Are you unhappy with V6?

[ParsiKade]

Thanks guys.
So I think it was only the 2009 V6 model that didn't have some key features of V8 model and if I choose 2010 or 2011 V6 model with Tech Package I will not miss additional features on V8 model, right?

By the way I'm looking forward to buy the 2012 model (3.8) but have no idea when it will be available in my country...

 

[gadgetboyatl]

Thanks guys.
So I think it was only the 2009 V6 model that didn't have some key features of V8 model and if I choose 2010 or 2011 V6 model with Tech Package I will not miss additional features on V8 model, right?

By the way I'm looking forward to buy the 2012 model (3.8) but have no idea when it will be available in my country...

You still miss some, look at the list again, they may not be huge but there is a difference. What some may dismiss out of hand may be something you would like to have. For instance, many pro reviewers have written about how they prefer the electro-hydaulic steering because of the feel they get from it. Check it out for yourself first before you go on the opinions of some who may have no more experience in driving then you.

 

[ParsiKade]

You still miss some, look at the list again, they may not be huge but there is a difference. What some may dismiss out of hand may be something you would like to have. For instance, many pro reviewers have written about how they prefer the electro-hydaulic steering because of the feel they get from it. Check it out for yourself first before you go on the opinions of some who may have no more experience in driving then you.

Oops sorry my fault, didn't notice it. I thought they were some options that can be added to V6 model, too. For me, I think the Electro-Hydraulic thing (if it really does feel better, I've to try it) and 'Electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors' are 2 differences that could matter to me. And I don't exactly know what "Power folding" is?

And one more thing, I noticed some models had a camera in front of the car that you could see the blind spots using it. But in several pictures there is nothing like a camera there? Is it an options that can be added later? I also couldn't find any pictures showing what spots could be seen using this camera?

 

[Mark_888]

You still miss some, look at the list again, they may not be huge but there is a difference. What some may dismiss out of hand may be something you would like to have. For instance, many pro reviewers have written about how they prefer the electro-hydaulic steering because of the feel they get from it. Check it out for yourself first before you go on the opinions of some who may have no more experience in driving then you.

Maybe it does feel different, I don't know. But I thought the difference is just the source of power, V6 power steering driven from belt assembly, or V8 driven (mostly) from electric motor operating off electrical system. The steering may feel a little different, but I don't think it necessarily because source of power.

In general, the V6 feels a little bit lighter on steering, mostly because of 200 fewer lbs on front end compared to V8, so that may account for the difference. But by "light" I don't necessarily mean less road feel.

 

[Mark_888]

Oops sorry my fault, didn't notice it. I thought they were some options that can be added to V6 model, too. For me, I think the Electro-Hydraulic thing (if it really does feel better, I've to try it) and 'Electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors' are 2 differences that could matter to me. And I don't exactly know what "Power folding" is?

And one more thing, I noticed some models had a camera in front of the car that you could see the blind spots using it. But in several pictures there is nothing like a camera there? Is it an options that can be added later? I also couldn't find any pictures showing what spots could be seen using this camera?

Most objective reviewers that I have seen say the V8 feels heavier and less nimble than the V6, but not because of source of power for the power steering, or more road feel, but because of extra weight on front end (200 lbs or so). So obviously the two cars will steer a little different. The electronic power steering just takes less HP drain off the engine in theory (probably very small amount), although more drain on alternator in theory to provide electrical power to V8 power steering.

The auto-dimming side view mirrors are like auto-dimming rear view mirrors, to reduce glare. Power folding mirrors allows you fold the outside mirrors flush against the car to gain more clearance in tight spots (like drive-up windows). All Genesis have had folding outside mirrors since inception in 2009, but now some have power folding mirrors.

 

[tonygxp]

• Electro-Hydraulic Power Steering (EHPS) - no real driver benefit except slightly less drag on engine, but more drag on electrical system (which seems to be a problem for some).
• Chrome lower bodyside moldings - OK, but I am not a pimp, so doesn't interest me.
• Electrochromic auto-dimming outside mirrors - OK, but V6 Premium does have the power folding feature.
• Illuminated door sill plates - several fourm members have added these.
• Woodgrain-trimmed leather steering wheel - could easily be added, but it's not real wood, and several people have swapped this out for all leather.

