Electric GV70

[Blitz118]

The owner's manual (page 5-75) also refers to ambient lighting as "Mood lamps" for the ambient lights on the door panels. The manual states the following:
The lamp turns on when Setup>
Vehicle > Lights > Ambient Light
is selected from the infotainment
system.

I have the same setup, but my ambient lighting does not illuminate the door panel like the picture I quoted. Does your lighting work?

 

[rbreeze]

I have the same setup, but my ambient lighting does not illuminate the door panel like the picture I quoted. Does your lighting work?

Yes, mine works fine - I currently have the color set to 'Amethyst Purple'. Make sure the Brightness control is not set to 0 (zero) - the range of adjustment is 0 to 10. I have mine set to brightness level 10.

 

[Blitz118]

Yes, mine works fine - I currently have the color set to 'Amethyst Purple'. Make sure the Brightness control is not set to 0 (zero) - the range of adjustment is 0 to 10. I have mine set to brightness level 10.

I have the ambient lighting that goes around the interior, and the lighting level is set to 10, but my door panel does not light up like in the picture.

 

[rbreeze]

I have the ambient lighting that goes around the interior, and the lighting level is set to 10, but my door panel does not light up like in the picture.

In the picture (i.e. looking at the side of the front passenger door armrest) it appears the door panel ambient lighting is set to either white or light blue. Are you getting no ambient light effect at all from that area, or are you getting light but are dissatisfied with the color you are seeing?

 

[oilerlord]

Hey guys, first post.

I'm a former EV owner from Canada who drove a 2014 Mercedes B250 electric that I imported from the US. I loved it, and decided to go with a model Y in 2021. Long story short, I sold the B250 the day before I picked up the car. The car arrived with a hood that wouldn't close (from the Tesla factory) along with paint issues and other problems so I walked away from the deal and bought a Lexus UX250h.

I do like my UX250h but it's a bit underpowered for my taste.

We're in Arizona, and saw a GV70e cruising down the 202. Honestly, I didn't know it was an EV until I recognized the "clean air" license plate and noticed the lack of a tailpipe. What a gorgeous car. I've been intrigued by Genesis from the start.

I did figure a Kia EV6 was going to be my next car but after checking out the GV70e in a showroom, I was 95% sold before even driving it. It's a beautiful machine inside and out, with paint and build quality no Tesla can match and definitely a step up from the Lexus too. I like that the GV70e is a sleeper, in that it doesn't scream "Look! I'm an EV!!" like the EV6 does. It's just understated luxury, with hints of Bentley.

If any of you can post some of your first year / 20,000KM experience with your GV70e - I'd appreciate that.

 

[Blitz118]

In the picture (i.e. looking at the side of the front passenger door armrest) it appears the door panel ambient lighting is set to either white or light blue. Are you getting no ambient light effect at all from that area, or are you getting light but are dissatisfied with the color you are seeing?

I'm not getting any ambient lighting from the door panel.

 

[rbreeze]

I'm not getting any ambient lighting from the door panel.

If you're not getting any ambient lighting from any door panel with the brightness control set to 10, then you need to book a service appointment with your local Genesis distributor.

 

[Wrigbay]

When exiting the car how does one lock all doors without the key fob. I tried the lock button on the door but it does not seem to work?

 

[steveinarizona]

If any of you can post some of your first year / 20,000KM experience with your GV70e - I'd appreciate that.

I don't so I can't but I do have about 16 months and 14K miles of experience driving the GV60 Performance in Arizona. It has the same powertrain. There were a few recalls but my dealer took care of them and provided me with excellent loaners. I absolutely love the car and it is NOT underpowered and I would definitely do it again.

If you read through this forum you will see that the biggest potential negative issue here in the US is service from some dealerships. Mine, Genesis of Scottsdale, has been excellent. But others have had hellish experiences. But Canada has a different system. There are some Canadians here who can share experiences and have done so. You can try searching for "Canada" but that won't necessarily get you all the Canadian posts but it should at least get you to your fellow Canadians and you can then search for them.

Are you planning to drive back and forth or keep it in one of the two locations? If the latter and you plan to keep it in Arizona, then I can tell you it would work great so long as you are reasonably close to North scottsdale or Gilbert (same dealer). But if you are planning to drive back and forth, I don't know how good the north/south charging network is. The range is not great on the Genesis although it is capable of very fast charging IF there are chargers and they are able to do fast charging.

