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Are you unhappy with V6?

Your theory makes more sense than my theory. Still, 80 miles an hour on cruise control is the not a heavy foot problem.

I do believe that certain road surfaces matter, as I note that I get better gas mileage in Florida than I do on the highways of south Georgia. It seems to me, admitting my subjectivity, that the roads in Florida ARE smoother.

What year is your Genesis? Does it have adaptive cruise control? You can set your cruise control at 80 MPH but it doesn't mean it will always go at 80 MPH. not to mention having to factor in the road condition, weather, and slope of the road, etc...

I guarantee you your mileage will be decreased by more than 1 MPG on V8 if you drove it the same way.
 
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What year is your Genesis? Does it have adaptive cruise control? You can set your cruise control at 80 MPH but it doesn't mean it will always go at 80 MPH. not to mention having to factor in the road condition, weather, and slope of the road, etc...

I guarantee you your mileage will be decreased by more than 1 MPG on V8 if you drove it the same way.

Why does the year matter? It's a 2010.

What I am noting is that I had a GS 400 Lexus for 10 years and 187,000 miles, and that V8 would give me 24.5 mpg on the highway, and had a lot more pull at highway speeds, so I wonder is the V8 can better manage the load of driving 80 mph than a V6. The Lexus may have had less weight. The Genesis certainly has more interior room, and trunk space. I have to be careful to compare apples to apples.

I don't have the adaptive Cruise (I have the premium package). I do have the 18 inch wheels that I learned diminish MPG because of their greater weight. I didn't know that until after I bought the Genesis, and Car and Driver did their report.

Come to think of it, I had changed the wheels on the Lexus from the 17's to the 16's, and that may have had something to do with the mileage, too. The 17 inch tires were lasting only 12,000 miles at that time.

So if I put 17's on the Hyundai? Well, I don't know anybody with the 17's, but it would be interesting to hear from them. No doubt the ride would soften up, too.
 
A lot of it depends on preference and driving surroundings/environment...

There are some people that buy a V8, realizing they'll never really be able to take advantage of it. I live in an area that's littered with street lights, stop signs, intersection cameras, border patrol, and little to no expressways. Other than the incentive of better value, there really is no power-influencing reason to get the V8.

I've test driven two V6 Genesis and I'm pretty sure that for most drivers, assuming that they'd be interest in minimal options, will find the V6 to be of a great value and perfect for their needs. On the other hand, buying the V8 makes the most sense if and only if that person is looking to buy all of the goodies. If that's the case, then buying the V8 is probably what you want to do.
 
I'm completely happy with my 3.8L V6. I test drove both. In no way does V6 lack power. It's got plenty of power. V8 is just faster. I do alot of city driving and never really feel the need to drive that much faster. Extra $2000 plus more fuel cost in the wrong run wasn't worth it for me.
 
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Although I have had some issues with an engine noise (yet to be diagnosed), I would rate the V6 Hyundai Genesis as the best car I've owned.

There are many test comparisons of the Genesis against other vehicles. If you get the absolute base Genesis, without the moonroof and tech package, you will pay about 33,000 on the street for a vehicle that will do 0-60 in 5.9 seconds, and will get about 22.5mpg in mixed driving on regular gas.
The skidpad rating is about .87, and the overall handling is superb.

If you get the tech package, you will add some weight and lose a bit of performance. 0-60 will take about 6.2-6.3, and mileage and handling will take a very minor hit.

Go to the V8, and load it up, and you will lose a bit of handling, gain a bit of straight line acceleration (measurements average about 5.6-5.7).

All Genesis models are marked by a body style that I see as really expensive looking and "classic", with rock solid, vault-like body construction and a fabulous paint job.

There are a couple of issues that people have consistently noted.

a. Because of the engine design, with phenolic piston skirts, there can be a bit of piston slap at cold starts, manifested as an audible tapping sound.

b. The ride can feel a bit "busy" on washboard road surfaces. Personally, I have absolutely zero problem with the Genesis handling characteristics.

