.

Brings up a good point... Does anyone know if 16 inch steel wheels would fit over the brakes on the Genesis? 17 inch snow times can get expensive and don't work as well.

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[BaywayRic]

Re: Rear Wheel Drive

Maybe one of the MODs can move this discussion to this thread? I'll post some TPMS considerations over there.

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=426

edit by Admin: MERGED

 

[BaywayRic]

Re: Separate Wheels for Winter

Seperate wheels and tires option cost isn't only the wheels and tires. There is also the $300+ per wheel pressure monitor and the reprogramming when switched and rotated ($99 for a set of 4 at a Hyundai dealer).

More on the TPMS for those of you considering extra wheels/tires:

TPMS Componets

TPMS Sensor

TPMS Initiator

TPMS Receiver Description

TPMS Receiver Operation

SURE WAS EASIER TO POP ON A SECOND SET OF SNOWS, BACK IN THE DAY​

 

[Duaine]

So like does anyone know exactly what brand and type of tires that the Genesis comes with? Are they all season? I have never had to buy snow tires after going front wheel drive back in the 80's.

Prior to that on the rear wheel drive cars they didn't really have all season that I remembered. The tires that come on the cars when sold new were worthless on snow so yes you always had to swap wheels.

My question is if the Genesis has decent all weather tires and you throw some weight in the trunk do you think a guy would get by on an occasional slick road?

Most the time I wouldn't be driving the Genesis on a crappy day anyway as I have other cars to abuse in the salt and sand. But if you happened to get caught in bad weather do you think you could get by?

After seeing the cost of the tire pressure monitors and then buying more wheels and tires its like "oh brother"! I figure the car while reasonable in price is still enough of an investment the way it is.

 

[BaywayRic]

So like does anyone know exactly what brand and type of tires that the Genesis comes with? Are they all season?

The tires on the tech V6 are P235/50R18 Dunlop SP Sport 5000M

 

[musher51]

Since I know for a fact that I'll be running snow tires throughout the winter, I exchanged messages with tirerack.com about when they expect to offer aftermarket wheels for Genesis, and here's their reply:

"We haven't gotten our hands on one of these yet to set up fitment.

Check back mid September and hopefully we will have by then.

thanks,

Wyatt Turak | Sales Specialist
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Tire Rack
7101 Vorden Parkway
South Bend, IN 46628
O: 888 428 8355 ext. 674
O: 574 287 2345 ext. 674"

It's occurred to me that I might be able to buy another set of wheels directly from Hyundai, too. In fact, if it turns out that wheels <18" are optimal for snow tires (ex: I ran 17"s on my 530i for summer, but 16"s for winter), there may be an opportunity to buy the std 17" wheels that come on the non-PP/non-Tech Genesis, which I kinda like better than the 18"s, anyway.

I'll post whatever I can find about aftermarket wheel availability as it comes in.

 

[musher51]

BTW, tirerack.com also had this to say about TPMS capability on a second set of wheels: "Also, regarding the having an additional package for the sensors, you would need to go to the dealershipto have the sensors initialized when switching tires."

I'm still confused by this, but I think I'll tee it up with the service dept guys at the dealership.

 

[RichieRichLancair]

I'll post whatever I can find about aftermarket wheel availability as it comes in.

Keep an eye on ebay. I got a set of four wheels and tires (less 200 miles) and TPMS for $700 + $90 shipping.

They had bought new wheels and tires. They show up about once a month.

 

[musher51]

Keep an eye on ebay. I got a set of four wheels and tires (less 200 miles) and TPMS for $700 + $90 shipping.

They had bought new wheels and tires. They show up about once a month.

What do you know about the manufacturer, specs, etc. on the wheels? Is this second set intended for winter tires? Are they the same diameter as your stock wheels?

Maybe I rely too much on tirerack's expertise, but if their database can't ID spec-compliant wheels, I'd be nervous about what I'm buying, particularly from a private third-party.

Great price, though! Hope it works out well, and thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye on ebay, for sure.

 

[awre]

Having lived in northern Wisconsin, Alaska and Montana most of my life (and not a short one at this point in time) I have never had a set of snow tires on a car. I have always used all-season tires on both rear and front wheel drive cars and never had a problem.

I never felt that snow tires would help that much on ice and in really deep snow I just would avoid driving until roads were either packed down (usually what they do in Alaska) or wait for the plows to come out in other areas. In few times I did drive in deep snow I found just keeping steady driving speed worked just fine.

With the fairly balanced front to rear weight distribution in the Genesis and stability control I imagine I would manage winter driving just fine without any snow tires.

I would certainly give it a try before considering purchase of snow tires.

 

[RichieRichLancair]

What do you know about the manufacturer, specs, etc. on the wheels? Is this second set intended for winter tires? Are they the same diameter as your stock wheels?

Maybe I rely too much on tirerack's expertise, but if their database can't ID spec-compliant wheels, I'd be nervous about what I'm buying, particularly from a private third-party.

Great price, though! Hope it works out well, and thanks for the tip. I'll keep an eye on ebay, for sure.

Original equipment. They put on new wheels and tires and sold the ones that came on the truck when they purchased it new.