Considering 2013 Genesis Coupe Track ... questions

[6gear]

Hi all...

I test dove a 2013 coupe V6 GT yesterday. That's all they had on the lot, just one. Hyundai has come along way in quality from their early years. The car looks, feels and drives solid. Interior fit and finish is nice. Seats are really comfortable. Cabin feels spacious for a sport car. Headroom for tall drivers is tight. Leg room is comfortable. The tilt and telescoping steering wheel makes it easy to adjust a perfect driving position. Horsepower and acceleration is quick, easy and can sneak up if not watching the speedometer. Appears to corner well and hug the road. I only have three dislikes about the car, in order of importance:

1) The front grill - It looks like a surgeon made a incision straight across the face with a scalpel and the inside is spewing out. Not a very attractive front grill. I call it the 'wound' looking grill.

2) Three gauges on center console don't add any driving value (accept the boost gauge on the turbo model) - Don't need to check my torque while driving. Average fuel consumption is displayed digitally on the cluster.

3) The fake stitching marks on the dash - I hate when they try to fake customers out with optical illusions. (Same goes for cars with fake carbon fiber printing). It just reinforces that I don't have a leather trimmed dash. Rather have fake stitching left off.

That said, is there an aftermarket front bumper cover replacement? Can an earlier year Genesis coupe front bumper cover work? Any ideas if a refresh in styling will occur In 2014 or 2015?

If you have a 2013 coupe, tell me what you think about it.

Thanks

 

[Goldtitan]

Sounds like you don't like it....Personally, I love my 2013 3.8 Track edition. I was looking 2 months ago at the Infiniti G Coupe and it was 10K more. I then went to the Hyundai dealership next door and test drove the Track edition and felt like you are getting alot for your money. This is not the old Hyundai of long ago...this car is a really good car. The GPS is amazing and the Bluetooth is one of the best in the business. I did my research and no car is perfect...There is always something wrong with anyone you choose. The only gripe I have is that I would have liked sensors in the back or at least a camera that comes up on the Nav screen....But I bet you anything it will come with next generation in 2015. The Brembo brakes stop on a dime...outrageously insane braking. I got the Pearl white one and the lines on the car are beautiful...reminds me of a combination of a Celica and Porsche mixed into one with some awesome steering. I never felt a car hug the road better. Take my advice and go back to the dealership and test drive it again...Make sure its the 3.8 Track Edition. Good luck in your search and Read this! http://www.subcompactculture.com/2012/07/review-2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-38.html

 

[6gear]

Thanks for the reply ...

No on the contrary, I like the car.

I checked out that review link you posted. The writer agreed with me about the three gauges on the center console.

Item 2 & 3 are minor, but its item #1, the front grill design that has me perplexed -- What were the Genesis designers thinking when they agreed it was a pleasing front end is beyond me.

The car isn't selling that well here. One every month or two. The dealers only keep one on the lot and its usually the one that can sell the quickest, like the GT auto.

How does the 3.8 track drive and handle compared to the GT? I know it has 19" wheels so I'm assuming lower profile tires? Does it ride rougher? What has been your average MPG? How does it handle hairpin turns? I know that larger sports cars like Corvettes don't handle well on hairpins or switch backs, and smaller sports cars like Miatas do extraordinarily well on the twisting roads. The Genesis coupe is somewhat of a mid-sized sports car, between the two, so I'm curious as to how well it handles in the same road conditions.

