Fog Lights Bulb Size ****CRITICAL UPDATE****

[PINGGOLF]

REAL QUICK...

The position lights that we changed out. They have a plastic housing and THEY MELT!

If you install these little jewels in your headlights DO NOT use your high beams for an extended period.

I noticed mine flickering the other night. I got out and looked closely and they were seared!

Just an FYI---hence the reason for the OEM GLASS bulbs.

 

[PINGGOLF]

Well...DAM!!! (spelling error was to keep it clean)

My foglights have melted AGAIN!!!!

2 months ago, I removed the HID yellow fogs because of a bad/cheap ballast. I then put some OEM autozone special bulbs in H8 35 watts...until I get some new HID's.

THEY MELTED THE HOUSINGS!!!! I took a long trip over the weekend and when pulling up to my friends garage in Chunky, MS, I noticed the fog light beam pattern was scattered all over the place. I got out of the car, looked at the housings...and said a handful of cuss words while my wife and child were still inside the car. I couldnt believe it!

So today...I called the almighty Hyundai USA. After waiting on the phone (clocked at 18 min 28 sec) I finally got a hold of DANNY, a service rep at Hyundai USA Headquarters. I gave him the spill of how this was my 2nd issue with this and how I had to purchase my first set of replacement housings because I was denied a warranty replacement due to my unintentional installation of a higher wattage bulb.

I have officially received a case number: 3918955 !!!!!

Friday, I will be visiting the Newly RE-opened Hyundai of Decatur for a full inspection.

Here are my latest issues:

1.) Housings Melted
2.) Radio going in and out with weird noises (caught on video for proof)
3.) Sunroof SQUEEKS
4.) Paint Bubble on front bumper

SERVICE's due:

1.) Oil Change
2.) Tire rotation
3.) Alignment

Anywho, Friday is a BIG DAY for me and the newly opened dealership....I hope its a good experience...otherwise, I may have to rip them a new one...HA!

 

[ctrcbob]

You got something wrong going on there.

I also have Yellow 35 watt H8 Bulbs (Nokia Brand). They are on whenever I have the headlights on. NO PROBLEMS. They are exactly like the OEM H8 bulbs except they are Yellow.

1. You talk about your "previuos HID bulbs having a bad ballast. I assume that using your H8 bulbs is not also with the ballast.

2. Are you sure you used H8 bulbs and not H9 or H11, as they all look the same, but the H11 will be a lot hotter than the H8.

3. Why did you go to AutoZone to buy new temporary bulbs. Why didn't you just use the original OEM bulbs that came with the car? Although I am using Yellow H8 bulbs, the OEM bulbs are sitting in a package in my trunk and if one of my Yellow bulbs burns out, I will replace it with the OEM bulb until I get new Yellow bulbs.

Not sure why you decided to replace the OEM Fog Light bulbs in the first place, because the Fog Lamps are really just so cars can see you, as in fog, as they are only on with the headlights, and "fog" will get reflected back to your eyes from the headlights anyway. Once they see the modifications you made, well,,,,,,,,, don't be surprised if they refuse you warranty work.
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New subject. In your previous post, you mentioned the "position lamps" that you changed out, located in the High Beam housing melted. Well, when you first posted that you were replacing the "position lamps" I think they are 194 lamps, you said that you were replacing with LED bulbs. If that is what you did, yes, they will melt the housing. When you first reported that you were going to go with the LED position lamps, I checked the websites for those same LED lamps, and the manufacturers said not to use them close to high heat lamps, (I.E. - High beam lamps) as it will melt the LED lamps.
Needless to say, I never replaced my position lamps.
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Nice to think that I can improve what Hyundai designed, but I'm not going to do anything to kill my warranty.

Sorry for your lighting problems.

 

[PINGGOLF]

1. You talk about your "previuos HID bulbs having a bad ballast. I assume that using your H8 bulbs is not also with the ballast.

You are correct. I had installed some H8 Yellow HID's. A ballast went bad and caused one side to shine a DULL yellow while the other shined nice and bright. I removed them and installed some cheap H8 35 watt bulbs from autozone.

2. Are you sure you used H8 bulbs and not H9 or H11, as they all look the same, but the H11 will be a lot hotter than the H8.

You are correct. They all look the same but only one will fit into the receptacle. I called Hyundai to verify the part number before the I purchased the bulbs.

3. Why did you go to AutoZone to buy new temporary bulbs. Why didn't you just use the original OEM bulbs that came with the car? Although I am using Yellow H8 bulbs, the OEM bulbs are sitting in a package in my trunk and if one of my Yellow bulbs burns out, I will replace it with the OEM bulb until I get new Yellow bulbs.

I chunked them in the trash because they had my neighbors kids fingerprints all over the glass. They would have blown in a matter of seconds because the natural oil on his hands.