Maybe it does feel different, I don't know. But I thought the difference is just the source of power, V6 power steering driven from belt assembly, or V8 driven (mostly) from electric motor operating off electrical system. The steering may feel a little different, but I don't think it necessarily because source of power.

In general, the V6 feels a little bit lighter on steering, mostly because of 200 fewer lbs on front end compared to V8, so that may account for the difference. But by "light" I don't necessarily mean less road feel.

i guess the only thing i say is a "must" is the auto dimming mirrors, the rest is personal preference. i will say i like the chrome lower moldings and sill plates, they should be on all of them, heck even the wheel should be an option. the wheel oozes luxury.

You need to drive a 4.6 the steering is NOTHING like the 3.8
you get used to it but it feels and drives completely different, good or bad? idk i could live with either one but the electric does feel like nothing i've ever driven before. Heavy on the hwy alright. but the steering feel is very linear in the 4.6, where the 3.8 is more lower speed tougher, higher speed lighter, the V8 is the same at all speeds.
the new ford f150 has the electric assist steering and at 0mph i can turn the wheel with a fingertip, it's awesome. the hyundai system is NOT like that, i wish it was though.

only way to understand what i am talking about is to drive them both. it's almost unimaginable that the same car can ride, drive and perform so different given the only changes are to the engine, brand of trans, and steering system.. lol well when you think of it that way i guess it is understandable??

 

[Mark_888]

i guess the only thing i say is a "must" is the auto dimming mirrors, the rest is personal preference. i will say i like the chrome lower moldings and sill plates, they should be on all of them, heck even the wheel should be an option. the wheel oozes luxury.

You need to drive a 4.6 the steering is NOTHING like the 3.8
you get used to it but it feels and drives completely different, good or bad? idk i could live with either one but the electric does feel like nothing i've ever driven before. Heavy on the hwy alright. but the steering feel is very linear in the 4.6, where the 3.8 is more lower speed tougher, higher speed lighter, the V8 is the same at all speeds.
the new ford f150 has the electric assist steering and at 0mph i can turn the wheel with a fingertip, it's awesome. the hyundai system is NOT like that, i wish it was though.

only way to understand what i am talking about is to drive them both. it's almost unimaginable that the same car can ride, drive and perform so different given the only changes are to the engine, brand of trans, and steering system.. lol well when you think of it that way i guess it is understandable??

I don't ever recall having any headlight glare on my side view mirrors. Maybe that is because I have mine at the proper angle to see in my blind spot. Hard to say that it is a “must.”

I think the comments attributing the steering difference to the source of power for power steering is very misleading. Note that most of the steering system components are not any different between V6 and V8, since the Genesis V8 is actually "electro-hydraulic," and uses an electric motor to drive a conventional hydraulic pump. The Genesis V8 power steering is not pure electric as exist on a few other automobiles.
http://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis/specifications.aspx

Both the V6 and V8 have variable steering assist that varies according to speed. The assist is different because of the extra 200 lbs on the front wheels of the V8 compared to V6. The V6 has nearly the ideal 50/50 front/year weight distribution for better steering and handling, while the V8 is more front heavy and requires more steering assist. Almost all reviewers say the "V6 feels more nimble" and they would not say that if there anything wrong with the V6 steering.

 

[Mark_888]

Here is some interesting information about pure electric power steering (whch the V8 does not have since it uses "electro-hydraulic").
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2010/02/whos-afraid-of-electric-power-steering/

 

[tonygxp]

as for the side mirrors. do you have to move your head to see vehicles? if so that's why it doesn't bother you. if you had them in the position i have mine (where you just peer left, right or up to view what's in them without moving your head) it would drive you crazy.

at night i used to have to lower my mirrors (on my older cars/trucks) when i was on a long drive on the hwy. my last two vehicles had this feature so i am glad the hyundai does as well, i like it alot.

 

[Mark_888]

as for the side mirrors. do you have to move your head to see vehicles? if so that's why it doesn't bother you. if you had them in the position i have mine (where you just peer left, right or up to view what's in them without moving your head) it would drive you crazy.

at night i used to have to lower my mirrors (on my older cars/trucks) when i was on a long drive on the hwy. my last two vehicles had this feature so i am glad the hyundai does as well, i like it alot.

