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Genesis G70 Reviews

There's a good in-depth review on YT by Chasing Cars.

Goes into detail on the differences in how the 2.0 and 3.3 handle in turns and how the 2 engines interact with the transmission (keep in mind that Australia gets their own distinct tuning).
 
YEH said:
There's a good in-depth review on YT by Chasing Cars.

Goes into detail on the differences in how the 2.0 and 3.3 handle in turns and how the 2 engines interact with the transmission (keep in mind that Australia gets their own distinct tuning).
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What's he talking about with the 2.0T being 200kg heavier than a BMW 330i? They're like within 100lbs of each other last I checked.

And I think the transmission "misalignment" with the 2.0T is too much of a downside to make it better than the 3.3T in corners. If you use the paddle shifters to have the right gear and also not shift at bad times during the corner, then the 2.0T probably would feel better. But it sucks to have to change to the paddle shifters and rapidly press downshifts for EVERY turn.
 
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They mention changes that I dont think Ive seen before:

  • LED headlights become standard throughout the range
  • Basic 3.3T version gains the equipment from the previously optional Elite package
So.....maybe they have the scoop? This is strange though....
 
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Yeah I was initially avoiding the review, but upon reading it, it was surprisingly fair, agreeable, and in line with many other reviews. Some things I noted:

  • Interesting that the thrust of the 3.3T was comparable to the M340i when the latter has a better and insane 0-60 time. It must be because of how aggressive BMW launch controls are with RPM and building boost, while the Koreans seem to trend towards holding back initial power for longevity and warranty.
  • They said the price difference is $10,000 between base models, but if you realistically option them, the BMW will have a much higher price delta. The G70 only has around $6000 between base and the top trim, while I've had the 3 Series easily get over $10,000 in options when I've messed with it.
  • Everyone knocks on the interior material quality of the G70 vs the German competition, but I don't think it's true if you assess them side-by-side piece-by-piece.
    • The G70 buttons are plastic, but pretty much all the competition have plastic buttons at this price point. I believe the 4 center buttons in the 3 Series are metal, so that's in their favor, but also the plate of buttons next to the shift lever has been widely panned as creaky and flimsy. The G70 steering wheel buttons are better than the normal rubberized plastic too.
    • The standard for center consoles at this price point is plastics, including the 3 Series, but the G70 has vinyl wrapping part of the sides connecting the AC controls to the center console, particularly on the driver's side where it's stitched.
    • The G70 dashboard is smooth vinyl wrapped on the lower part and soft plastic on the upper. The 3 Series is all soft plastic unless you option the SensaTec (vinyl) wrapped dash. But SensaTec has a terrible texture that looks exactly like soft plastic.
    • The 3 Series leather option, BMW Vernasca leather, is not great. It's controversial even on BMW forums (though agreeably better than the Dakota leather lol). I've sat in a ton of cars back-to-back in auto shows and focused a lot on the leather quality, and Vernasca leather is comparable to the G70 regular leather option and other standard manufacturer normal leathers. The G70 nappa leather is much better than the class standard in that it's soft, not rubbery at all, and has a very slight sueded feel to it. The next step in leather quality for BMW, the Merino leather, is only available for the 3 Series as part of the Individual program. But to their credit, I experienced the Merino leather in the X7, and it blows G70 nappa leather out of the water and is amazing.
    • Both car doors are upper soft plastic, mid-section vinyl with vinyl armrests, and hard plastic lower. However, the diamond stitching in the nappa leather trim blows the 3 Series door design out of the water. Even if it's an option, the price difference in both base and options makes this a more than affordable option. BMW didn't even try to make the doors look nice at all.

Just to continue my interior quality rant, I don't understand how on an individual basis reviewers grumble about Audi's piano black everywhere, BMW's plain designs and cheap interior for the price of the M340i, and the C Class's creaking AC controls... and then still hold a mythological standard of German interior quality. Mercedes specifically I can at least understand for the E/S Classes.
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Aquineas said:
M340i vs G70 from a Bimmer perspective
Pretty fair and objective review. Had some good things to say about the G70 and also pointed out some weaknesses.
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Thanks for the link, I hadn't seen that. Interesting review and good to hear the comments, although I disagree with his comments about the color. I actually think the G70 looks great in silver, and I don't have any complaints about the transmission. I can't comment on the adaptive suspension since I don't have it, but I'm pleased with the calibration in my Design Edition (except for on this one back road I take with a kind of speed bump that upsets the rear suspension. I'd like to try the BMW on that.)
Having driven a couple of E90 chassis 3 series for quite a few years, and then an F30 (not so good), I would be curious to drive a new M340i to compare to my G70. I'm afraid I'd like the seats a lot more 😉.
 
