Genesis G70 Reviews

[Edmguy]

Nobody is complaining about anything - it's a new car so it's worthwhile to discuss its benefits and drawbacks. You need to relax and take your negative energy elsewhere.

I agree with you totally. No one has been complaining. But it is worth discussing the pros and cons of a car.

Even the 12 year old technology Lexus IS250 (200 hp) will whoop the G70 2.0t as it puts down 7 sec 0-60 flat.
Lexus IS350 (second gen '06~'13) for example gets 4.7 sec 0-60 using a g meter when tested on a nice cool/cold weather. Manufacturer on the brochure claims 5.6 sec which is for marketing really to make room for IS-F 0-60 number when in fact both IS-F and IS350 have pretty close 0-60 accelerations. Also interesting to note that AoA estimates the G70 to have 114~ 115 mph trap speed at quarter mile. The guy said it's a very quick car and he means that he ain't playing around.

So much I don't agree with in your post but I have to comment on the Lexus IS 0-60 times. The old (pre turbo) IS250 C&D tested to 7.8 0-60 and they typically have fast times. I didn't notice a time from them for the newer turbo, but Motortrend shows 7.0 seconds 0-60 for that one which I am willing to bet money the 2.0T G70 will be faster than. Just because one guy on a video says 7.4 doesn't make it so. Instrumented tests will be way more accurate once they are out.

And on the IS350... C&D has that one tested to 6.0 seconds 0-60 for the RWD and I can tell you from test driving it that it isn't even close to the 3.3T G70. There is no way anyone gets 4.7 seconds or even close to it. And my test drive was in mid April in Edmonton which is cool/cold weather.

 

[cheez]

First thing I do when I get a gorgeous new car is remove all that pesky carpeting. Gotta shave those seconds off!

Yeah and remove that owner's manual too. I would try to avoid heavily optioned model as they add a lot of weight. That panoramic sunroof weighs a lot and throws off balance in handling.


The G70 3.3t RWD model was tested in Inje Speedium racetrack and got the lap record of 1:53.89 last year. The BMW M4 in comparison got the record of 1:54.16. Here is the video by Top Review in Korea.

That shows us the G70 is a serious performer both in the streets and at the race track.

 

[cheez]

So much I don't agree with in your post but I have to comment on the Lexus IS 0-60 times. The old (pre turbo) IS250 C&D tested to 7.8 0-60 and they typically have fast times. I didn't notice a time from them for the newer turbo, but Motortrend shows 7.0 seconds 0-60 for that one which I am willing to bet money the 2.0T G70 will be faster than. Just because one guy on a video says 7.4 doesn't make it so. Instrumented tests will be way more accurate once they are out.

And on the IS350... C&D has that one tested to 6.0 seconds 0-60 for the RWD and I can tell you from test driving it that it isn't even close to the 3.3T G70. There is no way anyone gets 4.7 seconds or even close to it. And my test drive was in mid April in Edmonton which is cool/cold weather.

The old normally aspirated IS250 puts down 7 sec or slightly higher this is typical where many people have achieved. The G70 2.0t is slow it's an over 7 sec car which is even slower than the old gen Acura TL with 5 speed auto. You can't do spirited driving with a 7+ second car no matter how you slice it.

The IS350 has conservative numbers by magazines when the car was first launched. The reviewers were not so good in getting the best performance out of the car. The 2006 model requires pedal-dance to deactivate the VSC and Trac. Without disabling that you won't get good result in the 0-60. Road & Track later got 4.9 sec 0-60 and 13.5 sec quarter in the hot summer day... Car & Driver also got 4.9 sec 0-60. For the independent drivers like ourselves have the potential to bring car's 0-60 number even better as we can take advantage of cold weather, favored barometric pressure, less humidity, & altitudes as well as a few weight saving tricks and launching practices. Getting 4.7 to 4.8 sec out of these cars were typical with these ideal conditions and preparations. And that's with bone stock no intake mods just a good'ol stock oem air filter.