I have a neighbor who has, and loves, the new Kia EV6 GT. But my view is that EVs are heavy so horsepower somewhere in the 400s works well but I think that anything over 500 is probably unnecessary. My little pocket rocket is 490 if one presses the boost button and 430 without it. So is the 70. I prefer the luxury of the GV60P over the extra horsepower of the EV6 GT.

The cars are great. The experience may depend upon where you are and where you will be using it.

 

[Wolf359fb]

Hey guys, first post.

I'm a former EV owner from Canada who drove a 2014 Mercedes B250 electric that I imported from the US. I loved it, and decided to go with a model Y in 2021. Long story short, I sold the B250 the day before I picked up the car. The car arrived with a hood that wouldn't close (from the Tesla factory) along with paint issues and other problems so I walked away from the deal and bought a Lexus UX250h.

I do like my UX250h but it's a bit underpowered for my taste.

We're in Arizona, and saw a GV70e cruising down the 202. Honestly, I didn't know it was an EV until I recognized the "clean air" license plate and noticed the lack of a tailpipe. What a gorgeous car. I've been intrigued by Genesis from the start.

I did figure a Kia EV6 was going to be my next car but after checking out the GV70e in a showroom, I was 95% sold before even driving it. It's a beautiful machine inside and out, with paint and build quality no Tesla can match and definitely a step up from the Lexus too. I like that the GV70e is a sleeper, in that it doesn't scream "Look! I'm an EV!!" like the EV6 does. It's just understated luxury, with hints of Bentley.

If any of you can post some of your first year / 20,000KM experience with your GV70e - I'd appreciate that.

Hi Oilerlord and welcome to the club!

I took delivery of my electric GV70 end of last May, going on a year soon, and as per the app am at 16 525km (Not quite the 20K you were hoping for but getting there).

I had the recalls regarding the ICCU performed on the car, got an occasional "Check vehicle electric system" message that cleared out by itself, it happened 4 times in about 6 months but I was never quick enough to snap a picture of it before it disappeared, and it must have been pretty mild as it left no trace in the error logs. Other than that, nothing to say, still on original wiper blades, zero wear and tear so far. I'm in the Québec province, I'd like to say what the range is in -25C, but we had too mild a winter this year for that to happen.

Now if I compare with my previous car, a RAV4 hybrid, after a first year it's already stellar. The RAV4's dash would lit up like a Christmas tree below -15C with all sorts of errors related to the hybrid system that once left me stranded and were only fixed with a technical bulletin during the next winter (Where it was found that ice that had lodged through the half inch wide gap on top of the hatch caused one of the hinges to break and I was getting closer to losing said hatch eventually). Also had a fuel pump replaced under a recall and always was scared the car would just die on me when news of the cablegate came out. So for me Toyota's legendary reliability turned out to be nothing more than an urban legend.

No car is perfect, eventually something will break down on the GV70, but so far it hasn't happened and it's off to a better start than any other car I've owned. And no you wouldn't be short on power with this one!

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[rbreeze]

When exiting the car how does one lock all doors without the key fob. I tried the lock button on the door but it does not seem to work?

Generally speaking, you cannot lock all doors without the key fob on our eGV70 vehicles. With that said, there's a very unconventional way to do it without the key fob, as follows:

From the driver's seat (and with all doors closed) lock all doors using the door lock button on the door panel. Open the driver's door, exit the vehicle and close the door. Remove the lock cover to the immediate right of the driver's door handle and lock the door using the extra emergency mechanical key that was provided with the vehicle.
It's a very cumbersome process, but it's 'doable'.

 

[oilerlord]

Are you planning to drive back and forth or keep it in one of the two locations? If the latter and you plan to keep it in Arizona, then I can tell you it would work great so long as you are reasonably close to North scottsdale or Gilbert (same dealer). But if you are planning to drive back and forth, I don't know how good the north/south charging network is. The range is not great on the Genesis although it is capable of very fast charging IF there are chargers and they are able to do fast charging.

We drive our BMW X3 diesel to Arizona and back to Canada. While I'm sure it's possible to make a trek like that in an EV, figuring out where the next charging station is, and if a port is available, is a concern we'd rather not deal with.

Like our small Lexus, almost all of our city miles will go on the EV. To me, 230-ish miles of range is "great" given I was able to make do with the B250e's very limited range. We recently upgraded our home electric to 200 amps, so I might upgrade my 30A L2 charger to 50A to take advantage of the GV70s 10.5 kW charging.

