Genesis Free NACS Adapter Thread: Post Your Updates

[EVsquatch]

Per a Facebook forum post, the Genesis version of the adapter comes with a little carrying case…

Very nice touch. Now where the bleep is my email, Genesis?

 

[GreyGV60]

Today was my 2nd time charging at a Supercharger with the A2Z adapter. No issues at all with the adapter and it started charging right away. My frustration was lining up the car correctly as the Supercharger cable is so short. The first Time I charged at a Supercharger, the Superchargers were arranged on the right and left side of the vehicle when I backed into the space. Today I charged at a different Supercharger station and the charger was right behind the car, and I had to line it up just right for the the cable to be long enough to plug it into the car. Maybe the process will become easier for me as I charge more often at a Supercharger. I can't wait for these V3 superchargers to be upgraded to a V4 with the longer cables. I'm also still waiting for A2Z to offer their DC extension cables for sale. It's also great news that some of you will be receiving your Genesis adapter (I still have not received my "email" from Genesis).

 

[EVsquatch]

I wouldn't hold my breath on the DC extension cables. They are fundamentally a bad idea and I think A2Z is going to take their time testing these since the potential for very bad things to happen is fairly high. The Tesla SC are liquid cooled. Any extension cable, by default, can't be and your sped woud likely get down regulated by the station if it detects too much heat build-up. I'm personally not interested in paying EM $$$ to charge at Chevy Bolt speeds because I'm using an extension cable.

But, maybe I'm completely wrong. I hope I am, but I'm sitting on the sidelines for the DC cables...

V4 chargers can't come soon enough.

 

[GreyGV60]

I wouldn't hold my breath on the DC extension cables. They are fundamentally a bad idea and I think A2Z is going to take their time testing these since the potential for very bad things to happen is fairly high. The Tesla SC are liquid cooled. Any extension cable, by default, can't be and your sped woud likely get down regulated by the station if it detects too much heat build-up. I'm personally not interested in paying EM $$$ to charge at Chevy Bolt speeds because I'm using an extension cable.

But, maybe I'm completely wrong. I hope I am, but I'm sitting on the sidelines for the DC cables...

V4 chargers can't come soon enough.

I know what you mean about the extension cables, but I still have hopes for it. The YouTuber State of Charge tested the A2Z prototype DC extension cables at a supercharger and it work. However the prototype was very heavy. A2Z still has it listed on their websites under Upcoming Products. The best scenario of course would be to have access to the V4 chargers. Right now charging at a V3 charger my peak charging speed is only 97kw

 

[ideutsch]

I know what you mean about the extension cables, but I still have hopes for it. The YouTuber State of Charge tested the A2Z prototype DC extension cables at a supercharger and it work. However the prototype was very heavy. A2Z still has it listed on their websites under Upcoming Products. The best scenario of course would be to have access to the V4 chargers. Right now charging at a V3 charger my peak charging speed is only 97kw

Peak charging power is the same 97kW on V4 superchargers, at least that’s what I’ve experienced so far. I think Tesla has upgraded some charging stalls to V4 and not the power cabinets.

 

[Jamas]

Still no email :-( Anyone know the timeframe window that Genesis said they would be sending emails out? Wondering if I should call them up.

 

[noremacnova]

Still no email :-( Anyone know the timeframe window that Genesis said they would be sending emails out? Wondering if I should call them up.

I think the new completion date is the end of May. I'm in the same situation as you, just being patient.

 

[skiingj]

Still waiting for the email. '23

 

[gvjim]

Peak charging power is the same 97kW on V4 superchargers, at least that’s what I’ve experienced so far. I think Tesla has upgraded some charging stalls to V4 and not the power cabinets.

This is exactly correct. There are no Tesla v4 power cabinets anywhere in the world, at least not public ones. Tesla has officially announced them, and says they will start installing them later this year. I suspect they will be quite rare until well into 2026 or maybe even 2027.

In the meantime, right now there are some stations with v3 power cabinets (400v) and the newer v4 dispensers with the longer cables. I've seen this called v3.5 stations, but I don't think that is official Tesla terminology.

When the new v4 power cabinets start coming out later this year, they will be 800v, so our EGMP vehicles will be able to charge at full speed (I got 237kw peak at an EA station over the weekend). And they will have long cables, so you won't need to take up two stalls. At that point, the only downside of charging at one of these stations will be that you are paying Elon Musk.

Right now, no extension cable is needed if you charge at a "v3.5" station - they have long cables so all you need is an adapter. But you are still limited to 97kw, because that is all the power the car will take at 400v (the car then internally converts the voltage to 800v - it's this converter that is limited to 97kw).

The only situation where an extension cable might be required is for charging at the old style v3 stations. These have very short cables, so the GV60 has to be parked in a position that blocks two stalls. This also means that you CANNOT charge unless two consecutive stalls are available. Some of these stations are quite busy, so you might wait longer for two stalls to open up than you would to go to an EA station.

I know what you mean about the extension cables, but I still have hopes for it.

For our cars specifically, I also have hopes for this. 97kw at 400v is only 242 amps. There are plenty of air cooled cables that can handle that amount of current. A2Z says that the cable will be rated for 350 amps, so our usage would be well below the limit. Since the vast majority of Tesla stations are going to have these short cables for years into the future, I think this extension cable might be a good investment for owners that plan to do a lot of road trips.

On the other hand, for a 400v car this extension cable might be a bit more iffy, since it wouldn't be limited to 97kw.

 

[huskerj100]

Got the email and tracking shows May 15 delivery date.
Southern California, 2023, advanced.

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[steveinarizona]

Got the email and tracking shows May 15 delivery date.
Southern California, 2023, advanced.

To make sure I don't miss the email, would you tell us whom it is from? That way I can do a periodic alpha search.

Thanks.

 

[SaratogaLefty]

Arrived today, two days before originally indicated. It's heavy!!

 

[SaratogaLefty]

Came with a nice case.

 

[gknyce]

To make sure I don't miss the email, would you tell us whom it is from? That way I can do a periodic alpha search.

Thanks.

Someone reported... noreply-myvehicle@mc.genesismotorsamerica.com

 

[MBGV60]

Look what came in the mail today!

 

[skiingj]

Does anyone know if they started out with the earliest '23 VINs and are moving forward?

 

[GreyGV60]

Does anyone know if they started out with the earliest '23 VINs and are moving forward?

I bought mine in July 2022 and have not received my email.

 

[EVsquatch]

Look what came in the mail today!

Very nice! Let us know how it works when you use it at a SC station. Thanks for posting!

 

[EVsquatch]

Still waiting for the email. '23

Still waiting. Supposedly May 31 is the last date they will be sending emails by. Suspect they may extend that. Sure sounds like a lot of us haven't gotten emails. I have a 23 Performance.

 

[Wilgur]

Nothing yet for me in So Cal.

My adapter arrived yesterday (NJ) after a hold up at USPS of a few days. Now to find a Tesla charger and try it out.