Dipstick Tip Broken off

[Kraig Wilkinson]

I purchased my Genny at Patrick Hyundai. I serviced it at Elgin Hyundai and got my dipstick "fixed" there. Both dealerships are in IL (Chicagoland area). You can technically go any Hyundai Dealership to have it removed and then contact Hyundai CPO Warranty department.

I went to Patrick Hyundai also. How did you find there service ? Good/Bad? I flew out there from S D and bought my 5.0 there. Got home and had to get cat aligned and all the tires balanced and the front bumper had dirt in the clear coat. They pretty much said oh well. And the salesman told me nav was upgraded!! From reading through this forum seems to be the norm for dealerships? Last time I bought a car through dealer Clinton was just starting his first term as president.

 

[kocyk123]

I am not a fan of their service dept. A while ago I was in the area and suddenly my car got rough idle and check engine light came on. Restarted the car and everything went back to normal. Decided to swing by the dealership so they can scan the codes (my reader was at home and home was far). They said that I would need to make the appointment for the next day. I asked if he can borrow me the scanner so I can check what the codes are and he said it can only be used by a trained technician and he left for the day. I asked if they can give me a loaner because I don't want to drive a car like that. He said no loaners available. I went back home, checked the codes (can't remember what they were but most likely misfire), cleared the codes and problem never came back. I also never came back to Patrick lol. I love Elgin Hyundai. I like to speak with Jose as he knows that I know my car better than anyone else and he never tries to scam me with unnecessary things and he is very honest. I moved couple of months ago and I go to Rosen Hyundai now. Did oil change and rotation. Clean and quick service.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

I am not a fan of their service dept. A while ago I was in the area and suddenly my car got rough idle and check engine light came on. Restarted the car and everything went back to normal. Decided to swing by the dealership so they can scan the codes (my reader was at home and home was far). They said that I would need to make the appointment for the next day. I asked if he can borrow me the scanner so I can check what the codes are and he said it can only be used by a trained technician and he left for the day. I asked if they can give me a loaner because I don't want to drive a car like that. He said no loaners available. I went back home, checked the codes (can't remember what they were but most likely misfire), cleared the codes and problem never came back. I also never came back to Patrick lol. I love Elgin Hyundai. I like to speak with Jose as he knows that I know my car better than anyone else and he never tries to scam me with unnecessary things and he is very honest. I moved couple of months ago and I go to Rosen Hyundai now. Did oil change and rotation. Clean and quick service.

Before I bought my car at Patric Hyundai I ask the salesman to put on the lift so I can look underneath the car. When I went back to their service department it was just very unorganized and dirty I figured that's the way they do the repairs. I don't know but not a big fan of Patric Hyundai. After I got home and told me I had to have the car aligned and tires balanced they said I should have turned around but it's a 650 mile trip for me just learning a new car they never did reimburse me. However I called Hyundai USA up 2 days after I purchased a car and they pay for a whole bumper respray.

 

[kocyk123]

Sorry to hear about your experience. My buying experience wasn't too bad. They tried to sell my some scam service for almost $900 and I said I don't need any of that. The sales guy said that he must sell it to me because the car is CPO. I said that I am not buying the car if they are going to continue this bs. They needed to put new tires on it and I asked if the can do Pirellis P7 or just give me the money they were going to spend on the tires because they usually buy cheap generic tires. The guy said that he cannot do it but he will get me good tires. He purchased new Michelin tires that the car came with originally. Still didn't like it as my preference was Pirellis and I ended up purchasing Pirelli P7 after about 12k miles on MIchelins. The ride became rough and very noisy. Tires started cupping even though they were rotated every 5k miles. I am almost at ~8k miles on Pirellis and they are as quiet and comfortable as when I bought them. Also, no cupping. Sorry for off topic lol

 

[Damagecontrol1]

Just got my oil changed at dealership. I checked oil after they change it and the tip of the dipstick is missing. Is the plastic tip prone to failure? If so what damage is it going to do to the engine if it remains inside? Can it be picked up by the pump or impede the pump from functioning properly? Will the crank shaft pull it into the engine and pulverize it into small pieces that will wreak havoc? They said they would replace the dipstick and drop the pan to look for it. Has anyone else seen this happen?

Just got my oil changed at dealership. I checked oil after they change it and the tip of the dipstick is missing. Is the plastic tip prone to failure? If so what damage is it going to do to the engine if it remains inside? Can it be picked up by the pump or impede the pump from functioning properly? Will the crank shaft pull it into the engine and pulverize it into small pieces that will wreak havoc? They said they would replace the dipstick and drop the pan to look for it. Has anyone else seen this happen?

The same thing just happened to me at a hyundai dealership in Manahawkin, NJ. They dropped the oil pan and found the plastic tip. At first I thought the tech just ripped the dipstick out until I saw the forum today. Genesis needs to go back to the old tried and true all metal stick. The service guy Jim was extremely nice and apologetic about it.