 

[Wolf359fb]

We drive our BMW X3 diesel to Arizona and back to Canada. While I'm sure it's possible to make a trek like that in an EV, figuring out where the next charging station is, and if a port is available, is a concern we'd rather not deal with.

Like our small Lexus, almost all of our city miles will go on the EV. To me, 230-ish miles of range is "great" given I was able to make do with the B250e's very limited range. We recently upgraded our home electric to 200 amps, so I might upgrade my 30A L2 charger to 50A to take advantage of the GV70s 10.5 kW charging.

Come Q1 2025, you will be able to get an adapter opening the whole Tesla network, that should alleviate longer trips as well!

 

[steveinarizona]

We drive our BMW X3 diesel to Arizona and back to Canada. While I'm sure it's possible to make a trek like that in an EV, figuring out where the next charging station is, and if a port is available, is a concern we'd rather not deal with.

Like our small Lexus, almost all of our city miles will go on the EV. To me, 230-ish miles of range is "great" given I was able to make do with the B250e's very limited range. We recently upgraded our home electric to 200 amps, so I might upgrade my 30A L2 charger to 50A to take advantage of the GV70s 10.5 kW charging.

While I have a 50 amp line (which means I am charging at 40 amps continuous) and appropriate Chargepoint Flex EVSE, I usually only take a couple of hours to get back to 80%. So unless your charging window is pretty small, your 30 amp EVSE should be adequate to do overnight charging and get you back to 80%.

BTW, what power (amp) line is going into your EVSE? Unless you have a 50 amp or greater line going in, you will have to upgrade the electrical line as well.

There is a problem with Hyundai/Kia/Genesis chargers on L2...you most likely will only get about 9 kw charging. So...IMO, unless you are anxious to future proof your home, you can probably avoid spending the money on upgrading the EVSE. By the time you need to do so, the technology will have changed again. For example, inductive wireless charging,. And solid state batteries, etc. might require other changes. So waiting is, again, probably a better bet.

 

[oilerlord]

Now if I compare with my previous car, a RAV4 hybrid, after a first year it's already stellar. The RAV4's dash would lit up like a Christmas tree below -15C with all sorts of errors related to the hybrid system that once left me stranded and were only fixed with a technical bulletin during the next winter (Where it was found that ice that had lodged through the half inch wide gap on top of the hatch caused one of the hinges to break and I was getting closer to losing said hatch eventually). Also had a fuel pump replaced under a recall and always was scared the car would just die on me when news of the cablegate came out. So for me Toyota's legendary reliability turned out to be nothing more than an urban legend.

No car is perfect, eventually something will break down on the GV70, but so far it hasn't happened and it's off to a better start than any other car I've owned. And no you wouldn't be short on power with this one!

After the Tesla debacle, I needed a car. This was my first Lexus...the UX is quirky but it fit the bill.

Most of all, I just miss the quiet and and smooth power delivery that EV's have. I was thinking of giving a Model Y another shot but after seeing one in a showroom with poor paint and panel gaps, I can't get there. Maybe I'm in the minority that figures the rest of the EV should be built as well as the battery that powers it.

Like you said, no car is perfect and there are compromises to be made.

I just won't compromise on quality, and attention to detail.

 

[oilerlord]

While I have a 50 amp line (which means I am charging at 40 amps continuous) and appropriate Chargepoint Flex EVSE, I usually only take a couple of hours to get back to 80%. So unless your charging window is pretty small, your 30 amp EVSE should be adequate to do overnight charging and get you back to 80%.

BTW, what power (amp) line is going into your EVSE? Unless you have a 50 amp or greater line going in, you will have to upgrade the electrical line as well.

There is a problem with Hyundai/Kia/Genesis chargers on L2...you most likely will only get about 9 kw charging. So...IMO, unless you are anxious to future proof your home, you can probably avoid spending the money on upgrading the EVSE. By the time you need to do so, the technology will have changed again. For example, inductive wireless charging,. And solid state batteries, etc. might require other changes. So waiting is, again, probably a better bet.

Our main panel is in the garage, so adding a 60A breaker wouldn't be and issue but since you mentioned 9 kW is what I could expect - I'll be fine charging with my existing 7.2 kW.

I'll be doing the 80% / 20% thing so I won't be charging from zero anyway.

Thanks for the reply.

 

[Jaws]

I'm not getting any ambient lighting from the door panel.

Canadian spec cars get the lighted door panels. US spec cars do not.

