Do you fully trust your self pacing cruise control?

[Philip2]

How much confidence you have in your pacing cruise control.?

I find that if I'm coming up fast on a stopped car I will unconsciously override the system and put my foot on the brake.

How about you? Do you fully trust anything electronic?

 

[csu87]

i trust it for highway driving most of the time.

if im coming up on a stopped car or extremely slow car, ill override it. Or if im in the mountains on winding roads, it will sometimes have issues on corners.

 

[joegr]

The owner's manual specifically says that it may not react or react correctly to a stopped car. I always brake for that.

 

[EdP]

i trust it for highway driving most of the time.

if im coming up on a stopped car or extremely slow car, ill override it. Or if im in the mountains on winding roads, it will sometimes have issues on corners.

Yes, on curves it loses sight of the car in front so I tend not to use it there.

On the highway it is very good and can follow for miles with no problem. Same on some stop and go where it takes away a lot of the braking,

It is a computer though and cannot react like the brain of an experienced driver, It can sense the car in front of you but you can see brake lights three cars ahead and react,
i have at times hit the brake sooner than the CC would but I think it would do ok itself.

 

[Starflyer]

I've given up "hurry" most of the time and set the adaptive cruise control on highways to around the speed limit which means I seldom close in on traffic ahead unless it's slowing down for some reason. I don't care for autobraking unless it's going to prevent a rear ender for me by coming up on traffic ahead. I'm a firm believer in saving my brakes by excessive braking.

 

[Speeder]

i've found it much better at following than the system in my 2019 G80 which I was confident with. It will take several months to get used to it. When approaching stopped vehicles I'll do the braking until about 100 foot then reengage the Cruise Control and let it finish the approach

 

[speedle]

That sounds like the way to go. If I get the guts to try it!

 

[Philip2]

1. Has there ever been an instance of ANY maker's self pacing cruise control failing on a straight road and causing a rear ender?
2. Does anyone know why my cruise would often shut off saying "conditions not met" on my 2015 G80 but this never happens on my 19 G70?

 

[ckon]

That sounds like the way to go. If I get the guts to try it!

I trust it 99.5% in stop and go traffic. Will go miles w/o touching gas or brake. I think this the fourth car I’ve had w/ it and it just keeps getting better w/ each.

 

[ckon]

1. Has there ever been an instance of ANY maker's self pacing cruise control failing on a straight road and causing a rear ender?
2. Does anyone know why my cruise would often shut off saying "conditions not met" on my 2015 G80 but this never happens on my 19 G70?

The only failure I had was w/ our 2010 Genesis as it came close to the rear of a pickup and lost sight of it cuz the front end was looking below the trucks bumper as it got close. I caught it though. Maybe that’s the reason they moved the radar sensor up higher on later models.

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[EdP]

The only failure I had was w/ our 2010 Genesis as it came close to the rear of a pickup and lost sight of it cuz the front end was looking below the trucks bumper as it got close. I caught it though. Maybe that’s the reason they moved the radar sensor up higher on later models.

Never had a problem with a normal pickup but it did not follow one of those really jacked up jobs. Consequently, I do take a look out the window once in a while to see what is going on.

 

[ckon]

Never had a problem with a normal pickup but it did not follow one of those really jacked up jobs. Consequently, I do take a look out the window once in a while to see what is going on.

Yeah. This one was pretty high.

 

[Comp625]

Is there any difference between the 2018-2021 G80's Adaptive Cruise Control & Lane Keep Assist vs. the 2019-2021 G70's Adaptive Cruise Control & Lane Keep Assist?

I remember reading something a while back about how the G80 had an older LKA that was kinda bad and an older ACC that was untrustworthy. Not sure if Hyundai improved it with the G70s.

 

[Philip2]

Is there any difference between the 2018-2021 G80's Adaptive Cruise Control & Lane Keep Assist vs. the 2019-2021 G70's Adaptive Cruise Control & Lane Keep Assist?

I remember reading something a while back about how the G80 had an older LKA that was kinda bad and an older ACC that was untrustworthy. Not sure if Hyundai improved it with the G70s.

Like I said, the cruise control whould shut off occasionally "conditions not met" in my 15 G80 but never in my 19 G70

 

[SuperKing]

1. Has there ever been an instance of ANY maker's self pacing cruise control failing on a straight road and causing a rear ender?
2. Does anyone know why my cruise would often shut off saying "conditions not met" on my 2015 G80 but this never happens on my 19 G70?

