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Any interest in DIY Transmission flush?

@NJTom did you end up getting the service done? Also the manual shows NWS-9638 for the transmission, could you shed some light on where you purchased it? Thanks!
I ended up going to the local dealer to have their master mechanic perform the tranny work. They dropped the pan, cleaned the filter screen and refilled with the OEM fluid. I watched much of the work being performed. The screen was fairly clean as well as the fluid for having 100k miles. I'm glad to have it completed. The transmission wasn't having any issues when I took it in and has been flawless since (4k miles).
 
Honestly, has there anyone that had transmission failure due to bad oil? I'm at 194k transmission shift fine and never changed the oil just because

1. it cost $1k+ to do it and 2. the technician says its not really need it as it is lifetime.

to me, if a dealership want to rip you off they wouldnt say that and would take on that job.
 
Honestly, has there anyone that had transmission failure due to bad oil? I'm at 194k transmission shift fine and never changed the oil just because

1. it cost $1k+ to do it and 2. the technician says its not really need it as it is lifetime.

to me, if a dealership want to rip you off they wouldnt say that and would take on that job.
From what I've heard from some mechanics, the whole "lifetime" is really meant to be the lifetime of the warranty. After that, they don't care about it because they're not responsible for anything. I was going to ask my mechanic about this.
 
I wanted to point out, the cost to perform the tranny pan drop, screen clean, gasket replaced and refill was under $300 total.
 
I wanted to point out, the cost to perform the tranny pan drop, screen clean, gasket replaced and refill was under $300 total.
That doesn't seem so bad!
 
It is a PITA, partially because I don't think they want DIY's doing it. I may never reach 100K miles on my 2009 (only 54,500 miles now), and it is a 100K mile item. The newer transmissions with synthetic fluid do not need to be changed very often, if ever (depending on driving conditions).
English please: PITA ? Always spell out acronymns for the public unless you are trying to keep it in code.
 
Hi guys,

Over the weekend I did a complete transmission flush, filter refresh, transmission pan\magnet cleaning, and transmission fluid change. To top it off, I also added a oil cooler to the radiator to assist in cooling the transmission fluid since I push my car pretty hard. Anyway to get to the point, I was wondering if anyone would be interested in me writing up a DIY guide on this. I don't want to put in the work if nobody would even care but would be more than happy to do so if it would benefit anyone. Please let me know when you have a moment yay or ne. Thanks.

EDIT: Guess I should add this was on a 2011 3.8.
How many of you have towed with this transmission ?
 
So I called my independent mechanic to inquire about pricing for draining the fluid and replacing the filter. He said the time would be $90 plus fluid and filter. He wasn't giving me a specific estimate but he said unless something was crazy expensive it would probably be around $160 to $175 which is one hell of a bargain in my opinion.

Guys and gals, leave the dealership if you can, it will save you tons of money.
 
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Honestly, has there anyone that had transmission failure due to bad oil? I'm at 194k transmission shift fine and never changed the oil just because

1. it cost $1k+ to do it and 2. the technician says its not really need it as it is lifetime.

to me, if a dealership want to rip you off they wouldnt say that and would take on that job.

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Education includes Auto shop in high school and one year working in an automatic transmission rebuild shop in Montreal Canada

The proper answer to your question is have you ever seen an automatic transmission shop in business ? Do they make good money ? Answer: yes, DOZENS in every city. If they are good, they are nonstop busy. Why does everybody purchase the extended warranty that covers modern automatics ?

Now if your real question is, how do Genesis transmissions transmissions look as they accumulate mileage, here are some guidelines. # 1 HOW DO YOU DRIVE ? People like me drive them for everyday simple trips and extended vacations. Heat build up, minimal. (There is a reason they are sealed, less moisture and dirt means fluid is contaminated less)

Heat soak, (comes with summer overloading, drag racing, or towing) means the fluid tends to run from June - Oct OVER 200 degrees F. especially in stop and go traffic. As soon as your average fluid temperature goes consistently ABOVE 185 F, it starts to degrade (usually visible in the color) proportional to temperature increase. It gets worse with the passing years.

There are other issues, too. The transmission shop I worked in always installed an additional in line filter/cleaner (1/3 strong magnet) during rebuilds to continue to clean lines returning from the radiator to handle transmission ''blow ups'' and ''hidden metal''. But the shop owner liked to remove them after 2 weeks - one month TO AVOID RESTRICTING OIL FLOW.