 

[Goldtitan]

When I first looked at the Genesis coupe...I was just like you, I did not care too much for the Grill. But...on the other hand, The cool LED lights in the front turned me on. Don't forget the signal lights on the mirrors too..very nice touch. Its really hard to find a car with a win-win situation. You need to spend big money on those cars..If I had big money I would be driving a BMW M6 Coupe! You can drive yourself crazy shopping for a car. The Genesis coupe has too many pluses for me. The grill..eh but the rest of the car is one hot mama. I think the gauges are cool personally. I don't know why people get hung up on that. You look over the hood to drive , not staring at gauges. A quick look at the gauges and keep pushing the gas! The tires are the 19" ones, they are Bridgestones. I will one day put GoodYear or Hankook tires when needed. I really never kept track of MPG, in fact I don't even bat an eyelash over that because the car is super fun to drive and its a sports car and its going to eat gas. If I was concerned about that I would have bought a Fiat Abarth... And for the handling...all I can so is WOW..WOW..WOW. I feel the car grips the road even while letting the car roll itself. I like the fact you have to put some muscle into it. When I got to the Hyundai dealership, I went straight to the "Track" edition. In the back of my mind I was already sold on the Infiniti coupe.. I told myself if this car does not do it for me I am going back to the Infiniti dealership and get a coupe but guess what happened next?

 

[jsnobles]

I had a salesman at the local Hyundai dealership call me last week to ask if I would be interested in trading in my 2010 on a 2013. I was point blank with him, and told him that Hyundai really dropped the ball on the front end redesign, and I thought it was fugly, and I wouldn't trade ANY vehicle for a 2013 GC. It's one of the most hideous looking front ends on a vehicle that I have seen in a while. I don't care how much horsepower it has....it doesn't make up for that front end!!!!

 

[smurphy522]

Try to keep this in perspective......most people will only see a glimpse of the front end most of the time they will be gazing upon that awesome looking tail. At least that is the case with me.

I'm looking forward to trading my 335i sedan in when me 3.8 track arrives! Sick of getting nickel and dimed by BMW. While the fit and finish on a BMW is far superior it will not outlast the latest generation of Genesis cars.

 

[6gear]

The car actually gets fairly lousy gas millage for today's technology. When I see cars like the Optima, Fusion, and 6, all getting close to 40 MPG + with 280 HP, and the new vette getting close to 30MPG with a V8, the Genesis coupe's fuel economy technology pales in comparison. Sure it's a 380HP car, but it's only a few more years when those 280HP/40MPG cars are pushing 380HP/40+MPG.

The one good thing about buying the car now is that prices will just get more expensive year after year. The track addition does have many of the features car enthusiasts want (although not 'true' dual exhaust). Compared to the competition: Z, G series, its a good value.

With 100k mile 10 year guarantee the car has to fix some of it's warts before I'd consider keeping it 10 years. There's not enough of a fan base yet to support a robust user group/forum and after market kits/parts. Maybe next years model, or in a few years Hyundai will listen to consumer feedback, but not now. I can save my money and wait.

 

[jsnobles]

The car actually gets fairly lousy gas millage for today's technology. When I see cars like the Optima, Fusion, and 6, all getting close to 40 MPG + with 280 HP, and the new vette getting close to 30MPG with a V8, the Genesis coupe's fuel economy technology pales in comparison. Sure it's a 380HP car, but it's only a few more years when those 280HP/40MPG cars are pushing 380HP/40+MPG.

The one good thing about buying the car now is that prices will just get more expensive year after year. The track addition does have many of the features car enthusiasts want (although not 'true' dual exhaust). Compared to the competition: Z, G series, its a good value.

With 100k mile 10 year guarantee the car has to fix some of it's warts before I'd consider keeping it 10 years. There's not enough of a fan base yet to support a robust user group/forum and after market kits/parts. Maybe next years model, or in a few years Hyundai will listen to consumer feedback, but not now. I can save my money and wait.

380HP???????? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?????

 

[Gattsu]

380HP???????? Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot?????

Lol... yours didn’t come came with 380hp?

6gear, did you end up buying the gen coupe? I can see the comparison to the 370Z, the base price is at $33k and weighs considerably less than the genesis coupe. But I don't see the comparison to the optima or fusion other than price (these cost more than my track).

