BMW Guy here!

[Boulderado]

Hello everyone,

Recently the 2015 Genesis has started to grab my attention after seeing one on the road. I am looking to replace my 2014 BMW 428xDrive with a sedan before the year end (getting married and starting a family) and started to research the car and I am very intrigued from what I read in various forums (including this one) and professional reviews.

Hyundai, not only did get the car right (living in Colorado, Gen 1 Genesis wouldn't even be on my radar without all wheel drive) but also offers very competitive lease deals. Looks like 10% off MSRP is doable at the moment before $1500 lease cash and $1500 conquest bonus. 59% residual for 36/15k is on par with BMW and Lexus and the 0.00076 money factor is better than both.

My plan is to wait until November/December for better discounts on remaining 2015s (assuming that 2016s will start to show up in August/September) and benefit from year end incentives. Montecito Blue looks gorgeous in pictures and Signature package seems to add everything that I would want. As a BMW owner I am looking forward to having a ton of useful bells and whistles at a great price!

Anyways I have been reading this forum a lot in the last few days and just wanted to say hi. Please feel free to offer your views (trim level, color, purchase timing, incentives, experience with Hyundai dealers/finance, potential MY2016 vs MY2015 differences) to this potential Genesis owner...

 

[Alwaysforward]

...Montecito Blue looks gorgeous in pictures and Signature package seems to add everything that I would want...

to the forum. You will love this car and you picked out the best color too You might want to look at the Ultimate package. The seat, interior and HUD is amazing. Not sure if they come with the Signature package or not. Good luck and be sure to post up some pics when you pick yours up...

 

[Bill Georgia]

Welcome to the forum. I recommend you get the 3.8 AWD with the Ultimate Package.
It adds:
Genuine matte finish wood trim and aluminum trim
Heads-up Display
Premium DIS Navigation with 9.2-inch HD Display
Lexicon® 17-speaker Discrete Logic 7 surround audio
Power Trunk Lid
Dual mode Vent Control HVAC and CO2 Sensor

 

[Gunkk]

Ultimate package. The seat, interior and HUD is amazing. Not sure if they come with the Signature package or not.

Signature: Seat no, wood no, HUD no.
Tech: Seat yes, wood no, HUD no.
Ultimate: yes to all 3.
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis/specifications.aspx

That said, coming from a Bimmer you will feel like the genesis handles like a 80's caprice. Might want to try driving the 5.0 ultimate for the active damped ride control... and then hope they release an AWD 5.0 in the usa in the fall for 2016 (I give it a 40% chance).

 

[joeyz400]

I disagree. The handling on the 3.8 is very good. I think it handle. As good as my 2012 M/B E 350 with a little better ride.

 

[Boulderado]

Signature: Seat no, wood no, HUD no.
Tech: Seat yes, wood no, HUD no.
Ultimate: yes to all 3.
https://www.hyundaiusa.com/genesis/specifications.aspx

That said, coming from a Bimmer you will feel like the genesis handles like a 80's caprice. Might want to try driving the 5.0 ultimate for the active damped ride control... and then hope they release an AWD 5.0 in the usa in the fall for 2016 (I give it a 40% chance).

Yes I understand that Genesis is a luxury sedan with a very long wheelbase and substantial heft but I am ok with that. The agile sport coupe encourages me to drive more aggressively than I like and I think I will welcome the change. Plus the Genesis still has a rear wheel drive chassis and rear wheel drive biased all wheel drive system so the car should be more balanced than the average sedan.

As for the trim levels, other than the HUD there is nothing that I would be using on tech and ultimate packages (not a fan of driver's assistance systems) so I guess I need to decide if I want pay $50 more a month for nicer leather and another $50 for the HUD and nicer dash trim...