1. I'm sure there's plenty but not many make it to the news. The problem is, radar only tracks moving objects so it won't see a stopped car. The times it does stop for a stopped car is because the car was rolling enough for the radar to pick it up. The other option is sonar but that's only good for short distances which is why that's used for parking sensors. The future is vision + AI, maybe lidar if they can shrink it enough to not have a twirling thing on the roof.

2. My 2015 doesn't engage cruise under 30kph but once engaged it'll work down to 0kph. I just don't use it in stop and go though, it's just not smooth. Even on a highway, it'll gut check you if a car cuts in 20ft ahead of you


I never trust these systems 100% at least until cars no longer have human controls then I wouldn't have a choice but to trust them 100%. I often drive with OpenPilot engaged and I'm always making a correction here and there when I don't like what it's doing or there's a situation I know it can't handle.

 

[Philip2]

1. I'm sure there's plenty but not many make it to the news. The problem is, radar only tracks moving objects so it won't see a stopped car. The times it does stop for a stopped car is because the car was rolling enough for the radar to pick it up. The other option is sonar but that's only good for short distances which is why that's used for parking sensors. The future is vision + AI, maybe lidar if they can shrink it enough to not have a twirling thing on the roof.

2. My 2015 doesn't engage cruise under 30kph but once engaged it'll work down to 0kph. I just don't use it in stop and go though, it's just not smooth. Even on a highway, it'll gut check you if a car cuts in 20ft ahead of you


I never trust these systems 100% at least until cars no longer have human controls then I wouldn't have a choice but to trust them 100%. I often drive with OpenPilot engaged and I'm always making a correction here and there when I don't like what it's doing or there's a situation I know it can't handle.

I'm not sure about your comment 1. The car has the capability to slam on the brakes if you are going to crash,

 

[SuperKing]

I'm not sure about your comment 1. The car has the capability to slam on the brakes if you are going to crash,

Test it out, turn off the parking sensors so you're only using the radar when you leave a parking spot. Instead of pulling out, just drive forward into the parked car in front. Guaranteed it won't see it and you'll hit the car.

The couple of times I was flashed the collision warning, the car in front was still moving forward.

New cars can stay in their lane—but might not stop for parked cars

Drivers complain of need for “constant monitoring and intervention.”…

arstechnica.com

 

[Mcc]

Test it out, turn off the parking sensors so you're only using the radar when you leave a parking spot. Instead of pulling out, just drive forward into the parked car in front. Guaranteed it won't see it and you'll hit the car.

You might be right but you test won’t prove your point. I don’t think you can get above 5mph going forward in a parking spot.

Prerequisite for activation
The AEB gets ready to be activated,
when the AEB is selected on the
LCD display, and when the following
prerequisites are satisfied.
- The E S C (Electronic Stability
Control) is activated.
- To enable the system to detect
pedestrians ahead, the vehicle
driving speed must be betwe en 5 -
45 mph (8 - 70 km/h).
- To enable the system to detect a
vehicle ahead, the vehicle driving
spe ed must be betwe en 5 - 110
mph (8 - 180 km/h).

 

[SuperKing]

You might be right but you test won’t prove your point. I don’t think you can get above 5mph going forward in a parking spot.

Prerequisite for activation
The AEB gets ready to be activated,
when the AEB is selected on the
LCD display, and when the following
prerequisites are satisfied.
- The E S C (Electronic Stability
Control) is activated.
- To enable the system to detect
pedestrians ahead, the vehicle
driving speed must be betwe en 5 -
45 mph (8 - 70 km/h).
- To enable the system to detect a
vehicle ahead, the vehicle driving
spe ed must be betwe en 5 - 110
mph (8 - 180 km/h).

0-60 in 5 seconds takes 1.5ft to get up to 5mph... lol

 

[Philip2]

Test it out, turn off the parking sensors so you're only using the radar when you leave a parking spot. Instead of pulling out, just drive forward into the parked car in front. Guaranteed it won't see it and you'll hit the car.

The couple of times I was flashed the collision warning, the car in front was still moving forward.

New cars can stay in their lane—but might not stop for parked cars

Drivers complain of need for “constant monitoring and intervention.”…

arstechnica.com

The collision warning reacts to distance and rate of approach of the car in front of you.
Still confused. I thought if the collision warning comes on and you do not break accordingly, it will slam on the breaks on its own.

Guys?