GV80 Reviews

[Beefer]

^ BS

I did a full comparison.

And it’s a “GV80”.

 

[TurtleBoy]

^ BS

I did a full comparison.

And it’s a “GV80”.

He is correct. If you add every option possible to the X5 40i it only comes up to $82,295. In order to have a $20k difference in MSRP you need to jump up to the M50i with the V8.

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Edit: What I got a kick out of the other day on the BMW forum when the GV80 and other competitors were being discussed is that a number of folks said the X5 was the value in this class and not the GV80 since right now, even disregarding the dealer markups, the X5 is less expensive given the discounts and incentives. I would imagine that will change in 6 months or so when the prices on the GV80 come down.

 

[Beefer]

He is correct. If you add every option possible to the X5 40i it only comes up to $82,295. In order to have a $20k difference in MSRP you need to jump up to the M50i with the V8.

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Edit: What I got a kick out of the other day on the BMW forum when the GV80 and other competitors were being discussed is that a number of folks said the X5 was the value in this class and not the GV80 since right now, even disregarding the dealer markups, the X5 is less expensive given the discounts and incentives. I would imagine that will change in 6 months or so when the prices on the GV80 come down.

Yeah...closer to $10k. I was calling BS on him moving the goal posts. Compare MSRP to MSRP.

He brought it down cheaper than the GV80. All cars have different incentives at different times.

 

[Aquineas]

That was a pretty fair review (although you could obviously tell they absolutely loved the Bentley- who wouldn't? lol). Disappointed to hear that the NVH hasn't improved on the 3.5. Genesis could learn a thing or two from tearing down Toyota's 3.5 V6.

 

[YEH]

^ Think the issue may be that a V6 is simply not going be as smooth as a straight-6 (plenty of other reviews haven't taken issue with the 3.5TT and have even complimented it for its sound compared to the 2.5T).

While an easy point of contention, the 2 really don't look anything alike.

Here's Motoman take on the 2.5T.

 

[Backslack]

That was a pretty fair review (although you could obviously tell they absolutely loved the Bentley- who wouldn't? lol). Disappointed to hear that the NVH hasn't improved on the 3.5. Genesis could learn a thing or two from tearing down Toyota's 3.5 V6.

The only Toyota equivalent to the Genesis 3.5 TT is the 3.4 TT in the LS500, which sounds terrible and isn't really any smoother or more fuel efficient. It's rated at some 50 HP more than the Genesis 3.5TT yet isn't any faster than the older G90 3.3T which weighs roughly the same as the LS500.

Even worse is that most of the sound from the Lexus TTV6 is fake engine noise that you can't turn off, unlike the Genesis.

I also have to hand it to Lexus for building an even worse 2.0L turbo than the ancient one in the G70, which was put in the GS 200t. A beyond gutless engine. Toyota makes great naturally aspirated engines, but their recent turbos are all flops.

 

[Aquineas]

The only Toyota equivalent to the Genesis 3.5 TT is the 3.4 TT in the LS500, which sounds terrible and isn't really any smoother or more fuel efficient. It's rated at some 50 HP more than the Genesis 3.5TT yet isn't any faster than the older G90 3.3T which weighs roughly the same as the LS500.

Even worse is that most of the sound from the Lexus TTV6 is fake engine noise that you can't turn off, unlike the Genesis.

I also have to hand it to Lexus for building an even worse 2.0L turbo than the ancient one in the G70, which was put in the GS 200t. A beyond gutless engine. Toyota makes great naturally aspirated engines, but their recent turbos are all flops.

Yeah consistent to your point, I didn't mean the TT; I meant the naturally aspirated 3.5 V6 that is in the IS350, which I've driven and is buttah smooth.

 

[mistersteve]

> Yeah consistent to your point, I didn't mean the TT; I meant the naturally aspirated 3.5 V6 that is in the IS350, which I've driven and is buttah smooth.

Well not the Lexus, I presume the naturally aspirated 3.5 V6 that is in my 2018 Sienna XLE is the same engine you are referring to (or at least for the 2018 Lexus models). I agree that it's a good engine with a lot of guts and very smooth (provided that the Toyota engine management system actually puts it in the right gear for performance rather than gas mileage once in a while). I've hated past turbo engines in past BMWs because of lag. This new 3.5TT in my GV80 doesn't seem to exhibit any annoying lag yet (only 300 miles on the car and haven't been on the highway).

 

[PMCErnie]

This is the highest MSRP I've seen, reported to be all the option packages from the factory.

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I think I’ll just cut my wrists.

 

[PMCErnie]

Just as with Doug Demuro's analysis, subjective ratings should never be factored in when determining the overall score and ratings of a car. I mean styling and fun factor ratings are so personal and subjective as to make them impossible to score. For instance I think the GV80 is the best looking SUV out there so I'd give it a 10 but Demuro gives it a 7 and then a 3 and a 4 for fun factor and cool factor, I mean come on. Meaningful categories such as depreciation, cost of ownership, initial cost, overall maintenance costs, initial and long term quality etc are more relevant categories that everyone can and should consider when evaluating the purchase of any vehicle. You then determine for yourself if styling, cool factor and fun to drive issues are relevant for you.

Doug is best watched with the volume off.

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[2021GCSGV80]

So my car got reviewed by my salesman Miguel yesterday. Please be kind.

 

[EdP]

So my car got reviewed by my salesman Miguel yesterday. Please be kind.

Better review than some of the other "pros".
I did not like the interior color at first glance but as the video went on, I started liking it.

