Can we swap instrument clusters?

[Volfy]

That is a serious piece of kit. I've never seen an instrument cluster with cast aluminum chassis like that. Looks like it's used as a heat sink, so I'm guessing this thing draws a lot more power than an "analog" cluster. I put quotations around "analog", because these days, they are all digital, the traditional clusters just converts the data it receives from the ECU back into mechanical sweeping needle analog displays.

$1500 is a lot of cash. I can think of better mods to spend that kinda money on. That said, the instrument cluster does account for a huge part of how the driver interacts with the car, so it isn't exactly frivolous.

BTW, looks like it has a receptacle for a GPS connector. I doubt the traditional clusters have that.

 

[Volfy]

The GPS connection is typically referred to as FAKRA-C. The mfr makes them for a lot of different applications, and they are color coded. "Signal Blue" is designated for GPS. You can buy just the GPS antenna, if you need a GPS input for this cluster that your car does not come with. This ebay seller has one for about $10. GPS Antenna FAKRA C Connector 1568MHz 38dB 10ft Cable External Signal Booster 794471960313 | eBay

 

[Slip_Angle]

@Volfy - did you buy this? Where do you see it for $1500?

 

[Volfy]

@Volfy - did you buy this? Where do you see it for $1500?

No, I didn't buy it.

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[Nameneeded]

I just bought it. Am curious if I can mess around with it and see if it’s just plug and play

How have you made out with the swap?

 

[7x62 G0D]

so......you want to trade?

I’d trade.

 

[havanaredenisis]

Maybe? For what it's worth my 2021 3.3T Sport came with the 3D gauge cluster that was only available in Korea the past few years. So maybe that would be an easier swap vs the 2022 3D cluster?

Can i buy your car

 

[Slip_Angle]

In Korea, you could drop your car off at an aftermarket shop where they do retrofit as a service. But here in the US you have to figure out everything yourself...

In my case, I have a 2022 USA-spec G70 3.3T RWD in Sport Prestige trim and want to add the power trunk and full digital cluster.

The procedure for swapping the cluster is outlined in the sevice manual. You need 3 things:

1. A New Cluster
Easy to find and order.

2. Genesis GDS (scanner / programming tool)
The cheapest route is to make friends with someone who has this, know a tech at the dealer, or buy a cloned one. The real ones go for about $2500.

3. The "Variant Code"
This is my current blocker. The variant code tells the car / component what other modules to expect. But how does one find or calculate a variant code?

Once you have those three things the procedure is a piece of cake.

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Did you ever get this done and find the variant code?

 

[DriverDaily]

Did you ever get this done and find the variant code?

No, haven’t done any more research. I decided I don’t really want to spend the money on a new cluster anyways.

 

[Nameneeded]

No, haven’t done any more research. I decided I don’t really want to spend the money on a new cluster anyways.

Maybe there will be more information once the '24 models with it come out. If they have it.

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[Volfy]

If you look at the outline of the 3D digital instrument cluster, it is nowhere near the same shape of the "analog" clusters. The mounting points are different too.

The half digital one is at least the same shape and outline, so it has a much better chance of being retrofitted in place of an analog cluster. If you guys are seriously considering this job, I would suggest looking at that instead.

 

[Slip_Angle]

If you look at the outline of the 3D digital instrument cluster, it is nowhere near the same shape of the "analog" clusters. The mounting points are different too.

The half digital one is at least the same shape and outline, so it has a much better chance of being retrofitted in place of an analog cluster. If you guys are seriously considering this job, I would suggest looking at that instead.

The digital cluster pictured in this thread is not the right one. I think it was from a G80. However someone did get it installed and it mostly worked except the turning cameras and one other thing...

I think this is the correct Part number... 94073-G9061.

 

[Volfy]

The digital cluster pictured in this thread is not the right one. I think it was from a G80. However someone did get it installed and it mostly worked except the turning cameras and one other thing...

I think this is the correct Part number... 94073-G9061.