For a price barely exceeding a top of the line Camry or Accord, you can have a base Genesis V6 that is head and shoulders better.
 
Then there must be something seriously wrong with either my car or my driving. I get about 20-21 city and like 25 highway at 75-80. Would slowing down that 5-10 really give me that big of change in my mpg?

Well, without controlling for weather or traffic, I have found out. Made the drive from south Georgia to South Florida twice in two weeks. When setting the cruise at 80 mph my calculated gas mileage was 23.5 mpg. The computer reads 24.5, but is always 0.8 mpg optimistic. The second time I set the cruise for 72 mph, and the car measured 28 mpg on the highway, and my calculated number was 27.2.

So the numbers are real, as advertised by Hyundai, but I am disappointed that my 1998 Lexus GS 400 with a V8 engine would average 24.5 mpg at 80 mph on flat land.

I wonder if the increased HP and Torque actually helps mileage at the higher speeds, because the engine is not working as hard.

I am always going to set my cruise at 10 mph over the speed limit. I never get a ticket.

When this car is worn out, though, I will take into consideration this disappointment. For a V6 the mileage is not what I expected from technology 12 years newer than the V8 Lexus.

By the old methods of rating, which were more optimistic than current, the Lexus was rated 17 mpg city, and 23 mpg highway, and always exceeded the number on the highway, and was just accurate in the city.

Still, I love this car. Some of my angst is caused by my getting out of a V8 Phaeton that weighed over 5K lbs and did 20 mpg at 80 mph. I got rid of the car because it was always needing work, even with less than 60K miles, and because I had to drive a long way to have the work done, and the dealers still would not fix everything correctly. It was a complicated car, took up too much of my time to get it fixed, but I used the excuse of being ecologically responsible to justify getting the V6 Hyundai....that has a local dealer (albeit service is marginal, though well intended). I did a monetary hit on the Phaeton, but saying so is discounting my time which I obviously valued enough to get out from under the big car. Now, my Hyundai is much more fun to drive on a daily basis, gets noticed more by a lot, has almost as much interior space except for back seat leg room, and lacks the absurdity quotient requirement for attention to proprietary details the Phaeton required. Oh, and the key fobs for all Phaetons would work only if within 15 feet of the car. I had started to hate the car, but I didn't imagine it could be as bad as it was wheh I bought it just 7 months before I dumped it. The quality of the Phaeton interior was mesmerizing. I am just not ready to lose faith in my decision making regarding cars, but I am realizing the V8 may have been a better car because the retention of resale value may have paid the meager cost difference from fuel savings...and the fuel savings from the using the V6 seem to be about nil.

For what it's worth.
 
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My experiences mirror sooththetruth's almost exactly! I drive to work early in the morning to beat the heavy traffic, and I have experimented pretty carefully running the car on cruise control at different speeds. There is a big difference between 70 and 80, and, in my experience, at least as big a difference between 60 and 70. If you run at a steady 65, and resist the temptation to hammer it, you should get about 27-28mpg. BTW, I run my tires at slightly more than the recommended 33, and it definitely has helped my mileage.

One wind-it-out blast on the accelerator drops my mileage noticeably. So don't leadfoot it *at all* if you want to optimize. Drive like a chauffer, not a NY cabbie....

Just like sooththetruth, I have found that the trip mileage computer is unfailingly optimistic, by, on average, 0.8mpg!!

My *actual* mileage in a mix of about 60% highway 40% city driving is between 22 and 23 mpg.

If you do the math, though, it really doesn't make much difference financially if you drive 80 or 65, especially when you consider that driving faster on the highway actually does save you time, while driving faster in the city often gets you virtually no net gain in travel time.




