Alignment?

[jcs]

My Hyundai Genesis is pulling to the left...

My steering pulls slightly to the left at highway speed when I am in the left most lane (which is where I spend most of my driving time). I am sure this is related to the crown in the road, but I have no right pull when I am on the right side of the crown. I had the dealer check the alignment and they told me that the camber of one of the rear tires was off slightly and they corrected it. I guess it is now a little better, but I still have to keep constant pressure on the steering wheel to go straight in the fast lane . Very annoying. I will have them check it again, and maybe over compensate on the camber in the front to see if that works. I wonder if the stock tires (which other have complained about) contribute to the problem. I should also mention that I never had this issue with my BMW. The car always ran straight in any lane and cornered beautifully.

 

[JOwest]

Re: Rough Ride (rear)

However, I do have a related issue that bothers me. My steering pulls slightly to the left at highway speed when I am in the left most lane (which is where I spend most of my driving time). I am sure this is related to the crown in the road, but I have no right pull when I am on the right side of the crown. I had the dealer check the alignment and they told me that the camber of one of the rear tires was off slightly and they corrected it. I guess it is now a little better, but I still have to keep constant pressure on the steering wheel to go straight in the fast lane . Very annoying. I will have them check it again, and maybe over compensate on the camber in the front to see if that works. I wonder if the stock tires (which other have complained about) contribute to the problem. I should also mention that I never had this issue with my BMW. The car always ran straight in any lane and cornered beautifully.

I have the same problem with mine while driving on the left lane. My Audi track straight no matter which lane I was driving.

 

[dshelley]

Interesting reading of those that pull to the left. My 3.8 with close to 4,000 miles seems to ever so slightly pull to the right. I drove it from my home a few miles south of memphis to Charleston SC and back over Thanksgiving and noticed this for the first time. This was the first out of town trip we've taken with it, typically my wife drives it to her work, about 20 mile round trip and has never mentioned it. Will take it to the dealer soon for an oil change and will talk to the service guys then.

 

[gipp]

Re: Rough Ride (rear)

I have also noticed the need to exert pressure on the steering wheel to keep the 4.6 tech straight. Mostly to the left but also occasionally to the right. I have assumed this was an over sensistivity to the crowning of the roads as it has been difficult to replicate-seems to be totally road dependent. But this is a very annoying issue unlike anything I have ever experienced in any other car.

When I mentioned this to the service advisor he commented on possible alignment issues and then said something I have never heard before- He claimed that the alignment was definitely weight sensative and that is was calibrated at the factory for average person weight of 150 lbs. He said that if you weigh 225 lbs. that could account for the need to keep pressure on the wheel until the alignment was dialed in for you specificially.

Any comments or thoughts? Has anyone ever heard of the need to be weighed when they bought a car? Or, is the service advisor looking just to add some warranty bucks to his paycheck? I am planning to have the oil changed when the plates come in and will ask about the alignment TSB also but I would like to know if I should have any level of trust with this service adviosr from the start.

 

[jcs]

Re: Rough Ride (rear)

The weight comment sounds ridiculous to me. I weigh 170 lbs. and when I am alone in the car it still pulls to the left.

 

[JOwest]

Re: Rough Ride (rear)

I don't trust that servcie advisor. If the car is so sensitive to weight every time you change driver or having different number of passengers in the car you need re-alignment?.There seems to be quite a few owners experiencing this. I don't think these are isolated cases.

 

[jonah]

Hmmm...drove my V8 to Memphis this weekend and actually rode about a 1/4 mile with out even touching the steering wheel.

I think mine is dead on!

I feel for everyone who is having trouble with this issue!! What a pain to have such a great car marred by misalighment...

Having said that, I have to also say that I'm totally surprised to hear about this because I have always thought that the car was dead-on-balls straight. I can't believe there's enough variation in a car like this to produce the kind of pulling some are talking about. I hope they get it fixed for everyone, good luck!! keep us updated!

 

[Gimli]

Having said that, I have to also say that I'm totally surprised to hear about this because I have always thought that the car was dead-on-balls straight.

I would think that they probably all leave the factory dead on but the combination of boat, train and truck transport can and will affect alignment if the car is submitted to a lot of movement while tied down or if it's not properly tied down.