Trust me. The 2.0t G70 is slow. Don't go hurry up and buy one and later regretting because the car is so slow....

 

[Edmguy]

So you drove the G70 2.0T? Or are all your comments based on youtube vids? And I bought the 3.3T so I have no regrets, but I don't think you can completely discount the 2.0T until there are actual instrumented tests or you have driven it.

And I still believe the IS350 is at least a full second slower than the G70 3.3T in 0-60. You are quoting results on a 10+ year old car that you can't buy anymore. All the tests of the latest IS350 seem to show 5.6 to 6.0 in 0-60. That is slower than 2 liter turbos from Germany. Now that is embarrassing.

 

[Beefer]

So you drove the G70 2.0T? Or are all your comments based on youtube vids? And I bought the 3.3T so I have no regrets, but I don't think you can completely discount the 2.0T until there are actual instrumented tests or you have driven it.

And I still believe the IS350 is at least a full second slower than the G70 3.3T in 0-60. You are quoting results on a 10+ year old car that you can't buy anymore. All the tests of the latest IS350 seem to show 5.6 to 6.0 in 0-60. That is slower than 2 liter turbos from Germany. Now that is embarrassing.

Just ignore the guy...his parents were cousins...something is not right.

 

[Tonester]

Next month and mid-50’s...I called it folks ...

Genesis builds a Lexus with its new G70 - Naples Illustrated

Also...for real???

Quote from this review that you quoted... "Genesis is surprisingly generous in its rear-seat accomodation. Huge trunk too."

Doesn't that give you pause to the credibility of this review when literally EVERY other reviewer comments on the less than generous rear seat room and the smallish trunk? And pricing in the mid 50's?? I just can't see it priced over 52K fully loaded... (as others have said).

 

[Beefer]

Quote from this review that you quoted... "Genesis is surprisingly generous in its rear-seat accomodation. Huge trunk too."

Doesn't that give you pause to the credibility of this review when literally EVERY other reviewer comments on the less than generous rear seat room and the smallish trunk? And pricing in the mid 50's?? I just can't see it priced over 52K fully loaded... (as others have said).

It was kind of a joke...I guess it got too mixed up. The article is pretty off. It quotes mid-50's which I predicted way back...so I endorsed the article...jokingly. Oh well.

 

[Gen127]

Doesn't that give you pause to the credibility of this review when literally EVERY other reviewer comments on the less than generous rear seat room and the smallish trunk? And pricing in the mid 50's?? I just can't see it priced over 52K fully loaded... (as others have said).

considering the linked review is from a magazine catering to ‘upscale’ fashion and living, I take the opinions offered with regards to the automotive world rather lightly.

 

[Tonester]

It was kind of a joke...I guess it got too mixed up. The article is pretty off. It quotes mid-50's which I predicted way back...so I endorsed the article...jokingly. Oh well.

Ahh!! I get it now!!! I just had to squash your apparent bragging rights!
Can't wait til we get some real info to discuss rather than all this idle banter (it's just so hard to be quiet!)

 

[R.K.]

So you drove the G70 2.0T? Or are all your comments based on youtube vids? And I bought the 3.3T so I have no regrets, but I don't think you can completely discount the 2.0T until there are actual instrumented tests or you have driven it.

And I still believe the IS350 is at least a full second slower than the G70 3.3T in 0-60. You are quoting results on a 10+ year old car that you can't buy anymore. All the tests of the latest IS350 seem to show 5.6 to 6.0 in 0-60. That is slower than 2 liter turbos from Germany. Now that is embarrassing.

I bought a 2.0T. And the 7 second 0-60 time is about right from what I can tell. It's not a fast car off the line.

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[Ed Okin]

First thing I do when I get a gorgeous new car is remove all that pesky carpeting. Gotta shave those seconds off!

Yes! And ditch the clothes, too!

 

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[mcornett]

Genesis dethrones Porsche as top brand in J.D. Power's APEAL study - Roadshow

New article about Genesis' ranking by JD Power and some sweet pics of the G70 3.3T Sport in Mallorca Blue.