 

[carguy75]

I ordered a 2018 G80 5.0 V8 new oil dipstick today from an online Hyundai/Genesis part website. The dipstick cost me $30 total with shipping. The 2015 and 2018 5.0 model dipstick part# is 26611-3F521
Therefore, I will assume that the dipstick was updated which affects the 2015-2018 model years. I will compare the original 2015 dipstick with the newer 2018 dipstick when my new dipstick arrives.

I decided to just buy a hopefully updated 2018 dipstick before my 2015 dipstick tip breaks.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

I ordered a 2018 G80 5.0 V8 new oil dipstick today from an online Hyundai/Genesis part website. The dipstick cost me $30 total with shipping. The 2015 and 2018 5.0 model part# is 26611-3F521
Therefore, I will assume that the dipstick was updated which affects the 2015-2018 model years. I will compare the original 2015 dipstick with the newer 2018 dipstick when my new dipstick arrives.

You are the best carguy75! Let us know how that works out. I was in the process of ordering a new stick yesterday but got sidetracked.

 

[carguy75]

You are the best carguy75! Let us know how that works out. I was in the process of ordering a new stick yesterday but got sidetracked.

Thank you.

 

[carguy75]

I received my new dipstick and it seems the same as the old one except that the tip is more flexible on the new dip stick(almost like a zip-tie). The old tip flex also, but not as much as the new tip(bends a bit, but seems like it would break). I can see how the old tip will break when placed in the engine if pushed too hard since the oil dipstick tube does have a slight bend where it pushes back against the dipstick.

However, i do not know if the new dipstick uses a more flexible plastic tip or my old tip just got stiffer with age; yet is made out of the same material. Therefore, i will give feedback about if the new dipstick tip also become more rigid over time like the old one.

The new dip stick on top; the old dipstick below.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

I received my new dipstick and it seems the same as the old one except that the tip is more flexible on the new dip stick(almost like a zip-tie). The old tip flex also, but not as much as the new tip(bends a bit, but seems like it would break). I can see how the old tip will break when placed in the engine if pushed too hard since the oil dipstick tube does have a slight bend where it pushes back against the dipstick.

However, i do not know if the new dipstick uses a more flexible plastic tip or my old tip just got stiffer with age; yet is made out of the same material. Therefore, i will give feedback about if the new dipstick tip also become more rigid over time like the old one.

The new dip stick on top; the old dipstick below.

Thanks carguy75! I am going to get me one of them. As of right now the car is sitting covered up in 55degree garage! It is 6 degrees here today and the roads are all salted up. So now is a good time to take care of the lower covers and dipstick replace. I have all the correct part numbers thanks to you! Thanks once again carguy75!

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[DSXMachina]

FWIW...I'm a mechanic, have been one for 42 years after giving up my life as an engineer (Quality and Mechanical). That piece of plastic will not cause any harm, ever. First it was made to be immersed in oil so it isn't going to dissolve. Second, it has sunk to the bottom of your oil pan, never to rise up any higher. Third, if by some chance it did get sucked up against the oil strainer it could not possibly get through it, even if it breaks into pieces. Fourth, if by some miracle it got past the strainer (which could not happen with the strainer in place), not even the smallest particle of it will make it past the oil filter. And there would be particles because the oil pump would have sliced and diced it to pieces. So it's going to sit there forever in your pan.
If by some miracle the plastic tip should rise up and float around in the crankcase there's absolutely nothing it could harm. The only things it's exposed to are the crankshaft, connecting rods and the underneath of the pistons. It would be impossible for the piece to get into the rod or main journals. In short, that little plastic piece may as well not even exist.

 

[carguy75]

Thanks carguy75! I am going to get me one of them. As of right now the car is sitting covered up in 55degree garage! It is 6 degrees here today and the roads are all salted up. So now is a good time to take care of the lower covers and dipstick replace. I have all the correct part numbers thanks to you! Thanks once again carguy75!

You are welcome! Stay warm and good luck.

 

[carguy75]

FWIW...I'm a mechanic, have been one for 42 years after giving up my life as an engineer (Quality and Mechanical). That piece of plastic will not cause any harm, ever. First it was made to be immersed in oil so it isn't going to dissolve. Second, it has sunk to the bottom of your oil pan, never to rise up any higher. Third, if by some chance it did get sucked up against the oil strainer it could not possibly get through it, even if it breaks into pieces. Fourth, if by some miracle it got past the strainer (which could not happen with the strainer in place), not even the smallest particle of it will make it past the oil filter. And there would be particles because the oil pump would have sliced and diced it to pieces. So it's going to sit there forever in your pan.
If by some miracle the plastic tip should rise up and float around in the crankcase there's absolutely nothing it could harm. The only things it's exposed to are the crankshaft, connecting rods and the underneath of the pistons. It would be impossible for the piece to get into the rod or main journals. In short, that little plastic piece may as well not even exist.