 

[commodore]

There is this huge misconception that if one drives a BMW their drivers hold the lap record at LeManns. That's because everyone knows that BMW's are 'race cars'. Well they are not and if it's got four doors BMW probably didn't intended it to be.
Nine out of ten BMW drivers never venture beyond 45% of their cars capability. The same can be said for the other go fast marques out there. BMW drivers, not BMW label freaks, buy BMW's because they are nice looking comfortable cars. BMW is a very well establish car manufacture with a time won reputation and prestige.
My everyday car is currently a [leased] 2015 AWD Genesis (my 'boy racer' cars winter in my garage and are on salt free diets until summer). Like a BMW I think the Genesis, with its Lotus inspired suspension, handles very well. An added bonus is that the Genesis is not as stiff riding as the BMW and feels more spacious than all but the BMW 7 series cars. On the skid pad (something we all drive on every day) the BMW might pull a slightly better G number but that's not the way to go shopping for a comfortable luxury sedan.
If a potential buyer doesn't mind leaving the imaginary helmet at home why not strive to be as comfortable as possible and save a few bucks while doing it?
I think Hyundai's new Genesis is a serious player in this segment and when the marketing jerks that left out the fog lights and V8's on US AWD cars are fired the Genesis is going to be even more difficult to pass by.

 

[DFWGenny]

I have the car you described. I would like the HUD, but not to the point of all the other stuff that comes with it. The blind spot warning, seat memory and HID were my must haves. I have not been lusting after the Tech or Ultimate trim levels. Imitation wood and plastic "aluminium" trim does not bother me. The Signature trim is really nice for those of us that like the basics.

 

[sabre3]

I have the car you described. I would like the HUD, but not to the point of all the other stuff that comes with it. The blind spot warning, seat memory and HID were my must haves. I have not been lusting after the Tech or Ultimate trim levels. Imitation wood and plastic "aluminium" trim does not bother me. The Signature trim is really nice for those of us that like the basics.

I am some what in the same boat. I like a few selections from the tech and ultimate but didn't like them enough to buy both. Seeing that the AWD gave me heated steering wheel and rear heated seats I only wanted the signature package to get the sunroof and power tilt and slide steering wheel.

 

[DFWGenny]

The heated steering wheel, OMG! How did I survive without that?

My coworkers like when I drive because of the rear seat butt warmers.

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[Aquineas]

Boulderado, welcome! Personally I'd option it out because life is short and you'd might as well have toys ;-). Putting that whimsical point aside, I'd suggest investigating the dealers that might end up being your dealer. Coming from BMW, you're probably going to find the Hyundai dealership experience a couple notches below what you're used to, and on top of that, the dealer experience can vary a lot between dealers. Hopefully there's a good one where you are that will help with the adjustment, but there probably is going to be an adjustment.

 

[Boulderado]

Boulderado, welcome! Personally I'd option it out because life is short and you'd might as well have toys ;-). Putting that whimsical point aside, I'd suggest investigating the dealers that might end up being your dealer. Coming from BMW, you're probably going to find the Hyundai dealership experience a couple notches below what you're used to, and on top of that, the dealer experience can vary a lot between dealers. Hopefully there's a good one where you are that will help with the adjustment, but there probably is going to be an adjustment.

Totally agree hence why I got the BMW in the first place. Special order, had to wait for 4 months. I took delivery of the very first 4 series in CO not counting the dealer demos back in October 2013. I put down $2500 and still paying $600/month for a 12k miles/year lease. With an AWD Signature Genesis I am looking at $400 range with no money down and I am still getting a comparable product. The value in the Genesis is just so tempting

As for the dealer experience, while it was nice it wasn't as impressive as the Lexus dealer that we got my girlfriend's car from. I do enjoy the free maintenance and free service loaners though but I've read that the Genesis owners also get free loaners when the car is being serviced and complimentary oil changes/tire rotations. Plus the Denver area dealers seem to have ton of Genesis in stock and according to Google reviews they are mostly highly rated dealers...

 

[allagaroo]

I've always had sport sedans. BMW 5 series, Audi A6's, Infiniti 37 xS. As I'm getting older I decided on leaning more to comfort and less to sport and leased a 2015 3.8 AWD Signature black/black. I'm pleasantly surprised to say that the handling is more than adequate and although I'm an aggressive driver I don't feel I'm giving up much. In terms of acceleration its not my Infiniti (0-60 in 5.3) but it certainly feels strong enough off the line and passing is fine. Sound system is very good. I would have liked the fog lights, parking sensors and controller but have learned to live without them. The car is a dream on long trips and I really look forward to driving it. Besides when I feel like playing I go looking for curvy roads in my wife's Mini.
In any case, good luck with whatever you decide.

