Aftermarket Oil Filters

[Mark_888]

I went to Fram website and their filter for the Genesis looks to be the same as the Hyundai/Purolator black filter:
http://www.framcatalog.com/PartDetailWindow.aspx?b=F&pn=CH10515
On the webpage above, hit zoom for a larger image.

Also, if you go to Competitor Cross Reference at the bottom, you can see all the brands that offer this filter. My guess is that they are all identical, either the old black model, or the newer white model.

 

[Mark_888]

The new filters are made in Thailand...

Maybe not anymore due to massive flooding in Thailand!!!

 

[TJPark01]

Maybe not anymore due to massive flooding in Thailand!!!

yeah I saw Toyota's facilities are shut down in Thailand.

On a side note, I just swapped a new OEM air filter and it's different than the OEM filter that came with the car, same part number and dimensions, just different internal structure.

 

[P-bar]

I can't believe you guys are penny pinching on one of the most important parts on your car the "oil filter". Fram is garbage since Allied Signal bought them out. Wix is a good filter still I am still on the fence on the OEM's will be going to the dealer today and will look at stock. Just my 2 cents. Let's keep seeking.

 

[RSPEC429]

This is an interesting read. I purchased my oil filter from my dealership a few weeks back for $10 and some change; the part number is 26320-3C30A. The Hyundai Genuine Parts branded box reads made in korea but the MAHLE branded oil filter reads made in austria. The markings on the oil filter are 26330-3C300 and OX 351.

 

[QuantumRift]

What it comes down to: What is the material of the filtration medium? How well is it built?

 

[P-bar]

What it comes down to: What is the material of the filtration medium? How well is it built?

You should never never worry about quality of a OEM filter as the manufacturer will ever cut corners. The ones to be concerned are the aftermarket filters as they cut corners to increase profit margins. It's like that K&N you are running . The worst filter on the market the reason for all the extra air flow is they don't filter and let a lot of junk by to tear up your engine. Just my .02 cents

 

[Southern Boy]

I have posted this on another thread, but thought it might be worth posting here also.

Hyundai posted a new TBS bulletin on Thursday (12-EM-006 USE OF AFTERMARKET ENGINE OIL FILTERS CAUSING ENGINE KNOCKING NOISE).

See attached.

I’ve been using Wix 57250 filters with Synthetic Oil 5W-30 oil and have not experienced any problems. Have 22917 mile on this car and can hardly hear engine when it’s at an idle.

 

[gameday22]

Funny to hear people say the Fram oil filter is junk, I've been using them since my very 1st oil change and sitting idle my car makes almost zero engine noise. I use Pennzoil's Ultra Synthetic along with the Fram filter, am closing in on 40k miles and running just as strong as the day she rolled off the lot. I send my oil into Blackstone Labs every 3rd oil change as I have since the beginning and according to their reports my engine is in excellent condition. I guess it all comes down to maintenance habits of the driver, even with the synthetic oil I still change it out per the owners manual requirements and the oil still looks to be in really good condition when it's being drained.

 

[TJPark01]

I have posted this on another thread, but thought it might be worth posting here also.

Hyundai posted a new TBS bulletin on Thursday (12-EM-006 USE OF AFTERMARKET ENGINE OIL FILTERS CAUSING ENGINE KNOCKING NOISE).

See attached.

I’ve been using Wix 57250 filters with Synthetic Oil 5W-30 oil and have not experienced any problems. Have 22917 mile on this car and can hardly hear engine when it’s at an idle.

I've seen this TSB before, and it is a general one that applies to all models. I think there is more variance with the spin type canister filters versus the OEM ones. In those cases, the sizes can be different as well as the internal construction including filter medium, flow channels and by pass valves. I can't imagine the the cartridge filters having enough pressure variations to cause knocking in the engine of the Genesis. However, after reading this thread, I'm inclined not to use them, considering there isn't much, if any, cost advantage.
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[Mark_888]

Funny to hear people say the Fram oil filter is junk, I've been using them since my very 1st oil change and sitting idle my car makes almost zero engine noise. I use Pennzoil's Ultra Synthetic along with the Fram filter, am closing in on 40k miles and running just as strong as the day she rolled off the lot. I send my oil into Blackstone Labs every 3rd oil change as I have since the beginning and according to their reports my engine is in excellent condition. I guess it all comes down to maintenance habits of the driver, even with the synthetic oil I still change it out per the owners manual requirements and the oil still looks to be in really good condition when it's being drained.

The "so-called" Fram filter with black end caps for the Genesis is exactly the same as the OEM filter. This can be verified by comparing pictures of the Fram against the OEM filter. This filter is made by MANN+HUMMEL. This is not unusual, and even though Fram does manufacturer many of their own filters, it is unrealistic to expect them (or Wix, etc) to make every filter for every vehicle on the road, especially ones with relatively low unit volumes.

Apparently for 2012 Hyundai has switched suppliers and the new filters with white end caps are made by MAHLE. The actual configuration of the end caps is different and the newer white ones apparently have flexible end caps, whereas the older black ones were rigid plastic. The newer ones cost several dollars more than old ones in the Hyundai parts catalog. My wild guess is that the newer white ones have a better filter element to deal with extra particles generated by the new GDI engines.

I am pretty sure that all of the other after-market brands (Wix, etc) are the same situation (I am speaking about oil filters for Hyundai Genesis only), at least until someone shows me a pic of one that proves it is different.

When people say Fram oil filters are junk, they are referring to the cheapest ones made by Fram with metal casing that spin on the engine. Compared to some OEM filters, the cheapest Fram filters are not very good (poor anti-drain back valve mechanism , paper end caps, poor filter element, etc), which is reflected in their price. However, Fram makes several different models of filters, some of the more expensive ones being just as good as any OEM filters.