Not sure why you decided to replace the OEM Fog Light bulbs in the first place, because the Fog Lamps are really just so cars can see you, as in fog, as they are only on with the headlights, and "fog" will get reflected back to your eyes from the headlights anyway. Once they see the modifications you made, well,,,,,,,,, don't be surprised if they refuse you warranty work.

True...but my personal preference is to have them on at all times...as with the headlights. The color is just a nice touch to an exceptional vehicle. Also, there is no "modification" visually or mechanically that they can prove to deny my warranty. The ballast from the HID's were ty wrapped, no additional wiring, drilling, sanding or anything was done. Just a clean bulb change took place.

New subject. In your previous post, you mentioned the "position lamps" that you changed out, located in the High Beam housing melted. Well, when you first posted that you were replacing the "position lamps" I think they are 194 lamps, you said that you were replacing with LED bulbs. If that is what you did, yes, they will melt the housing. When you first reported that you were going to go with the LED position lamps, I checked the websites for those same LED lamps, and the manufacturers said not to use them close to high heat lamps, (I.E. - High beam lamps) as it will melt the LED lamps.
Needless to say, I never replaced my position lamps.

You are correct...AFTER I emailed the LED dealer of whom I purchased the LED's from and told him about the issues. They then proceeded to add the disclaimer. I have also sent private messages to those sellers on EBAY who offer LED position lights for the Genesis sedan. They refuse to add the disclaimer because I have not given them proof that mine actually melted. I pulled them out and threw them away.

This time it is officially a warranty issue. According to Danny and Hyundai USA...it does not matter what brand of bulb you replace the OEM with. What does matter is if your selection varies from OEM equipment. Say an H8 125 watt, for example. The last time this happened, I purchased the wrong bulbs...which was my mistake and I took full responsibility.

Thanks for your comments Bob!

 

[Disaster]

Originally Posted by ctrcbob
Not sure why you decided to replace the OEM Fog Light bulbs in the first place, because the Fog Lamps are really just so cars can see you, as in fog, as they are only on with the headlights, and "fog" will get reflected back to your eyes from the headlights anyway.

True...but my personal preference is to have them on at all times...as with the headlights. The color is just a nice touch to an exceptional vehicle.

With respect to crtcbob's post, the fog lights are for helping you see in the fog. They are a detriment in normal, faster driving conditions. Using HID's and running them all the time is the worst thing you can do for night vision. It lights up the foreground far too much and blinds other drivers (because the housings were never designed for HIDs.)

If you don't care to have fog lights, and instead, want to use them as decoration at least chose a bulb that won't destroy your night vision and that of other drivers.

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/tech/lights/fog_lamps/fog_lamps.html

The fog lamps' job is to show you the edges of the road, the lane markings, and the immediate foreground. When used in combination with the headlamps, good fog lamps weight the overall beam pattern towards the foreground so that even though there may be a relatively high level of upward stray light from the headlamps causing glareback from the fog or falling rain or snow, there will be more foreground light than usual without a corresponding increase in upward stray light, giving back some of the vision you lose to precipitation.

When used without headlamps in conditions of extremely poor visibility due to snow, fog or heavy rain, good fog lamps light the foreground and the road edges only, so you can see your way safely at reduced speeds.

In clear conditions, more foreground light is not a good thing, it's a bad thing. Some foreground light is necessary so you can use your peripheral vision to see where you are relative to the road edges, the lane markings and that pothole 10 feet in front of your left wheels. But foreground light is far less safety-critical than light cast well down the road into the distance, because at any significant speed (much above 30 mph), what's in the foreground is too close for you to do much about. If you increase the foreground light, your pupils react to the bright, wide pool of light by constricting, which in turn substantially reduces your distance vision

 

[scottdk]

PING, I think the factory foglight bulbs are 27 watts....I know my Sonata's are 27 watts.

Maybe 35 watts is just too much for the housing to handle? If this is true it's sad, since it's only an 8 watt increase.

Anyway, let us know what you find out

 

[RonP]

If you just want yellow fog lights, try, www.lamin-x.com They have the yellow protective film, cut to size for the car. I ordered mine yesterday. You not only get the yellow look, but an extra measure of stone protection. On previous car a stone hit the fog light, cost $150.00 to replace the entire unit, glass was not avaliable alone and it was not user frinedly to install.........just a thought.

 

[Mark_888]

If you just want yellow fog lights, try, www.lamin-x.com They have the yellow protective film, cut to size for the car. I ordered mine yesterday. You not only get the yellow look, but an extra measure of stone protection. On previous car a stone hit the fog light, cost $150.00 to replace the entire unit, glass was not avaliable alone and it was not user frinedly to install.........just a thought.

Stupid questions:

1. I noticed that price is $14.95 for the Genesis fog light covers. Is that $14.95 for each one, or per pair?
2. Any idea how much the film (applied on top of the bulb) would prevent heat dissipation, and cause possible heat overload of the bulb?
3. I thought that the Genesis fog light bulbs sit behind a clear plastic window on the bumper? Wouldn't that mean that no stone protection is needed on the bulb itself? I don't have access to my Genesis right now, so maybe I am wrong about the plastic cover in front of the fog light bulbs.