 

[Aquineas]

<snip> I've read that the Genesis owners also get free loaners when the car is being serviced and complimentary oil changes/tire rotations. <snip>

Just please be mindful that I *think* the question of loaners is up to the discretion of the dealer. Some do, some don't, and the ones that do, some of those customers end up being put in an Elantra. I haven't heard of anyone getting complimentary oil changes and tire rotations, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Please note that I'm not trying to talk you out of a Genesis at all, I am just trying to be as objective as possible in informing you what to expect. Personally I'm on my third Genesis (2010 4.6 V8, 2012 5.0 V8, 2015 5.0 V8), and my dealership time has been limited to oil changes with a couple of glitches on my 2010 (auto-hold braking went out, parking sensor went out). For those trips I just dropped my car off.

 

[OneFunGenesis]

complimentary oil changes here. Dont want them touching custom wheels though...

 

[Boulderado]

Just please be mindful that I *think* the question of loaners is up to the discretion of the dealer. Some do, some don't, and the ones that do, some of those customers end up being put in an Elantra. I haven't heard of anyone getting complimentary oil changes and tire rotations, but that doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Please note that I'm not trying to talk you out of a Genesis at all, I am just trying to be as objective as possible in informing you what to expect. Personally I'm on my third Genesis (2010 4.6 V8, 2012 5.0 V8, 2015 5.0 V8), and my dealership time has been limited to oil changes with a couple of glitches on my 2010 (auto-hold braking went out, parking sensor went out). For those trips I just dropped my car off.

Good looking out The Hooniverse editor claims that Hyundai would send a loaner to your house and pick up your Genesis for service:

http://s4.postimg.org/w2y4297pp/First_Drive_2015_Hyundai_Genesis_You_Tube.png

 

[Aquineas]

Good looking out The Hooniverse editor claims that Hyundai would send a loaner to your house and pick up your Genesis for service:

http://s4.postimg.org/w2y4297pp/First_Drive_2015_Hyundai_Genesis_You_Tube.png

They actually did (and may still do) this for the Equus. I haven't heard about that service for the Genesis however. In any case, I wouldn't use it even if it were available; I don't really want others driving my 400+ hp car.

 

[lobsenza]

I believe the safety features that come with the tech package are very important. In order to get the IIHS top safety pick plus, the Genesis must have the tech package. The features of the Ultimate are very nice, but not really safety related (with the possible exception of HUD).

 

[EXBMWGUY]

Welcome to the forum! I would suggest driving as many of the available models as you can, over different kinds of roads and road conditions. The driver "experience" is quite different between them on 2-gen cars, as it is on 1-gen. I personally am waiting for an AWD version of the V8 Ultimate to become available and will happily drive my 2012 R-Spec until then (even in the winter).

 

[Boulderado]

Finally had a chance to test drive an AWD Ultimate V6 today. It was a brief 10 minute drive probably about 6-7 miles total.

Overall I really liked the car. The most surprising thing to me was how light and agile it felt for a 4500 lbs luxury sedan with a very long wheelbase. I had a 2014 Bmw 535 diesel as a loaner for about 10 days and Genesis definitely feels more tight out on the road. It just felt like a quality product right away. I kid you not, doors felt more solid than the 5 series when I closed them. Craftsmanship in the cabin looks definitely on par with Bmw with soft touch materials all around. The only thing missing was the low end punch of a turbo but the car doesn't feel slow by any means. It just picks up and go in a calm and linear fashion with seamless gear changes. Even with the power loss due to the altitude here in Colorado, the car shouldn't have any problems merging or overtaking.

It is definitely an amazing value for such a quality product and could very well be my next car. I only wish they had a shorter wheelbase version with a smaller displacement turbo engine, that would dominate the entire compact luxury/sport sedan category...