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Joined the Club - 3.3T w/Elite Package

AdriaticBlueG70

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Genesis G70
Bought an Adriatic Blue G70 3.3T with Elite package on October 3rd, and took it on a 2,700 mile road trip. Price paid here in the Midwest, $44,190. Below are my impressions:

Engine, Transmission, and Brakes:

The engine is the best part of the car. In town and on the highway, Comfort mode feels quick, and I keep the car in that mode most of the time. However, on the highway, accelerating from 60 to 90 miles an hour can feel sluggish, until Sport mode is engaged. In Sport, the car has power at pretty much any speed. Accelerating from a stop in Sport mode is incredibly fun, and will throw you back in your seat. Launch control is also fun to play around with, but honestly, not that different than just taking off from a stop in Sport mode.

To my ears the engine note sounded the same with enhanced engine noise set to maximum, and off. Not sure if the setting does anything. I will say, the engine sounds nice under acceleration. Not nearly as good as the BMW straight 6...but better than any 4 cylinder out there.

The transmission is good, and mostly invisible (which is a good thing). I wish it was a little quicker on the downshifts, but honestly, that's a minor gripe. Sometimes theres some harshness when quickly shifting from reverse to drive. But it is very rare, and I can't reproduce it.

The brakes feel good, but braking sometimes causes the steering wheel to shake slightly. This comes and goes, and I think it is mostly gone now. I hear this was a real problem with the Stinger, and is affecting some G70s. Interested to hear others' experiences with the G70. If the issue comes back, and I can reliably reproduce it, I'll have the dealer fix it. This problem aside, though, the brakes are very confidence inspiring, and the best I've experienced in a car.

NVH:

Unlike the G80, this car, at least in Elite trim, does NOT have any acoustic glass, not even the windshield. However, it is pretty quiet up to 65 mph. After that, wind noise becomes quite pronounced. However, it is MUCH MUCH MUCH quieter than the 2014 Mazda 3 I am coming from.

For comparison, I was measuring 84 decibels at 65 MPH in the Mazda 3 on I-94. In the G70, I am measuring 54-58 decibels in the G70 at the same speed. It gets to 78 decibels around 85 mph.

All measurements were done with the "db" app on an iPhone Xs running iOS 13.

Technology:

The infotainment system is great, and works wonderfully. The only issue I had was that the built in SIM card did not work for a week, and then connected to a tower a week later, finally enabling me to use Genesis Connected Services. The app, however, is garbage. It is very slow, and the best thing about it is that it lets you remote start the car...when it works. Glad its free for 3 years. If the app improves, I might pay the $300/year they charge, but as it stands now, it is not worth it.

Radar cruise control works brilliantly. The best safety feature in my opinion is the lane keep assist. In the standard setting, it kind of bounces you between lanes, but steers for you, even in tight turns. However, in the "Active" setting, it keeps you between lanes perfectly. This was a great feature to have when on the 6th hour of a roadtrip, and greatly reduced fatigue levels. The downside is, of course, in this mode the steering wheel feels stiff, and it really won't let you do much unless you use a turn signal, lower the sensitivity, or turn it off.

The Defects:

The build quality is suspect. About 2000 miles in, whenever I have the "AC" button ON, there is a consistent hissing sound behind the dash, like gas moving/leaking through pipes. Almost sounds like I have snakes living behind the dash. At first the dealer said it's normal, then I got them to agree its not...since no G70 on their lot makes that noise. Next week they will do a complete system evacuation and recharge to see if it helps. If not, I will push them to do anything and everything to fix this. Not acceptable in such an expensive car.

The shiny vinyl siding on the driver's side B pillar (the driver's door) started ungluing and coming off. The dealer ordered a replacement, and will install next week.

There was a popping/tapping noise that could be heard over rough roads and speed bumps when driving at slow speeds, up to 20 miles an hour. I thought it was coming from the passenger side door or B pillar. My passenger thought it was coming from the backseat. Turns out it was the wide sunroof. I opened and closed it a few times, and the noise went away. Still, this is concerning. If it happens again, I will see if there are any screws I can tighten, and will apply grease to the rollers and other moving parts.

There is a very high frequency buzzing noise from the passenger side door. It could be the window, or the piece from which the passenger seatbelt hangs. It's mildly annoying, and I will see if greasing that part, or the window will reduce it. Any noises, even small ones, definitely make the car feel less solid than it is.
 