 

[Calvin]

I only have around 450 miles on my car but half of that was on the Interstate. So far she tracks and feels just right. I went almost a quarter of a mile straight down the lane at 75 mph with no correction to the wheel (no other cars around!). I did accidentally hit a good size pot hole today so I'll take her out on the Interstate over the weekend to see if anything changed.

 

[HMA]

The TSB is for the alignment spec's, that's all, and it's for all 2009 HMA products, not just the Genesis.
I have been driving a Genesis for over 6 months now all without a problem.

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[DanTheMan]

The TSB is for the alignment spec's, that's all, and it's for all 2009 HMA products, not just the Genesis.
I have been driving a Genesis for over 6 months now all without a problem.

Ditto....(except it's only been five months for me)! Drives straight as an arrow down the highway.

 

[Sonata2009]

Mine too. After 2400 miles to Texas and back, I was continually amazed at the straight line stability on the highway. No adjustments needed for quite a while while crusing along at 70.

 

[Gold Z]

Mine pulls to the right and needs constant pressure to keep it going straight. I haven't had time to take it into the dealer yet.

 

[rmwweb]

I was having a problem with mine pulling to the left most of the time but every now and then (when I was in the right hand lane) it would pull to the right. After changing to winter tires the problem has disappeared. The car now tracks just fine. Don't know if anyone else has had a similar experience but for those who change to winter tires, it would be good to hear if it changes the alignment, for the better or the worse.

Cheers
RW

 

[JOwest]

It sure sounds like the Dunlop tires are the real evil in rough rides, alignment, and pulling to either side. So, can we say the Genesis is a fantastic car spoiled by cheap tires?

 

[VaiFan]

It sure sounds like the Dunlop tires are the real evil in rough rides, alignment, and pulling to either side. So, can we say the Genesis is a fantastic car spoiled by cheap tires?

No, we can't say that.
Mine rides very nice, and does not pull to either side. And not only that, the Dunlops handle great through corners with very little slipping in wet or dry weather.
I'm very happy with the tires and the car.

 

[3587]

So, for those that are having pulling issues... What exactly is the dealership doing to fix this if anything?

 

[crepen]

My experience:

"Pulling" seems to be very related to the road - it just seems to be more sensitive to crown than anything I've ever driven. Dealer has no answer.
Changing to Yokohama W.drive winter tires on the V6 18" wheels seems to have reduced the pulling, but I till think it has poor on-centre tracking.

"Bouncing" on rough roads (I have not experienced the "resonance" on expansion joints) is still there with the winter tires - maybe a little bit better. I really have to be pushing it, and the road has to be very heaved/rolling/wretched. I also think that the feedback through the steering wheel is more extreme than what the chassis is actually doing - I will be startled by the feeling, but the car is still doing just fine.

YMMV.

I have Canadian V6 with Premium package, Yoko W.drives on 18" Hyundai wheels.

cmr

 

[Calvin]

I have had no problem with pulling to one side or the other. I actually feel that my Geny tracks better than a 560 SEL I use to own! I think the feed back through the steering is just right for me, it feels alot like a 528 I had in the past and I drove that car coast to coast at least twice. I may need to drive my car alot more but for now I am extremely happy with the tires, suspension and steering. Just my 2 cents worth.

 

[rmwweb]

One thing that may be coming into play here is location. I'm thinking there's a trend developing with more suspension/ride/alignment and tire issues with cars in the northern States & Canada than are being reported in the south.

I have no idea why this would affect alignment but I do know that the roads tend to be quite a bit rougher in the north simply due to cracking and heaving during the freeze/thaw cycles that happen for several months every year. If you don't have tar strips filling in the cracks every few feet, the car doesn't have to deal with them. There is no question that the Genesis performs very well on smooth pavement, and it is the quietest car I've ever owned. So when you start hitting the cracks and tar strips the intrusion of the noise is all the more apparent.

Don't get me wrong, I know that Florida and California etc., have their share of bad roads, I'm just saying that their "share" is smaller than northern NY or in Ontario.

Just a thought that might partially help explain the wild variations in satisfaction with the ride etc.

RW