Optima SXL: MSRP $35k
EPA 22/34
2.0L 274hp
curb weight 3,385

Fusion Titanium: MSRP $35k
EPA 22/33
2.0L 240hp
curb weight 3,526

Now, this is both with comparable features to the 3.8 track including nav. Also, the 3.8 gen coupe only gets about 300hp to the wheels from what I've heard and you are looking at a power loss to the wheels with the optima and fusion as well.

 

[Gattsu]

As far as the front bumper goes, it's really not that hard to replace it... Leaning towards the M&S front bumper myself once they are available. KAI has 2 available but I think they are a bit overpriced.

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[danrstevens]

I think the front bumper was one of the improvements. I for one hate the older grill, looks too tame, even boring. It was always my least favorite styling feature on the older model, the point is, it is a matter or opinion. obvisouly those who bought the older style liked is so the initial response of Hyundai owners will be negative. However, my read on general population is a much greater appreciation of the new design.

Don't get the automatic if you are going to track the car. It has several flaws, but one major one - the transmission has vents that allow fluid to slosh out in hard cornering and get on the exhaust causing a nice billow of smoke - they made me get off the track, but it was run 6 before it happened to me, but more experienced and aggressive drivers have reported this happening almost immediately. The worst part is there is no transmission dip stick to fidn out how much fluid I lost and to add some. I know this is becoming industry standard way of doing it, but I hate it with a passion.

Also, always drive with at least the first stage of the traction control disabled, even on city streets, it is dangerous, I almost got broadsided twice pulling out into traffic because I got a little wheel spin and it immediatly disabled the throttle and left me sitting there with no power to get out of the way. They do not mediate the wheel spin with the brakes like more expensive sports cars do. But with the control disengaged, the wheel spin and and resulting slide is very manageable and leaves the car much more driveable (and more fun). I have reported this to Hyundai as a concern.

 

[6gear]

My bad on the horsepower for the Genesis Coupe. I got the last two numbers transposed. I thought it was 384 horsepower it's actually 348 horsepower. I wasn't comparing the fusion and the Optima completely with the Genesis as they do have less horsepower and they do cost more money. I was just making a comparison that those cars have pretty good mile per gallon.

Even though the Corvette is much more money it has a v8 with more horsepower and most owners are saying that it gets about the same miles per gallon as the Genesis in real-world driving. So I guess my concern is that the technology is there to make a fast car without sacrificing fuel economy.

There are a few things that would make me buy the Genesis Coupe right now. Better fuel economy at least 30 miles per gallon or more. Change the three center console gauges inside so they have some real-world functionality. Do we really need to know what the torque is at all times? Change the front bumper styling. Get rid of the fake leather stitching on the dashboard, as it cheapens the car.

I know they sound like minor gripes, but I'm the type of buyer that buys a car and usually keeps it for a long time. so if I buy the car I wanted to be very close to what I'm looking for. In fact if I was to get the Genesis I would purchase an extended warranty. Most people don't worry about small things like this because they trade their car in within five years.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

 

[yellow3.8track]

I bought 2011 track coupe 2 years ago. 3.8 Track with a manual transmission.

Its great. I'm getting 23 to 24 mpg around town, back and forth to work, etc. I was getting around 25 mpg on road trips with the luggage, wife, other stuff but recently (engine getting broken in??) I'm getting 27 to 28 mpg. I seldom do the speed limit and its fun to get on it when it gets above 3000 to 3200 rpm. That overhead cam kick in the seat of the pants really comes on above that rpm.

Handles pretty darn good, too. I don't really race it. I've embarassed some cars/drivers at stop lights, interstate ramps, etc. (BMW's - lower end ones so far, a 370Z, a Mustang GT - older one)

I think, so far, I have no regrets and if it holds up it will be one of the best, most fun to drive cars, I've ever owned.

Only been up to 120 mph once (messing with a Mercedes 320ES on I81 - he didn't want to go faster than 120 and I only wanted to see how fast he would go, he gave up after a few miles and slowed over and pulled into the slow lane).