 

[gameday22]

The "so-called" Fram filter with black end caps for the Genesis is exactly the same as the OEM filter. This can be verified by comparing pictures of the Fram against the OEM filter. This filter is made by MANN+HUMMEL. This is not unusual, and even though Fram does manufacturer many of their own filters, it is unrealistic to expect them (or Wix, etc) to make every filter for every vehicle on the road, especially ones with relatively low unit volumes.

Apparently for 2012 Hyundai has switched suppliers and the new filters with white end caps are made by MAHLE. The actual configuration of the end caps is different and the newer white ones apparently have flexible end caps, whereas the older black ones were rigid plastic. The newer ones cost several dollars more than old ones in the Hyundai parts catalog. My wild guess is that the newer white ones have a better filter element to deal with extra particles generated by the new GDI engines.

I am pretty sure that all of the other after-market brands (Wix, etc) are the same situation (I am speaking about oil filters for Hyundai Genesis only), at least until someone shows me a pic of one that proves it is different.

When people say Fram oil filters are junk, they are referring to the cheapest ones made by Fram with metal casing that spin on the engine. Compared to some OEM filters, the cheapest Fram filters are not very good (poor anti-drain back valve mechanism , paper end caps, poor filter element, etc), which is reflected in their price. However, Fram makes several different models of filters, some of the more expensive ones being just as good as any OEM filters.

Thanks for the clarification, the only one I've been using is the one with the hard black plastic ends and they have worked well for me.

 

[T_E]

I just purchased filters for my Equus 5.0 and the part # is 26330-3C30A and marked OX 351. I am also checking with Wix tech support, as their listing has now changed to a 57029 filter. The difference between the Purolator, and the Wix 57250 and the new 57029 is about 1/10" height and the center hole is .83" on the 57029 and 1" on the others. Maybe there is an issue with pressure loss due to the increased center hole diameter.

 

[Mark_888]

I just purchased filters for my Equus 5.0 and the part # is 26330-3C30A and marked OX 351. I am also checking with Wix tech support, as their listing has now changed to a 57029 filter. The difference between the Purolator, and the Wix 57250 and the new 57029 is about 1/10" height and the center hole is .83" on the 57029 and 1" on the others. Maybe there is an issue with pressure loss due to the increased center hole diameter.

It appears that Hyundai has switched suppliers (and modified specs) for the oil filters on GDI engines. The new Hyundai OEM filter has white end caps and are made by Mahle, and the old has the black plastic end caps are made by MANN+HUMMEL. The physical dimension (and other) specs are a different.

Here is the Wix 57250, and definitely made by MANN+HUMMEL in South Korea (see label). Notice the raised flange and green o-ring insisde, exactly the same as the older (pre-2012) Hyundai OEM filter (easier to see with 360 image).
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wix-57250/media/images

Here is the Wix 57029. It looks just like the new Hyundai OEM Mahle filter, except the end caps are black instead of white, but no raised flange like the old ones. This one might be MANN+HUMMEL's version of the new GDI filter, or might be made by Mahle. Also, there is a big difference in price between the 57029, so the change is more than a slight change in dimensions. This filter is made in South Korea (see 360 view).
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/wix-57029/media/images

 

[iamrelaxed]

Has anyone used the M1C-255 Mobil1 Oil Filter? see http://www.filtersandwipers.com/M1C_255_Mobil1_Oil_Filter_CH10515_57250_PZ174_p/m1c-255.htm

 

[Mark_888]

Has anyone used the M1C-255 Mobil1 Oil Filter? see http://www.filtersandwipers.com/M1C_255_Mobil1_Oil_Filter_CH10515_57250_PZ174_p/m1c-255.htm

If you decide to buy, would appreciate if you could post several good pics of the filter. That might help determine whether it is made by Mahle (same as OEM) or a unique design. I think the picture on the package may be a generic picture of a cartridge type filter. Also include any product lettering on the filter, such as country of origin.

 

[427435]

Some things I just don't understand. You buy an expensive car with a 10 yr/100,000 mile warranty on the engine and then try and save money on the filters. Although not necessary to use a Hyundai oil filter to maintain the warranty, it is necessary to use one that meets Hyundai specs (whatever they are). The filter is kind of an odd ball thing anyway---------------why try and save a few bucks instead of just buying one from your local Hyundai dealer and keeping the receipts??

 

[homeofstone]

Some things I just don't understand. You buy an expensive car with a 10 yr/100,000 mile warranty on the engine and then try and save money on the filters. Although not necessary to use a Hyundai oil filter to maintain the warranty, it is necessary to use one that meets Hyundai specs (whatever they are). The filter is kind of an odd ball thing anyway---------------why try and save a few bucks instead of just buying one from your local Hyundai dealer and keeping the receipts??

Well stated. ^

 

[Mark_888]

Some things I just don't understand. You buy an expensive car with a 10 yr/100,000 mile warranty on the engine and then try and save money on the filters. Although not necessary to use a Hyundai oil filter to maintain the warranty, it is necessary to use one that meets Hyundai specs (whatever they are). The filter is kind of an odd ball thing anyway---------------why try and save a few bucks instead of just buying one from your local Hyundai dealer and keeping the receipts??

I don't know if the specific Mobil 1 filter mentioned above is any different than the Hyundai OEM one (Hyundai does not make them), but it is not cheaper. Typically Mobil 1 filters are more expensive and better quality than OEM filters, and that is the motivation for using them. I previously used Mobil 1 oil filters on a Toyota vehicle and it was definitely better quality than the OEM one (and about twice the price).

 

[Jbo]

Save possible headaches...use the genuine Hyundai oil filters and keep receipts for all oil/filter changes or DIY installs...saves warranty arguments .