2015 Hyundai Genesis 5.0 lower front timing cover replacement

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Tell me about it. O-rings, really!!!

However, it could be the AC manifold gauge line o-rings I am using that is the source of the vacuum leak like mention earlier.

I am still debating about trading in the Genesis if I find a used newer car that I like over it. Most other newer(2017+) luxury cars has some issue as well or are just boring to look at and drive compared to the Genesis 5.0.


I sort of like the 2019+ Lexus ES f-sport, but it is hard to find a used low mileage model with the upgraded packages(HUD, high audio system) which make it more of a downgrade compared to my Genesis with the ultimate package.


I like the newer 2017+ Mercedes E450 models, but again the top end packages are rare to find used and the 3.0 turbo engine may have some issues.

So I will probably just keep the Genesis a bit longer and try to sort out the AC issue.

The good news is that my Xtool D8 scan tool does work on the Genesis for module programming, transmission calibrations,key programming, etc. So I can perform some detail repair work like reverse sensor module repair or transmission replacement on the Genesis if need be; if the parts are available.

Yeah - the 5.0 Ultimate is kind of a unicorn that way... Frankly, I wouldn't touch a used Mercedes or BMW for that matter. Nowadays, they seem to be built to last to the end of the lease.

It's kinda off topic but have you ever used a scan tool to reset the adaptive values in the transmission?

 

[carguy75]

Yeah - the 5.0 Ultimate is kind of a unicorn that way... Frankly, I wouldn't touch a used Mercedes or BMW for that matter. Nowadays, they seem to be built to last to the end of the lease.

It's kinda off topic but have you ever used a scan tool to reset the adaptive values in the transmission?

True.

I like the E450, but I am leery of the twin turbo setup reliability. Mercedes turbo engines can get very expensive to repair due to part cost and how much work is needed to access the turbos. BMW is not even a consideration.

I did not use the D8 scan tool to adjust my transmission values, but it does have that special function as well other functions related to new transmission installation like pressure adaptation,etc.

 

[carguy75]

Well I be darn!!!!

The AC system does hold a vacuum now and goes deeper to peg out at -30psi. It seems that my cheap AC manifold hoses seals were the issue. The cheap hose seals are just hard white plastic which are not flexible like quality rubber seals. The 4 season o-rings did the trick to replace the old factory AC o-rings and seal up perfectly.

I almost gave up on the Genesis AC system when a $10 pack of green rubber AC gauge hose seals that can be found on Amazon solved the problem.

 

[carguy75]

Yeah - the 5.0 Ultimate is kind of a unicorn that way... Frankly, I wouldn't touch a used Mercedes or BMW for that matter. Nowadays, they seem to be built to last to the end of the lease.

It's kinda off topic but have you ever used a scan tool to reset the adaptive values in the transmission?

Note: The Xtool scan tool functions that works on the Genesis including the transmission.

 

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Note: The Xtool scan tool functions that works on the Genesis including the transmission.

That's very cool... The D8's a couple of years old, isn't it?

 

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Well I be darn!!!!

The AC system does hold a vacuum now and goes deeper to peg out at -30psi. It seems that my cheap AC manifold hoses seals were the issue. The cheap hose seals are just hard white plastic which are not flexible like quality rubber seals. The 4 season o-rings did the trick to replace the old factory AC o-rings and seal up perfectly.

I almost gave up on the Genesis AC system when a $10 pack of green rubber AC gauge hose seals that can be found on Amazon solved the problem.

Hooray!

 

[carguy75]

That's very cool... The D8's a couple of years old, isn't it?

Yes, it is a 2020 or 2021 unit. But, Xtool still provides updates for the newer cars.

It is a worth while investment for owners who perform DIY repairs on late model cars(2012+) that can require module programming and have more than one brand in the house hold.

I successfully used it to program a new key fob for my Lexus and cleared out the other outstanding keys in the system memory that were not in my possession.

I will do the same for my next used car.

 

[carguy75]

Hooray!

Thank you.

The system had been holding a -30 psi vacuum for about 14hours now, so the AC system is sealed properly and it ready for a charge.

Now I can trade this car in for the full resale value without taking a loss for not having a working AC.

 

[5.0KDM]

Thank you.

The system had been holding a -30 psi vacuum for about 14hours now, so the AC system is sealed properly and it ready for a charge.

Now I can trade this car in for the full resale value without taking a loss for not having a working AC.

Can I get your shift lock cover?

 

[carguy75]

Can I get your shift lock cover?

LOL. My Genesis shift lock was missing as well when I bought my Genesis back in 2018. I ordered a new one off Ebay; I think for about $10 dollars back in 2018. Now the shift lock cover is probably on back order.


I like the Genny but I got to go with a different car company. The 2015 and newer Genesis(G80) sedan is a well made machine and if no major problems happen an owner should be happy with it for a long time.