 

[YEH]

The old normally aspirated IS250 puts down 7 sec or slightly higher this is typical where many people have achieved. The G70 2.0t is slow it's an over 7 sec car which is even slower than the old gen Acura TL with 5 speed auto. You can't do spirited driving with a 7+ second car no matter how you slice it.

Trust me. The 2.0t G70 is slow. Don't go hurry up and buy one and later regretting because the car is so slow....

C/D got a 6.1s 0-60 time w/ the Stinger 2.0T.

You really think the G70 2.0T will not only be slower, but considerably slower than the Stinger? (When in fact, it should be quicker.)

2018 Kia Stinger 2.0T AWD Test | Review | Car and Driver

MT got a 6.6s time.

 

[GenesisYEG]

You definitely notice a difference when you use launch control on the 2.0T compared to if you just floored it off the line.

 

[KusaKusa]

Here's a video of someone using launch control for 0-100 km on the 2.0T:

I don't mind acceleration from 0 too much, but I hope these 7 second 0-60 times aren't indicative of acceleration as a whole.

 

[kmooney4]

We should at least start seeing some of the longer term reviews coming out soon... I know SaabKyle got his G70 to review more than a week ago so his video along with others (assuming they get them at the same time) should be coming out soon

 

[dougjp]

Slightly off topic but I wish 0-60 was not the common benchmark everybody (including myself) uses to compare car performance. It would be better for real life comparison to have, say, 50-80, or for beginning acceleration, 5-60 or 70. At least for automatics. Seldom would anybody peg the accelerator to the rev limiter in neutral and then go into drive with their own cars, or use tricks like varying tire pressures to get better times. Then there's the different drive systems - AWD, FWD RWD, so an AWD car will usually give flattering 0-60 times.

 

[Buckdes]

Slightly off topic but I wish 0-60 was not the common benchmark everybody (including myself) uses to compare car performance. It would be better for real life comparison to have, say, 50-80, or for beginning acceleration, 5-60 or 70. At least for automatics. Seldom would anybody peg the accelerator to the rev limiter in neutral and then go into drive with their own cars, or use tricks like varying tire pressures to get better times. Then there's the different drive systems - AWD, FWD RWD, so an AWD car will usually give flattering 0-60 times.

0 to 60 times will for sure give you an idea of performance as you can tell the difference of a few decimal points worth of power, but you are correct in that ALOT of car companies are padding 0 to 60 times with ridiculos launch controls which are gaining 0.5s or more, take the TTRS for example, 0 to 60 in about 3.5s with launch control and without it it is over 4s, i have never and will never use launch control at a red light, although it is much easier in the G70

 

[kmooney4]

Slightly off topic but I wish 0-60 was not the common benchmark everybody (including myself) uses to compare car performance. It would be better for real life comparison to have, say, 50-80, or for beginning acceleration, 5-60 or 70. At least for automatics. Seldom would anybody peg the accelerator to the rev limiter in neutral and then go into drive with their own cars, or use tricks like varying tire pressures to get better times. Then there's the different drive systems - AWD, FWD RWD, so an AWD car will usually give flattering 0-60 times.

0 to 60 times will for sure give you an idea of performance as you can tell the difference of a few decimal points worth of power, but you are correct in that ALOT of car companies are padding 0 to 60 times with ridiculos launch controls which are gaining 0.5s or more, take the TTRS for example, 0 to 60 in about 3.5s with launch control and without it it is over 4s, i have never and will never use launch control at a red light, although it is much easier in the G70

Good points... I also would like a 50-70 and or maybe like a 30-50 to become more mainstream... it is perfectly OK for car manufacturers to brag about their 0-60 times, but in terms of practicality: you are correct in that more everyday driving conditions acceleration metrics would be MUCH better to judge how a car will affect your daily life

These are essentially your "passing power" metrics which are most important for highway driving and what most people look for in a good performance daily driver