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Thanks for all the details! I know the side windows don't have acoustic/laminated glass, but does the windshield not have it either? How can you tell? I agree with your sound assessment though, until you hit 70-80+ MPH, wind noise isn't apparent.
 
Thanks for all the details! I know the side windows don't have acoustic/laminated glass, but does the windshield not have it either? How can you tell?
It does not. The “Acoustic” logo, in this case an ear, is not present in the windshield. However, that logo can clearly be seen on all the G80 windows.
 
Thanks for all the details! I know the side windows don't have acoustic/laminated glass, but does the windshield not have it either? How can you tell? I agree with your sound assessment though, until you hit 70-80+ MPH, wind noise isn't apparent.
Windshield does not have it. Genesis uses Saint-Gobain Sekurit glass all around. They have specific symbols for glass features. Acoustic glass has an ear symbol. None of the G70 glass has that symbol, whereas the windshield and side glass of the G80 do. The only symbol I see on the G70 is the one that looks like a thermometer, meaning it’s temperature control glass. The G80s have what seems like the fanciest glass with all the symbols/features.
 
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Windshield does not have it. Genesis uses Saint-Gobain Sekurit glass all around. They have specific symbols for glass features. Acoustic glass has an ear symbol. None of the G70 glass has that symbol, whereas the windshield and side glass of the G80 do. The only symbol I see on the G70 is the one that looks like a thermometer, meaning it’s temperature control glass. The G80s have what seems like the fanciest glass with all the symbols/features.

Nice. I had no idea about any of that. Good to know!
 
Is it possible to replace existing windshield and side window glass with acoustic glass? I know the side windows may be impossible because of the thickness tolerances, but I'm not sure and can't find any info on that sort of mod.
 
That was a much unbiased intuitive assessment. I’m embarrassed to say my love affair with the car might have clouded my opinion of its shortcomings. (Other than design compromises) Either way I can find nothing excessively objectionable so if love is blind let it be so. Other then design measures my car has been as solid as the other Genesis cars I’ve owned which is a good thing. I did own a Genesis Ultimate before this car so I can understand the difference in NVH. Good luck with the new car hope they sort out your concerns.
 
Is it possible to replace existing windshield and side window glass with acoustic glass? I know the side windows may be impossible because of the thickness tolerances, but I'm not sure and can't find any info on that sort of mod.

It definitely is. But honestly, I doubt it would be worth it. An OEM Genesis windshield is $700, plus install fees. If it were possible to do ALL the windows for that price, then maybe. Or, you know, just get a G80 in the first place.
 
There are a lot of rock chips where I live. Next time I get one, I wonder how I can combine a windshield insurance claim with getting an acoustic one...
 
Windshield does not have it. Genesis uses Saint-Gobain Sekurit glass all around. They have specific symbols for glass features. Acoustic glass has an ear symbol. None of the G70 glass has that symbol, whereas the windshield and side glass of the G80 do. The only symbol I see on the G70 is the one that looks like a thermometer, meaning it’s temperature control glass. The G80s have what seems like the fanciest glass with all the symbols/features.

Missed opportunity. I'd easily toss in a few extra bucks for a quieter car. Especially considering the exhaust isn't the most audible thing in the world anyways.
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The only symbol I see on the G70 is the one that looks like a thermometer, meaning it’s temperature control glass.

What exactly is temperature control glass? What is it supposed to do? First I've heard of it.
 
Did you ever figure out what that hissing was? My car does that too if the AC is on and the fan speed is set to low
 
The Defects (Updates!):

Rustling noise/Noise like air coming out in spurts behind the dashboard (sounds like its coming from the vents). This noise is most apparent when the fan/blower level is at 1 or 2 bars and the AC button is on. Although lately it has been happening even when the AC is off, but fan is at level 1 or 2. Pressing the AC button on and off really quickly seems to solve it. Almost like the car secretly had the compressor on, but the AC light was not on. If anyone knows what this could be, let me know. At the moment, Genesis of Glenview has basically told me to f**k off because I keep bringing this issue up.

The siding on the driver's side B pillar (the driver's door) started ungluing and coming off. The dealer ordered a replacement, and will install next week. Same thing happened on the passenger side a few weeks later.

A popping/tapping noise that could be heard over rough roads and speed bumps when driving at slow speeds, up to 20 miles an hour. I thought it was coming from the passenger side door or B pillar. Turns out it was the wide sunroof. I opened and closed it a few times, and the noise went away temporarily. I added some felt tape to certain metal to metal, and metal to plastic contact points on the sliding rail mechanism, and liberally sprayed white lithium grease. That fixed all sunroof noises.