However, if an owner does have any major problems out of warranty then it will be an interesting experience it seems due to part shortage and not a big community of repair experts that can or even want to repair this car aside from the dealership.

I know when to cut my losses.

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[5.0KDM]

LOL. My Genesis shift lock was missing as well when I bought my Genesis back in 2018. I ordered a new one off Ebay; I think for about $10 dollars back in 2018. Now the shift lock cover is probably on back order.

You are probably right lol!

I like the Genny but I got to go with a different car company.

Man its going to be sad to see you go!! Keep us updated when you get your new ride!

 

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Can I get your shift lock cover?

Can I have your transmission? Honestly, 3rd & 5th gear solenoids will do, if it's a hassle to ship...

 

[carguy75]

You are probably right lol!


Man its going to be sad to see you go!! Keep us updated when you get your new ride!

Thank you.

It has been a good 5 years on this forum. Very nice community.

I really do like this car and hate to let it go.

I will post my new ride. It seems like it will be a 2019 Lexus ES350 F-sport fully loaded I found with 80k miles for about $26k. 80k miles on the Lexus 3.5 V6 is nothing. My Genesis is worth about $11k as a trade with 90k miles, so I can get the Lexus for about $15k.

 

[carguy75]

Can I have your transmission? Honestly, 3rd & 5th gear solenoids will do, if it's a hassle to ship...

I would if I could, but I am trying to get the best price for my ride and it looks almost brand new and run great; so I will not be parting it out.

 

[Charlie1982]

This can not be true. Your AC has no clutch. The compressor is driven anything the engine is running. There is a pressure valve in the back of the compressor that controls how much it pumps, Yes, that valve is closed right now, but the compressor is still turning and the pistons are still pumping. I assume that the oil in the empty compressor will run out and it will seize, but I don't know how long that will take. Fortunately, they did think about this happening (compressor running on an open system), and there is a mechanical fuse or sorts that will sever the connection between the compressor and the pulley when it does seize.

Wow, I've never seen an A/C pump without a clutch before. Glad the OP got this all back together and running right. Well done.

 

[carguy75]

Wow, I've never seen an A/C pump without a clutch before. Glad the OP got this all back together and running right. Well done.

Thank you.

I was a little concern that I would have this car disassembled in my garage forever without getting it running.

No more rare Korean built car models for me. Hyundai did go all out on the 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate to make a darn nice ride, but dropped the ball with part availability or lack there of; which make this car darn near non-repairable it if needs major repair work.

 

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I would if I could, but I am trying to get the best price for my ride and it looks almost brand new and run great; so I will not be parting it out.

 

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Thank you.

I was a little concern that I would have this car disassembled in my garage forever without getting it running.

No more rare Korean built car models for me. Hyundai did go all out on the 2015 Genesis 5.0 Ultimate to make a darn nice ride, but dropped the ball with part availability or lack there of; which make this car darn near non-repairable it if needs major repair work.

Yeah - I'm nearing 114K w/ mine... Your experience has got me a bit concerned.

 

[carguy75]

Yeah - I'm nearing 114K w/ mine... Your experience has got me a bit concerned.

I would be concern as well.

However, to be fair my experience with a damaged timing cover is a rare problem most owners should not have to deal with. If a timing cover leaks it would be a difficult and costly repair, but it should not need to be replaced; just resealed.

As I mentioned; common failure items like the water pump,thermostat, and sensors can be replaced cheaply on the 2015 Genesis with aftermarket replacements.

The main concerns for me in keeping the Genesis as it ages are the transmission, active suspension parts, and other components(electronic harnesses,modules,etc) on my ultimate package that may be discontinued or back ordered for months if they need replacing. Hence, why I am just going with a brand like Lexus or even Volvo(possible 2020 S90) that has better aftermarket support for replacement parts and local non-dealer repair specialist shops for major repairs I do not want to perform or can not handle in my garage.

 

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I would be concern as well.

However, to be fair my experience with a damaged timing cover is a rare problem most owners should not have to deal with. If a timing cover leaks it would be a difficult and costly repair, but it should not need to be replaced; just resealed.

As I mentioned; common failure items like the water pump,thermostat, and sensors can be replaced cheaply on the 2015 Genesis with aftermarket replacements.

The main concerns for me in keeping the Genesis as it ages are the transmission, active suspension parts, and other components(electronic harnesses,modules,etc) on my ultimate package that may be discontinued or back ordered for months if they need replacing. Hence, why I am just going with a brand like Lexus or even Volvo(possible 2020 S90) that has better aftermarket support for replacement parts and local non-dealer repair specialist shops for major repairs I do not want to perform or can not handle in my garage.

Yeah - the transmissions seem none too durable... I see a lot of posts around of even the newer models having them replaced outright @ low miles.

Can't go wrong with a Lexus. Don't know if I'd do Volvo S90 - I've heard that turbo / supercharged 4 cyl. can be pretty problematic but they sure do look good, inside & out.