I just don't recall it ever being an issue with me. Obviously this only applies to night driving on roads with multiple lanes in the same direction. I am not sure why it doesn't bother me, but intuitively it just seems that the angle of a headlight in a car that is driving in a lane next to me (in a lane to the left or right of me) would not be such that it shines off the side view mirror directly into my eyes with enough intensity to bother me. Yes, there would some difuse light and a very obtuse angle, but nothing like the kind of glare from a headlight right behind me that would shine directly off the rear-view mirror at a very acute angle.

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[NYCGPS]

Belt driven power steering always feels heavier at lower speed.

but for me, I always prefer belt type over pure power type. At least Belt type usually (most of the time) last longer than pure power type.

best feeling is to "remove" the power steering altogether. But I'm not sure if that's even possible in modern cars. on my FC3S I know how to do it.

 

[StarkyLuv]

I just got the 2012 V6. 333hp, turn off the ESC and let the car stretch its legs.....heaven.

 

[reggieburris]

I am more than happy with my V6 but I would have been happy with a V8 as well. I had the opportunity to buy a demo V8 and my new V6 for the same price and both with the premium package before the tech package was standard on the V8's.

At times I am a lead-foot and the V6, being is very spirited, suffices. Test drive both - you'll enjoy it.

 

[sooththetruth]

Around town I like to drive aggressively, and taking corners is just more fun in the V6, and there was no question in my mind that I preferred the V6 for just this reason. I use and enjoy the cornering on an every day basis, and would notice the V8 power on the occasional ride through the mountains where a V8 can seem to coast uphill.

There is a compromise either way, and I chose to give up the big power, but I am really happy at the cornering of my V6 Genesis.

 

[nextcar]

Around town I like to drive aggressively, and taking corners is just more fun in the V6, and there was no question in my mind that I preferred the V6 for just this reason. I use and enjoy the cornering on an every day basis, and would notice the V8 power on the occasional ride through the mountains where a V8 can seem to coast uphill.

There is a compromise either way, and I chose to give up the big power, but I am really happy at the cornering of my V6 Genesis.

yes, it really is a compromise.

with 2000 miles on my V8, i realize that this motor sometimes feels too sedate, too quiet. i remember the GDI V6 sounded more alive, with a nice growl.
even though the V8 has more low end torque, once you get the revs up on the V6, it feels just as fast as the V8.

 

[BBQ Bandit]

For us... the V8 was not considered.

The first time test-driving the V6... it was in all intended purposes for the Mrs'.
The lively and quick V6 surprised me... more than enough gumption (replacing an Avalon's V6 @ 200 hp).
Was the same conclusion for the second Genesis as well... this time for myself.

 

[QuantumRift]

Hell, NO.

Compared to the Camaro, Mustang, and Charger, the Genesis V6 rocks. I have a helluva time NOT shoving myself deeper into my seat when I step on the gas.

Correct me if I'm wrong but here are the comparisons:

The 2011 Mustang 3.7L V6: 305 hp @ 6,500 rpm, 280 ft-lb of torque @ 4,250 rpm.
The 2012 Mustang 3.7L V6: 305 hp @ 6,500 rpm; 280 ft lb of torque @ 4,250 rpm. (no change from 2011)

The 2011 Camaro 3.6L V6: 312 HP @ 6,800 rpm, 278 ft-lb of torque @ 5,100 rpm.
The 2012 Camaro 3.6L V6: 323 hp @ 6,800 rpm; 278 ft-lb of torque @ 4,800 rpm.

2011 Charger 3.6L V6: 292 hp @ 6350 rpm; 260 ft-lb of torque @ 4800 rpm.

The 2012 Genesis 3.8L V6: 333 hp @ 6,400 rpm; 291 ft-lb of torque @ 5,100 rpm.

Need I say more?

 

[eugew23]

The V6 in the Genesis is just awesome. Brisk acceleration and smoothness. It's a bit rough on the startup, but its just great. Great fuel economy too. on the highway (im a light driver) i can get up to 30 mpg. Thats really good for a full size sedan. I never go below 23mpg in the city, either

 

[LA Genesis]

I've only had the 3.8 for a day but I love it already. Good highway fuel economy, haven't driven much in the city yet. The engine is smooth and powerful. I've driven some powerful cars and I'm very pleased with the V6.

 

[upsbroke]

It's not a Corvette but it definitely gets out of it's own way without any problem .