 

[descartesfool]

I also have a 60A panel in the garage, with a 50A breaker feeding a NEMA L6-50R receptacle. I bought a ChargePoint Home Flex Level 2 EV Charger than can accommodate a 60A hard wired connection, but I chose one that is supplied with a 50A plug to make it easily replaceable or portable. It charges at a 9.20 kW rate as indicated by the Chargepoint app on my iPhone. I set our Genesis GV70 to charge to 100% on AC charging, as I have not seen any actual information from Genesis about any longevity issues with the battery when charging it regularly to 100% using a Level 2 AC charger. There are endless rumours about not charging to 100%, but if someone has something from the Genesis factory (not a dealer), I would be happy to see a link or a PDF. Any info on DC charging would be good to know as well, although so far I have only charged at home with AC.

In the PDF version of the owner's manual I searched, in the section titled
Precautions when Using the
High Voltage Battery
it says:

Frequent DC charging may decrease
high voltage battery life.

and also :

To keep the battery in optimal
condition, AC charging is
recommended. Fully charging the
battery when it is 20 % or lower
helps keep the battery in optimal
condition. (Charging once a month or
more is recommended.)

Manual also says in the section titled CHARGING YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE :

Battery performance and durability can deteriorate if the DC charger is used
constantly.
Use of DC charge should be minimized in order to help prolong high voltage battery
life.

and

AC charge - Takes about 7 hours 20 minutes at room temperature when charged to
100%

The only reference to charging to 80% in the manual I found relates to DC charging.

 

[Wrigbay]

I also have a 60A panel in the garage, with a 50A breaker feeding a NEMA L6-50R receptacle. I bought a ChargePoint Home Flex Level 2 EV Charger than can accommodate a 60A hard wired connection, but I chose one that is supplied with a 50A plug to make it easily replaceable or portable. It charges at a 9.20 kW rate as indicated by the Chargepoint app on my iPhone. I set our Genesis GV70 to charge to 100% on AC charging, as I have not seen any actual information from Genesis about any longevity issues with the battery when charging it regularly to 100% using a Level 2 AC charger. There are endless rumours about not charging to 100%, but if someone has something from the Genesis factory (not a dealer), I would be happy to see a link or a PDF. Any info on DC charging would be good to know as well, although so far I have only charged at home with AC.

In the PDF version of the owner's manual I searched, in the section titled
Precautions when Using the
High Voltage Battery
it says:

Frequent DC charging may decrease
high voltage battery life.

and also :

To keep the battery in optimal
condition, AC charging is
recommended. Fully charging the
battery when it is 20 % or lower
helps keep the battery in optimal
condition. (Charging once a month or
more is recommended.)

Manual also says in the section titled CHARGING YOUR ELECTRIC VEHICLE :

Battery performance and durability can deteriorate if the DC charger is used
constantly.
Use of DC charge should be minimized in order to help prolong high voltage battery
life.

and

AC charge - Takes about 7 hours 20 minutes at room temperature when charged to
100%

The only reference to charging to 80% in the manual I found relates to DC charging.

I ended up hardwiring from my 60 amp fuse. But in the end if you are charging overnight it doesn't really matter whether you use a plug-in or a hard wire, you will not notice a difference in charging time.

 

[oilerlord]

I set our Genesis GV70 to charge to 100% on AC charging, as I have not seen any actual information from Genesis about any longevity issues with the battery when charging it regularly to 100% using a Level 2 AC charger. There are endless rumours about not charging to 100%, but if someone has something from the Genesis factory (not a dealer), I would be happy to see a link or a PDF.

"Similar to an EV, Li-ion in satellites must also endure a lifespan of 8 years and more. To achieve this, the cells are charged to only 3.90V/cell and lower. An interesting discovery was made by NASA in that Li-ion dwelling above 4.10V/cell tend to decompose due to electrolyte oxidation on the cathode, while those charged to lower voltages lose capacity due to the SEI buildup on the anode.

NASA reports that once Li-ion passes the 8 year mark after having delivered about 40,000 cycles in a satellite, cell deterioration caused by this phenomenon progresses quickly. Charging to 3.92V/cell appears to provide the best compromise in term of maximum longevity, but this reduces the capacity to only about 60 percent"

BU-808b: What Causes Li-ion to Die?

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batteryuniversity.com

Only because you asked. Given the abundance of studies available on this, I don't think it's rumor.

Rumor is more about the actual degradation people notice over 6-8 years because most people lease anyway and could care less about it.