Well, without controlling for weather or traffic, I have found out. Made the drive from south Georgia to South Florida twice in two weeks. When setting the cruise at 80 mph my calculated gas mileage was 23.5 mpg. The computer reads 24.5, but is always 0.8 mpg optimistic. The second time I set the cruise for 72 mph, and the car measured 28 mpg on the highway, and my calculated number was 27.2.

So the numbers are real, as advertised by Hyundai, but I am disappointed that my 1998 Lexus GS 400 with a V8 engine would average 24.5 mpg at 80 mph on flat land.

I wonder if the increased HP and Torque actually helps mileage at the higher speeds, because the engine is not working as hard.

I am always going to set my cruise at 10 mph over the speed limit. I never get a ticket.

When this car is worn out, though, I will take into consideration this disappointment. For a V6 the mileage is not what I expected from technology 12 years newer than the V8 Lexus.

By the old methods of rating, which were more optimistic than current, the Lexus was rated 17 mpg city, and 23 mpg highway, and always exceeded the number on the highway, and was just accurate in the city.

Still, I love this car. Some of my angst is caused by my getting out of a V8 Phaeton that weighed over 5K lbs and did 20 mpg at 80 mph. I got rid of the car because it was always needing work, even with less than 60K miles, and because I had to drive a long way to have the work done, and the dealers still would not fix everything correctly. It was a complicated car, took up too much of my time to get it fixed, but I used the excuse of being ecologically responsible to justify getting the V6 Hyundai....that has a local dealer (albeit service is marginal, though well intended). I did a monetary hit on the Phaeton, but saying so is discounting my time which I obviously valued enough to get out from under the big car. Now, my Hyundai is much more fun to drive on a daily basis, gets noticed more by a lot, has almost as much interior space except for back seat leg room, and lacks the absurdity quotient requirement for attention to proprietary details the Phaeton required. Oh, and the key fobs for all Phaetons would work only if within 15 feet of the car. I had started to hate the car, but I didn't imagine it could be as bad as it was wheh I bought it just 7 months before I dumped it. The quality of the Phaeton interior was mesmerizing. I am just not ready to lose faith in my decision making regarding cars, but I am realizing the V8 may have been a better car because the retention of resale value may have paid the meager cost difference from fuel savings...and the fuel savings from the using the V6 seem to be about nil.

For what it's worth.
 
I LOVE THE V6. I traded in a Nissan Titan (310HP V8) for the v6. Just got back from a trip to the beach and interstate driving was a blast. Going 70 and hitting the gas was like going 10 and hitting the gas (lots of get up and go). I'm sure the V8 is awesome but the v6 gets it done. If money is a factor (and trust me, it was for me) you get a great car, great price, and a great time every time you take it for a spin.
 
I have owned a 2009 V-6 and a 2011 V-8.

I perefer the V-8. The difference in the transmission is noticeably better in the V-8 and I saw little to no difference in the gas mileage and not much more money to get the extras that the V-8 package comes with.

NOLa
 
I have had the V6 for almost two years and have no complaints. My previous car was a Impala SS with 303 V8. I notice very little drop off in power. I just drove from Southern Indiana to near the Michigan border recently and the Northern half was mostly two lane county highways. I had to pass a large semi with little opportunities to do so. When I got the chance I kicked it and hauled butt to say the least. Obviously the V8 would be faster but I am serious, it hauls when you need it. I've always liked fast cars...my early drive was a chevy with the 396 and 325 HP so I can speak from experience.
 
I almost went with the V6 with Premium Package but was offered a great deal on a V8 demo fully loaded with the Technology Package plus the extra goodies you only get on the V8, like the ZF 6-speed automatic transmission and the electro-hydraulic power steering and the electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors. Plus a few other niceties like the illuminated door sill plates and the woodgrain-trimmed steering wheel.

I would have been perfectly happy with the V6, it drove great. But for just a little more money, I am very happy with the V8.

For someone stepping up from a Camry or Accord, the base V6 (or better yet, V6 with Premium Package) is a great way to go. For not much more money you are stepping up to a true luxury car.

