2010 V6 or V8 or just wait for a 2011?

[DavidNJ]

Yep. Been there, done that. It definitely takes an adjustment to switch from other cars to a Genesis.

I used to own a Toyota Supra that had a lot of power, but it wasn't in the same league with the Genesis. I've driven my wife's BMW 330xi, but it can't touch the Genesis. My wife used to own a twin-turbo Dodge Stealth; it had a lot of power once you got the turbines spinning at high RPM, but it was sluggish at low RPM coming off a stop. There's nothing like a big V8 to get you moving.

I've always held the position "You can't have too much power in a car". Well, the 4.6 may not be too much power, but it is more than enough for me.

I find it challenging to drive my Genesis below 40 MPH. The throttle is barely cracked. The difference in foot position between 30 MPH and 40 MPH is barely perceptable. That's one of the reasons I use smart cruise control on 40 MPH roads. Heck, even at 75 MPH, it's only turning at 2000 RPM.

It is my opinion that many cars have too much power. Spark ignition engines, where the power is regulated by restricting air flow, are very inefficient at part throttle. These over powered cars contribute to that. The peak power numbers occur at fairly high RPM and wide open throttle.

The times you can run the V8 at wide open throttle are few and far between. In the Genesis that would be from around 25-75mph, foot to the floor. Even then, at 25mph and again after 1-2 shift at 40, the Genesis is down around the 250 hp level.

To me, street engines over 2L should be diesel. Their power curve is flat. Their torque curve peaks where you are actually driving. And because the throttle is always wide open (power is controlled by regulating the amount of fuel) they are much more efficient.

With US cars big V8s became popular because the engines were both very rough at high engines speeds (low manufacturing tolerances) and very inefficient (pushrod valvetrains, primitive carburation and fuel injection systems). Big displacement let them work acceptably at low RPM

Sidebar: Balancing by 1973 Pinto (in 1974) turned a rough 2L to an engine as smooth as any BMW.

 

[jrw89144]

The V8 asside from the power gives you auto dim outside mirrors. I just purchased a V8 from Costco. Costco and Hyundai have a deal going on till the end of May, whereby you get dealer cost less 3% off the MSRP and a $500 Costco gift card. In total I got $5,156 off the MSRP price of $43,985, not too bad of a deal. This is a special deal on the Genesis only, check it out on Costco.com.

 

[XBOHDPuKC]

The V8 asside from the power gives you auto dim outside mirrors. I just purchased a V8 from Costco. Costco and Hyundai have a deal going on till the end of May, whereby you get dealer cost less 3% off the MSRP and a $500 Costco gift card. In total I got $5,156 off the MSRP price of $43,985, not too bad of a deal. This is a special deal on the Genesis only, check it out on Costco.com.

Don't forget 1500 competitive vehicle cash back and 250 for hyundai circle... i got it down to 37.7 before TTL. Kinda good deal I figured for a car with MSRP of 43.8

 

[DavidNJ]

Hyundai Circle Plan A works when an individuals who qualify for the Hyundai Circle vehicle purchase program are eligible to purchase new Hyundai vehicles for the following price:
• Dealer Invoice
• Less 3% of MSRP
• Less Current Consumer Rebate (if any)
• Less Hyundai Circle Cash (if any)
• Plus Freight
• Plus Advertising Fee

Any idea how much the advertising fee is?

A V-6 is $41,000 MSRP, 3% is $1230. Invoice is $38,220.

So $38,220, minus $1230, minus $1500 competitive owner, minus $500 from Costco, plus advertising, plus $800 freight = $35,790 plus advertising ($1000?) for a Tech package V6.

 

[Disaster]

Any idea how much the advertising fee is?

A V-6 is $41,000 MSRP, 3% is $1230. Invoice is $38,220.

So $38,220, minus $1230, minus $1500 competitive owner, minus $500 from Costco, plus advertising, plus $800 freight = $35,790 plus advertising ($1000?) for a Tech package V6.

$1000 is a cr_pload of advertising. The advertising fee is supposed to cover the dealer's expense that he might already have spent advertising the car in the paper, or TV..etc. It is not supposed to be profit padding. I doubt any dealer spends $1000 per vehicle in advertising. If they did, they wouldn't last long.

 

[Socrates]

For the relatively modest difference in price and gas mileage, I really wanted to like the V8. But having driven both cars several times, I prefer the precision and refinement of the V6 to the brute power of the V8. I also prefer the V6 full leather wrapped steering wheel to the V8's wood grain on top. But if do end up with the V6, I'll miss the V8's cool lit door sills!

 

[Mark_888]

But if do end up with the V6, I'll miss the V8's cool lit door sills!

I believe that you can install that as an after-market item with OEM parts. Try Korean Auto Parts.

 

[XBOHDPuKC]

Any idea how much the advertising fee is?

A V-6 is $41,000 MSRP, 3% is $1230. Invoice is $38,220.

So $38,220, minus $1230, minus $1500 competitive owner, minus $500 from Costco, plus advertising, plus $800 freight = $35,790 plus advertising ($1000?) for a Tech package V6.

Advertising is anywhere between 100 and 200. Don't deduct Costco cash here as it will be a separate dealing with Costco. Also 3% are taken off of MSRP + delivery charge, so your base MSRP will be 41800.