Yeah, I agree with much of the review. I think he's pretty objective in most areas but tends to exaggerate a bit when saying things like the the 340i has a FAR superior engine, transmission, ride and technology. Superior, yeah the B58 is better and the ZF as well but not massively. Most reviewers have said the G70 interior is absolutely on par or better than it's German rivals.. so maybe somewhat subjective. In terms of thrust, he's right. Other than launch they are actually very close in performance. Again, this is transmission programming. In Canada the price difference is much higher. North of 15K.

M340
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.9 sec
G70
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.2 sec

Overall 8/10 review.
 
Slip_Angle said:
Yeah, I agree with much of the review. I think he's pretty objective in most areas but tends to exaggerate a bit when saying things like the the 340i has a FAR superior engine, transmission, ride and technology. Superior, yeah the B58 is better and the ZF as well but not massively. Most reviewers have said the G70 interior is absolutely on par or better than it's German rivals.. so maybe somewhat subjective. In terms of thrust, he's right. Other than launch they are actually very close in performance. Again, this is transmission programming. In Canada the price difference is much higher. North of 15K.

M340
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 4.7 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.4 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 2.9 sec
G70
Rolling start, 5–60 mph: 5.0 sec
Top gear, 30–50 mph: 2.5 sec
Top gear, 50–70 mph: 3.2 sec

Overall 8/10 review.
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I'm confused about the rolling start numbers. Both cars are faster from a dead stop to 60 than from 5mph?
 
OMG70 said:
I'm confused about the rolling start numbers. Both cars are faster from a dead stop to 60 than from 5mph?
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launch control. thats why 5-60 numbers are so important, since most of us arent launching it from every light
 
^ yup. ever since launch control/DSG-type gearboxes became commonplace, i actually read far more into the 5-60 numbers than the 0-60. it is a better indicator of real-world performance and engine flexibility, rather than relying on computer trickery or launches that are excessively abusive, which most actual owners would never attempt - except maybe with leases (reason #11 why i'd never buy an ex-lease performance vehicle).

the Honda S2000 is a great example. fantastic car, no question. but to achieve the published 0-60 times required an insane launch - something like a 7500rpm+ clutch dump with a bit of slip. C&D recorded 0-60 in 6.3s by reving it up just shy of it's zany redline. but the 5-60 was 7.6s - a full 1.3s behind the 0-60 time. a huge delta between the two times. that indicates a peaky engine with a lack of torque, which will impact its flexibility for around town daily driving. so unless it is being rung out on a track or twisty highway, it'd feel sluggish for everyday life.
 
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OMG70 said:
I'm confused about the rolling start numbers. Both cars are faster from a dead stop to 60 than from 5mph?
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Keep in mind that 0-60 times from magazines include a "rollout", so if you factor in the "real" 0-60 time (add .2 or so..) A 5-60 and 0-60 that are closer together means the car isn't relying as much on trick launches to get it's times.

Car and Driver Specs
G70 0-60 is 4.4, so 4.6 with no rollout
G70 5-60 is 5.0
Difference is .4 of a second

340I 0-60 is 3.8, so 4.0 with no rollout
340i 5-60 is 4.7
Difference = .7 of a second

So as you can see, the G70 5-60 is more true to it's actual performance. The M340 gets a good chunk of it's advantage from the launch. On the roll, it's closer until the speeds get high as the M340 has a lot more HP than advertised (400 plus)..
 

The maker of the review started a vote G70 vs Stinger. Like for Stinger, comment for G70. Which never results in a fair vote.... So head over and comment!!
 
Slip_Angle said:

The maker of the review started a vote G70 vs Stinger. Like for Stinger, comment for G70. Which never results in a fair vote.... So head over and comment!!
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I think he's trying to do a fair review. That price differential down there is pretty severe though.
 
@Slip_Angle @joschneider @canucklehead604 Thanks for the education!

Redwing said:
I think he's trying to do a fair review. That price differential down there is pretty severe though.
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He's talking $30k AUD ($21k and some change USD). I still don't know if that really makes sense though unless he's doing some apples to oranges comparisons
 
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