For someone who wants all the bells and whistles, the V8 is only two thousand dollars more than a fully loaded V6 with Tech Package; I decided that 33% more power plus the above-mentioned extras made this a value too good to pass up. The Genesis V8 vaults you past a BMW 5 Series, for less money.

Either way, you can't go wrong. V6 or V8, the Hyundai Genesis is far and away the best value in luxury cars.
 
Sorry Waki, I have owned BOTH a V-6 and V-8 and I was surprised that there wasn't more of a difference in the mileage between the two.

First time around, we bought a V-6 even though my husband wanted the V-8 because I thought the V-8 would take a hit on the mileage.

Can't tell you why, maybe it's because the transmissions are different on the two cars.

In my heavier Equus, there has been a difference...19 to 22 mph city driving depending on how I drive, but speed limit, using cruise control on interstate, I got 28 mpg.

NOLa
 
Well, considering that gas prices aren't getting any lower and continue to climb out of this world, I would consider the V6 anyway. I have a 2011 platinum/jet black V6 here in Hawaii. It has enough ump to get you where you wanna go and the gas mileage is great. I wouldn't have changed my mind for the V8.
 
I have a 3.8 and I LOVE it! I have have 10 cars over my driving past, the engines have varied from 2.0 liters to 6.0 liters. This is by far the best engine I have had in any of my cars. I am sure the 3.90 gears help, it is a spunky car. How can you go wrong with 0-60 in 5.9???? Plus it helps that I got $800 UNDER invoice on this car and a great trade in on my '07 Camry... :-) I have spent thounds of dollars more on cars and they didn't even come close to making me as happy as this car.

You know, I have told my wife (any many others) that I have liked ALL my cars, heck I have REALLY liked a few of my cars, but I have never LOVED one of my cars, until the ol' Genesis came along!! :D
 
Then there must be something seriously wrong with either my car or my driving. I get about 20-21 city and like 25 highway at 75-80. Would slowing down that 5-10 really give me that big of change in my mpg?

I bought a 2011 V6 3.8 in January.....24 mph around town.
 
Hey guys,
I've got a question about Genesis!
Is there any other differences between V6 and V8 like interior specs?! (I mean I actually know their powers and engines are different :D)
I was told that the V6 model has less interior options to choose from...?
 
Hey guys,
I've got a question about Genesis!
Is there any other differences between V6 and V8 like interior specs?! (I mean I actually know their powers and engines are different :D)
I was told that the V6 model has less interior options to choose from...?
At one time the V8 had some things not available on the V6, but I don't think that is the case anymore if you get V6 with Tech Package. The V8 does have slightly larger brakes to handle the extra 200 lbs on the front end. But even the transmissions are the same now.
 
Hey guys,
I've got a question about Genesis!
Is there any other differences between V6 and V8 like interior specs?! (I mean I actually know their powers and engines are different :D)
I was told that the V6 model has less interior options to choose from...?

This is from a Hyundai press release:

(In addition to or in place of Genesis 3.8 TECHNOLOGY PACKAGE equipment):

4.6-liter DOHC V8 with 385HP (premium fuel) / 378HP (regular)

Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering (EHPS)
Chrome lower bodyside moldings
Electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors
Illuminated door sill plates
Woodgrain-trimmed leather steering wheel

Now just decide what's most important to you.
 
  • Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering (EHPS) - no real driver benefit except slightly less drag on engine, but more drag on electrical system (which seems to be a problem for some).
  • Chrome lower bodyside moldings - OK, but I am not a pimp, so doesn't interest me.
  • Electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors - OK, but V6 Premium does have the power folding feature.
  • Illuminated door sill plates - several fourm members have added these.
  • Woodgrain-trimmed leather steering wheel - could easily be added, but it's not real wood, and several people have swapped this out for all leather.
 
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