What you say could very well be true, however I feel better just paying only $25 for a new dipstick that seems to be more flexible to hopefully prevent the broken tip problem from ever happening in the first place.

Plus, I need to be able to check my oil level so I need a working dipstick since I do my own oil changes or a more reliable one.

 

[Kraig Wilkinson]

FWIW...I'm a mechanic, have been one for 42 years after giving up my life as an engineer (Quality and Mechanical). That piece of plastic will not cause any harm, ever. First it was made to be immersed in oil so it isn't going to dissolve. Second, it has sunk to the bottom of your oil pan, never to rise up any higher. Third, if by some chance it did get sucked up against the oil strainer it could not possibly get through it, even if it breaks into pieces. Fourth, if by some miracle it got past the strainer (which could not happen with the strainer in place), not even the smallest particle of it will make it past the oil filter. And there would be particles because the oil pump would have sliced and diced it to pieces. So it's going to sit there forever in your pan.
If by some miracle the plastic tip should rise up and float around in the crankcase there's absolutely nothing it could harm. The only things it's exposed to are the crankshaft, connecting rods and the underneath of the pistons. It would be impossible for the piece to get into the rod or main journals. In short, that little plastic piece may as well not even exist.

I agree 100% with you! I see some things in the bottom of oil pans that would make your head spin. 15liter ISX Cummins engines, all the same stuff! My OCD would let me forget that it was in there . And like you said DSXMachina it would not hurt anything except my conscious!

 

[EdP]

What you say could very well be true, however I feel better just paying only $25 for a new dipstick that seems to be more flexible to hopefully prevent the broken tip problem from ever happening in the first place.

Plus, I need to be able to check my oil level so I need a working dipstick since I do my own oil changes or a more reliable one.

Yeah, the price of the stick is not bad but the $160 to have the dealer install it it kind of pricey. If you DIY, make sure it does not void your warranty. (I hope I don't need a smiley face to explain this)

 

[DSXMachina]

Yeah, the price of the stick is not bad but the $160 to have the dealer install it it kind of pricey. If you DIY, make sure it does not void your warranty. (I hope I don't need a smiley face to explain this)

Of course you need a smiley face! Humor, nuance, hyperbole and tongue-in-cheek does not work on the 'net. OMG IT COULD VOID MY WARRANTY!!!! or not...

 

[sixstring]

FWIW...I'm a mechanic, have been one for 42 years after giving up my life as an engineer (Quality and Mechanical). That piece of plastic will not cause any harm, ever. First it was made to be immersed in oil so it isn't going to dissolve. Second, it has sunk to the bottom of your oil pan, never to rise up any higher. Third, if by some chance it did get sucked up against the oil strainer it could not possibly get through it, even if it breaks into pieces. Fourth, if by some miracle it got past the strainer (which could not happen with the strainer in place), not even the smallest particle of it will make it past the oil filter. And there would be particles because the oil pump would have sliced and diced it to pieces. So it's going to sit there forever in your pan.
If by some miracle the plastic tip should rise up and float around in the crankcase there's absolutely nothing it could harm. The only things it's exposed to are the crankshaft, connecting rods and the underneath of the pistons. It would be impossible for the piece to get into the rod or main journals. In short, that little plastic piece may as well not even exist.

This is good to know because Goodyear just broke my dipstick during an oil change, and of course denied it afterwards. I've ordered a new one as well. Nice to know I don't need to worry about damage or the exorbitant cost of an oil pan drop to hunt for a harmless piece of plastic. Thanks!

 

[DSXMachina]

This is good to know because Goodyear just broke my dipstick during an oil change, and of course denied it afterwards. I've ordered a new one as well. Nice to know I don't need to worry about damage or the exorbitant cost of an oil pan drop to hunt for a harmless piece of plastic. Thanks!

Yup, pretend it isn't there. Like Kraig Wilkinson said, you wouldn't believe what we find in oil pans. None of it causing any harm. Most of the junk I've found in oil pans left the factory that way. Molding flash from aluminum parts, mold sand, bottle caps, assembly hardware. Also, there are oil return channels in the cylinder heads where substantial amounts of non pressurized oil from the valve train/cam areas drains back to the sump. Mechanics drop screws and nuts down these drains while doing repairs and they all end up harmlessly in the sump. As our New Yawk members say, Fahgeddaboudit!

 

[Ragnar]

Yep,absolutely true. Had a 74 Pontiac grandville that the harmonic balancer actually Shattered,on removing it a piece fell back in the oil pan.
That piece remained there for several years until I finally replaced the engine for unrelated reasons. Lol

 

[G-466453]

It shouldn't be a plastic tip! Not a very good design!