One of the big plusses is the interior room. I have a buddy who has a 2006 Corvette. The coupe has way more leg room, hip room and shoulder room than the Corvette.

The warranty on the Coupe can't be beat either. I've only had it in once for warranty work (finish on the "leather" steering wheel was coming off and they looked at it, ordered the new steering wheel, set up the appt., called me to bring it in and did the work very quickly and with no complaints.

If I had a complaint with it that would be the paint. It seems to chip very easily compared to my other vehicles. I don't tailgate and I go out of my way to avoid driving behind big trucks and I still have paint chips on the hood, fenders and even the roof.

 

[DRS]

Yea, they save pennies with the paint jobs. Seems like a universal complaint.

 

[Gattsu]

Even though the Corvette is much more money it has a v8 with more horsepower and most owners are saying that it gets about the same miles per gallon as the Genesis in real-world driving. So I guess my concern is that the technology is there to make a fast car without sacrificing fuel economy.

There are a few things that would make me buy the Genesis Coupe right now. Better fuel economy at least 30 miles per gallon or more. Change the three center console gauges inside so they have some real-world functionality. Do we really need to know what the torque is at all times? Change the front bumper styling. Get rid of the fake leather stitching on the dashboard, as it cheapens the car.

I know they sound like minor gripes, but I'm the type of buyer that buys a car and usually keeps it for a long time. so if I buy the car I wanted to be very close to what I'm looking for. In fact if I was to get the Genesis I would purchase an extended warranty. Most people don't worry about small things like this because they trade their car in within five years.

Anyway, that's just my opinion.

I agree, the fuel economy could be better.. I was actually looking at the Veloster turbo for the longest time. Like you, I'm picky about what I want and I couldn't find a VT in the trim/color/MT I wanted. But I also think Hyundai/Kia is leading in fuel economy. Especially when I compare the VT's power and EPA to other cars in the same price range.

As long as you accelerate slow and shift at like 2k RPM's in the geny you can get good gas mileage.. but who wants to do that with all that fun power on standby. I also agree the three center gauges are useless, but I do catch myself glancing over at the MPG gauge. I'm always thinking about what else I could put there... Maybe an aircraft gauge or something funny. I also hope the plastic dash will outlast other materials normally used on dashboards. Speaking of outlasting, I plan on keeping this car till its totaled or I'm too old to drive it (got all the warrantees).

I don't think you have minor gripes at all. We work hard for our money and we don't want to buy something if we are not going to be happy with it. Especially a new car. Good luck!

 

[6gear]

I have Aston Martin taste on a Genisis budget

 

[visitor]

It seems youve talked yourself out of the car. Id suggest looking at some competitors

 

[6gear]

The 2013 Ford Focus ST looks interesting. Smaller car and engine. Let's see ... It has a 2.0 liter, turbo, DOHC direct injected, 4C engine putting out 252HP and 270 torque, with 32 MPG highway. Not bad. It's got good reviews and a noteworthy following, with aftermarket permormace parts. The only thing is the styling is a bit immature, in the catagory of the civic tuner crowd, so to speak. The Genesis is a bit more grown up. I don't know if a 'focus' is a car I'd feel proud to keep for 10+ years. The Genesis maybe.

 

[Gattsu]

I was also looking at the focus ST for a while. When I did the build on the website it came out to $30k with the tech/nav package and sunroof... The VT was $27k maxed out i think. Then I started looking at other cars for $30k just as a price comparison. The Genesis kind of stuck with me almost a year of researching cars. I found a good deal on one in the trim and color I would buy if I bought one. Got it a little over $31K before tax and got my tech/nav package and sunroof. Then again, you can walk into a ford dealer and order exactly what you want. With Hyundai, you are left with what they have available.

 

[DRS]

No brainier between a ST or a WRX for that matter. Genesis Coupe all the way (V6 version) As fast, better built, RWD, less complicated engine to have problems. And I bet with a economy foot as good of hwy or overall gas mileage with the V6.