 

[2021GCSGV80]

Better review than some of the other "pros".
I did not like the interior color at first glance but as the video went on, I started liking it.

Thank you! He's been the nicest guy, putting up with me either calling or texting him every two weeks since June. Never complained and always answered my calls right away or texted back really quickly. He was as excited about the car as I was to get here. So the least I could do was to take it back for him to do the video. The ones they are getting in don't have this interior so he really wanted to do this one. I just said I wanted to watch him shoot the video. So I got to be a fly on the wall for the afternoon, it was fun. He just hits the highlights as he likes to do short videos. I like his bloopers at the end. We had some great laughs over the course of a few hours shooting this.

As for the interior the sun was really bright that day so in the beginning of the video it does look a little orange. But it's not.

 

[YEH]

Micah drives the 3.5TT GV80 -

 

[Blitz118]

Savagegeese review.

 

[smiley47]

Savagegeese review.

This review does a much better job of discussing the mechanicals of the GV80 than any other I've watched. That starts around the 5:28 mark. Their driving impressions are not bad either.

 

[Backslack]

It's a great review as usual, but I'm surprised he didn't mention that the engines had both port and direct injection, which is what puts them over the Germans. Also, the GV80 does have a real mechanical LSD with proper torque vectoring and not by brakes as he claimed, but it's electronically controlled. I think he missed that because he only looked at the underbody of the 3.5T Advanced which didn't have it (it's only on the 3.5T Prestige).

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[Gurgeh]

Savagegeese review.

A pretty balanced review even if you disagree with his conclusions. He only had two substantive criticisms of the GV80: 1) for cost-savings Genesis swapped out the aluminum from the suspension in the G80 and replaced it with steel, creating a slightly heavier and less supple ride, and 2) the transmission is ever-so-slightly less crisp than what is found in the German makes, but only when used in manual (not automatic) mode. But honestly, few are going to spend much time pushing this vehicle around with paddle shifters. And on the transmission he also said it is a huge step up from past Genesis transmissions.
If you think about it, those criticism are pretty minor -- so minor that he notes that it would probably be impossible to even notice them if not driven back to back with the (slightly) better performing models. And then there are all the positives he cites.

Two final criticisms are brand related not impacting the quality or driving characteristics of the vehicle itself, but which may still suppress sales. The first, having to buy it from and be serviced in Hyundai stores is and will continue to be a major impediment in attracting well-off car buyers who are used to buying the competing German products. Frankly, it is one of my own turn-offs, though I still think I'll be buying this in a Prestige configuration when my current Lincoln Nautilus lease expires late this year. (And yes, I do go to a Lincoln-only dealer after having been turned off by several Ford/Lincoln dealerships.)

And then there is the brand name. He thinks that while it is, taking everything into consideration, fully competitive with the Germans in its $60-70k configurations (and $10k less), he thinks those buyers will care more about having a snobby name than saving money. Below that price point, with the 4-cylinder, he sees it competing more with Acura and Lexus and beating the pants off them. So he thinks the big sales will come at the lower end. I actually disagree with him, but I guess we'll find out; I have no particular patience with snobby names for snobby-names' sake. Nevertheless, he does explain his reasoning well.

 

[AJB]

A pretty balanced review even if you disagree with his conclusions. He only had two substantive criticisms of the GV80: 1) for cost-savings Genesis swapped out the aluminum from the suspension in the G80 and replaced it with steel, creating a slightly heavier and less supple ride, and 2) the transmission is ever-so-slightly less crisp than what is found in the German makes, but only when used in manual (not automatic) mode. But honestly, few are going to spend much time pushing this vehicle around with paddle shifters. And on the transmission he also said it is a huge step up from past Genesis transmissions.
If you think about it, those criticism are pretty minor -- so minor that he notes that it would probably be impossible to even notice them if not driven back to back with the (slightly) better performing models. And then there are all the positives he cites.

Two final criticisms are brand related not impacting the quality or driving characteristics of the vehicle itself, but which may still suppress sales. The first, having to buy it from and be serviced in Hyundai stores is and will continue to be a major impediment in attracting well-off car buyers who are used to buying the competing German products. Frankly, it is one of my own turn-offs, though I still think I'll be buying this in a Prestige configuration when my current Lincoln Nautilus lease expires late this year. (And yes, I do go to a Lincoln-only dealer after having been turned off by several Ford/Lincoln dealerships.)

And then there is the brand name. He thinks that while it is, taking everything into consideration, fully competitive with the Germans in its $60-70k configurations (and $10k less), he thinks those buyers will care more about having a snobby name than saving money. Below that price point, with the 4-cylinder, he sees it competing more with Acura and Lexus and beating the pants off them. So he thinks the big sales will come at the lower end. I actually disagree with him, but I guess we'll find out; I have no particular patience with snobby names for snobby-names' sake. Nevertheless, he does explain his reasoning well.

I agree. I purchased the Prestige Package, paid $72,000+ for it. I was treated like I was buying a bargain basement price Hyundai. Genesis really needs to correct this if they want to seriously compete with the big guns out there. Honestly it was a real turnoff. As soon as I signed all the paperwork my salesperson said thank you and saying goodbye. I said hold on, aren't you going to go over the vehicle and all the features and controls with me? She said of course but it was obvious she was rushing and just wanted to be done with me. This is my first Genesis and besides this GV80 I've been buying Infinitis since 1998 and it was a totally different buying experience including the showroom and waiting area.

 

[dwcunn]

We bought our GV80 today.............had ordered it 9 months ago...........delivery was terrific and SUV is even better!