Which brings me to the subject of aftermarket cleaner automatic fluid filters and transmission coolers. I like both of them, BUT.

I was talking two weeks ago with an Aamco manager shop owner about my 2014 Genesis. He doesn't like to use an additional inline filter (normally just left there) and feels that these transmissions are not SO strong that nothing can go wrong. He believes that the built in filter ? part of the pan ? and factory magnets work just fine. He is worried about anything that might reduce or RESTRICT oil flow and hurt either the transmission pump or transmission itself.

So my gut feeling (and experience) is to go with the factory change and IF the pan is steel, AND if there is room, I would add an additional very powerful quality magnet to the bottom to catch and hold some additional ferrous metal. I might not want to add to additional items in the transmission oil flow. One, maybe, but not a transmission cooler and the popular magnetic filter cleaner upper, (except for one or two weeks)

One last thing that isn't discussed too much. Automatic transmission coolers, especially large capacity ones CAN OVERCOOL AND CAUSE PROBLEMS IN WINTER CLIMATES ! For this reason, they need some way to deal with that: either a bimetallic bypass valve (now things are getting more complicated ! ) or something else. Fluid at 22 F doesn't like to flow ! Think of the line as being blocked. The very first GM 700R4 transmissions with the 7 vane pumps actually could blow up on start up ! It is not an issue in 70 degree climates. My answer, a couple of years back was to purchase the Canadian made Dana automatic transmission cooler which has five tubes going horizontally from inlet to outlet. Here is how it works: the first 1/3 of the cooler has large holes and allows a large amount of fluid to bypass the cooler in freezing temperatures. The hole size in each of the tubes gradually becomes smaller, thus you avoid startup restriction, yet it works properly year round, because the Dana unit works well WITHOUT additional parts.
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a bimetallic bypass valve (now things are getting more complicated ! )

I agree with most of what you said except this part, they are very simple units. there are plenty of coolers available with the bypass valve built in or can pretty easily be added to a standard cooler. also that bimetallic valve works just the same as a coolant thermostat, once it reaches a certain temp it opens and closes once the temp drops, which we trust enough to keep the engine from overheating.
 
Now if only someone knew about the spark plugs for 09 genesis built after Mar 2009. :D
 
I agree with most of what you said except this part, they are very simple units. there are plenty of coolers available with the bypass valve built in or can pretty easily be added to a standard cooler. also that bimetallic valve works just the same as a coolant thermostat, once it reaches a certain temp it opens and closes once the temp drops, which we trust enough to keep the engine from overheating.
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Time and experience rules. Bi-metallic is usually simple and I probably would trust Dana or some other well known name. But the more things become complicated, the more Murphy's law kicks in. In commercial air conditioning, bi-metallic thermostats could give problems with the years and had to be hand calibrated once a year.
 
So that would be the Aisin 6-speed transmission used on the 2009-2011 Genesis V6 sedan. Aisin was a joint venture between Toyota and Borg-Warner to make RWD transmissions used in Lexus and other brands.
What transmission is used in the 2012 5.0? I thought it was Hyundai's in-house invention. I'm at 91,000 and will need a flush soon. Am I looking at a difficult DIY job or is this easier than the Aisin?
 
Anybody make a DIY or list all the components/fluid required to do this flush?
 
Anybody make a DIY or list all the components/fluid required to do this flush?
I’ve looked into it a little, since it’s the same transmission as what’s in BMW there are kits out there that come with the filter, gasket, and fluid. I haven’t had a chance to research if there’s anything else that needs to be included to complete the job yet.
 
Anybody make a DIY or list all the components/fluid required to do this flush?
If you don't mind not using ZF fluid, you can get LiquiMoly from RockAuto.com for $5.84 a liter and PartsGeek.com has the filter from ZF for $67.58. You may still need to get a gasket, but that's the cheapest price I've found for the parts.
 
the pan/filter, gasket, and new bolts can be had on Amazon for around $40-50.
 
the pan/filter, gasket, and new bolts can be had on Amazon for around $40-50.
I'd rather spend just a little more for the ZF pan. The ones on Amazon look like they've got some quality issues. To each their own.
 
I'd rather spend just a little more for the ZF pan. The ones on Amazon look like they've got some quality issues. To each their own.
I have a little over 10k on my pan from Amazon and have zero issues. but you're right, for the price difference it's not gonna hurt your wallet too bad for that extra piece of mind
 
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