Let us know how it works out after you install and test it.

 

[RonP]

The film is $14.95 for 2, if you go to their site, they have a video showing it installed. It fits over the plastic cover of the fog lamp, Will let you know how it works out after I get it.....

 

[ctrcbob]

PING, I think the factory foglight bulbs are 27 watts....I know my Sonata's are 27 watts.

Maybe 35 watts is just too much for the housing to handle? If this is true it's sad, since it's only an 8 watt increase.

Anyway, let us know what you find out

The OEM bulbs are White H8 Bulbs. All H8 Bulbs are 35 watt. (H9 or H10, not sure which exists) and H11 are higher wattage, although they look exactly like the H8.

I keep my Yellow H8 Fog Lamps on all the time, whenever my headlights are on. Never had an iota of problems with them. I keep them on, not because there it fog, but because the contrast of the yellow looks great with the bright HID headlights being on.

(I would love to be able to put the fogs on with only the parking lights on, but that is not the way the Genesis was designed, so at night, or VERY low light situations like rain storms, its HID headlights and Yellow Fogs on - in slightly low light situations, like overcase cloudy days, its just the Parking Lamps with the position lamp bulb located in the high beam reflector being on - Sunny days, no front lamps on).

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[vega]

What tool do you use to make the vertical adjustment on the HID? I tried a long slot screw driver ( small head), it goes what feels like all the way down, but I cannot feel anything like a slot to turn the adjuster.

thanks in advance

 

[vega]

What tool do you use to make the vertical adjustment on the HID? I tried a long slot screw driver ( small head), it goes what feels like all the way down, but I cannot feel anything like a slot to turn the adjuster.

thanks in advance

I answered my own question, its a #2 philips.

 

[crhbobby]

Hello everyone.

I apologize for bringing these thread up from the dead. Today, I had a fog light out, and decided to head to autozone for an H8 replacement.

I got home...started to change out the factory bulb...and apparently my housing has melted also..

Attached is a picture... I am going to call the dealer sometime this week.

Bob Hall

 

[jastylr]

Re: Fog lights bulb size

Will do. Its really simple. Just get on the ground directly in front of your front tires. Look UP. You will see either 3-4 little plastic BLACK phillips head screws. LOOSEN THE SCREWS ONLY...do not remove the screw from the plastic. Once the screws are loose gently pull the WHOLE PLASTIC Piece from the cover. Once you have removed the screws you can pull the cover towards the REAR of the car and it should pop out just enough to change the bulb.

Look up and to your left and you will see the bulb cocked to one side. To remove it simply turn the whole bulb to the DOWN position and then pull it out.

Ill make some pictures. I was going to last night but I have to go buy a firewire for my new camera...

Thanks for the info! I just noticed the other day that one of my fog bulbs was out and this thread will save me some time.

 

[LouKango]

Sorry for reviving this old thread. I didnt feel I needed to start a new thread for this question. I installed Nokya H8 yellow 35 watt and it's been used for about a week and looks great. No melting issues. However, how do you adjust the height level of these fog lights? I found the gear that was shown on schematic on page 2 but it's almost impossible to turn it. How do you turn the gear?

Thank you.

 

[deejank]

Sorry for reviving this old thread. I didnt feel I needed to start a new thread for this question. I installed Nokya H8 yellow 35 watt and it's been used for about a week and looks great. No melting issues. However, how do you adjust the height level of these fog lights? I found the gear that was shown on schematic on page 2 but it's almost impossible to turn it. How do you turn the gear?

Thank you.

yo liu kang why do you need to adjust the height? did you find the angle of the lighting different than before you installed it? let johnny cage know aite?

 

[LouKango]

Hehe. I think it was a faulty bulb. I took those nokya bulbs out and installed luminic yellow bulbs and the angles were perfect. No adjustments needed. Now I have DDM 35watt 3000k HIDs on the way.

 

[LouKango]

DDM 3000k yellow slim 35watt fogs installed. Looks great! Much brighter. No reverse polarity problem, no flickering and nice cut off. Hopefully it'll last me a longtime.

 

[nsanow]

DDM 3000k yellow slim 35watt fogs installed. Looks great! Much brighter. No reverse polarity problem, no flickering and nice cut off. Hopefully it'll last me a longtime.

Is this a plug and play change? I have a 2012 4.6 and was wanting a brighter fog light. Is there a specific part number?

 

[deejank]

Is this a plug and play change? I have a 2012 4.6 and was wanting a brighter fog light. Is there a specific part number?

Foglights are H8 size 35W bulbs. here's a picture of my nokya 2500K fog lights http://imgur.com/a/jVQ0A#0