There was a very high frequency buzzing noise from the passenger B-Pillar. Genesis of Glenview kept saying they could not replicate, and would not fix it. Then, I made them take apart the pillar tighten things up, and put it back together. That solved the issue, but they charged me $188. They also didn't put it back together right. I called corporate, got a refund, and forced them to put it back together correctly. High pitched buzzing gone. However, I had to endure one month of headaches, apathetic Hyundai corporate support agents, and a very angry service manager at Genesis of Glenview.

Yesterday, I noticed that over rough or uneven roads, there was a knocking sound, almost like glass on metal coming from right below my left ear, from the driver's side window edge. Holding the window helped with the noise, but not completely. Turns out it was the silver trim right above the door handle. Genesis of South Loop has the car as of today, and hopefully can fix it in a timely manner. See video link below. Make sure your speakers are turned up.

Trim Piece.mov
 
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Did you ever figure out what that hissing was? My car does that too if the AC is on and the fan speed is set to low
I haven't. I think there might not be enough refrigerant pressure, though. The car uses super expensive r1234yf. According to the dealer's paperwork, my car has 550kg (I think that's how they measure pressure) of the refrigerant. Spec is 570 +/- 25. So my level is on the low side. I'll see if a dealer is willing to put more refrigerant in to get it to 570, or maybe even 590.
 
I haven't. I think there might not be enough refrigerant pressure, though. The car uses super expensive r1234yf. According to the dealer's paperwork, my car has 550kg (I think that's how they measure pressure) of the refrigerant. Spec is 570 +/- 25. So my level is on the low side. I'll see if a dealer is willing to put more refrigerant in to get it to 570, or maybe even 590.

Interesting. If I recall correctly, I read somewhere on this forum that something like that may be the compressor just bypassing or something like that. Might be helpful to look into the reason for that to happen. (Just throwing ideas)
 
Welcome aboard. Nice job on the review and the troubleshooting of some noises (like the sunroof)!
You touched on at least two issues, the sunroof noise and the brake vibration, which have been discussed at length here in a couple of threads. It sounds like you fixed your roof issue.
You'll find that many of us have had the dealer replace the rotors, but only after they turn them first, which is apparently the Genesis protocol. You may want to read about the metallic pads, since the standard ceramic ones may not be up to the task (although some people seem to be fine after the rotors were turned or replaced).
 
The siding on the driver's side B pillar (the driver's door) started ungluing and coming off. The dealer ordered a replacement, and will install next week. Same thing happened on the passenger side a few weeks later.

I'm experiencing the same exact problem on my 2019 3.3t dynamic. A very odd coincidence, but I discovered the problem and read your post shortly after.

Would love to hear how the repair turns out. Excellent in-depth review!
 
The Defects (Updates!):
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There was a very high frequency buzzing noise from the passenger B-Pillar. Genesis of Glenview kept saying they could not replicate, and would not fix it. Then, I made them take apart the pillar tighten things up, and put it back together. That solved the issue, but they charged me $188. They also didn't put it back together right. I called corporate, got a refund, and forced them to put it back together correctly. High pitched buzzing gone. However, I had to endure one month of headaches, apathetic Hyundai corporate support agents, and a very angry service manager at Genesis of Glenview.
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See, this is the kind of crap Genesis needs to clean up. This message is to the Genesis of Glenview Service Manager, and Genesis Corporate whom I know reads this site daily:
Stop being a phallus. It's a brand new car. Rattles, buzzes, and pops are very much under the unpublished 10,000 mile warranty to fix. Fix the crap, file it under a warranty claim, and maybe then you won't have customers calling you out on the largest public Genesis forum in the USA, where current (and future potential) customers are reading- ESPECIALLY at a time when the brand (you know, the brand which you claim to represent which is paying your bills right now, is poised to take off when the GV80 arrives. To Genesis Corporate, first of all, get this cleaned up on the manufacturing end. Secondly, I know the whole Genesis dealership question has been a sticky point, but you're about to have a whole lot of customers who will not just be looking at the GV80, but they'll be taking a good, hard, look at all your models with the increased traffic. If you have a dealership who has a service manager that's not willing to address customer needs when the car is under warranty, then maybe it's time they get rid of that service manager, and if they're not ready to do that, maybe it's time to get rid of that dealership.
 
I tried pressing the chrome strip at the window that your movie showed. Mine deflects and makes a similar sound when it rebounds. It makes no sound while driving. I will monitor for now.
 
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