If you search "Genesis G80 3D instrument cluster" on ebay, you'll see it looks very very different. Same goes for GV70 and GV80. Pretty sure the one I posted above is for the G70. The ebay seller sold 3 already and still has one left for $1300. GENESIS G70 OEM 3D SPEEDOMETER INSTRUMENT CLUSTER SCREEN 94071-G9520 | eBay

Genesis typically has several P/N's for instrument panels for the same car. I wouldn't be surprised the same goes for the G70 3D version.

All these instrument clusters communicate with other control modules via CANbus, so it isn't difficult to draw data stream for most of the parameters (speed, RPM, fuel level, temps, etc.) The problem is getting all the other features that might be trim specific. For the blind spot cameras to display, for example, there needs to be connections to the LEFT/RIGHT cameras directly into the cluster.

Besides, the mounting of the cluster is likely different, possibly even the trim bezel around cluster.

I don't doubt the retrofit is possible given enough tinkering. There is a Russian company that sells CAN Hacker software and hardware to works specifically for Hyundai/Kia/Genesis. I myself am all for tinkering and modding, but I just don't see the return on investment worth it on this one.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Fair enough, though cars are never a return on investment with some exceptions. In my view, the digital cluster would make the driving experience more enjoyable and worth paying a couple grand. We all have our priorities!

The cluster you posted has a picture of a G80 and first Gen G70 on screen, so it may have not been ready for the cameras. The one I posted is newer and I believe made for the 22+ cars. I think someone is looking into trying it, so we'll see if that comes to fruition.

 

[Volfy]

The cluster you posted has a picture of a G80 and first Gen G70 on screen,

Not sure I follow you. The 3D cluster pics I posted in #41 above are from that same ebay listing I posted a link to above. I looked and didn't see any G80... and it clears stated in the listing that it is an OEM G70 cluster.

Anyhoo... I don't doubt the 2024 second refresh G70 will have different instrument cluster. Although, I doubt it would be a lot different. Genesis clearly was not looking to spend major R&D money on the 2nd refresh. It's very similar to the 2022 Stinger refresh. Our 2023 Stinger's cluster has a larger center LCD panel than our '19 Stinger, but the rest of the cluster looks just about identical. The way these things go, it would usually be safer to retrofit a cluster that was meant for the same model year range as the target car you are trying to install into.

I'm certainly not trying to discourage folks from tinkering with it. I just saying - for me - $1500+ and a bunch of time would be better spent elsewhere.

Since I'll more-than-likely be looking at buying a 2.5T G70 in a couple of years, I am very curious how Genesis decks out the new G70's for North America. Supposedly, Brembos and LSD will be standard even with the 2.5T, so who knows what else they'll throw into Santa's sack this year.

 

[Slip_Angle]

Not sure I follow you. The 3D cluster pics I posted in #41 above are from that same ebay listing I posted a link to above. I looked and didn't see any G80... and it clears stated in the listing that it is an OEM G70 cluster.

Anyhoo... I don't doubt the 2024 second refresh G70 will have different instrument cluster. Although, I doubt it would be a lot different. Genesis clearly was not looking to spend major R&D money on the 2nd refresh. It's very similar to the 2022 Stinger refresh. Our 2023 Stinger's cluster has a larger center LCD panel than our '19 Stinger, but the rest of the cluster looks just about identical. The way these things go, it would usually be safer to retrofit a cluster that was meant for the same model year range as the target car you are trying to install into.

I'm certainly not trying to discourage folks from tinkering with it. I just saying - for me - $1500+ and a bunch of time would be better spent elsewhere.

Since I'll more-than-likely be looking at buying a 2.5T G70 in a couple of years, I am very curious how Genesis decks out the new G70's for North America. Supposedly, Brembos and LSD will be standard even with the 2.5T, so who knows what else they'll throw into Santa's sack this year.

My bad. I didn't explain..You don't mind read? lol.... There is a video on YouTube of someone installing this cluster on a 22+ G70. When the unit powers up, it displays a G80 in the middle of the screen and a first gen G70. The installer said they later found out it was from a G80. It does work with the exception of the cameras and the fitment needed some adjustment. I think the part number I posted is specifically for the 22+ G70.

 

[Volfy]

Got you. For a bit there, I was wondering if I was seeing things... or not seeing things.