Genesis G70 Reviews

[EdP]

Clearly, we simply disagree.

A 5-second car that doesn't handle well would also warrant disqualification, in my view. I want a car that can really enhance the driving experience and acceleration, for me, is a critical aspect of that. Handling and control are, also. I'm far less sensitive to mileage or trunk space or minor cosmetic features -- things others might find important. I care more about the driving experience and less about a car turning heads when I pull into a parking lot. I don't demean those who focus on the latter. I can understand why that would be a source of enjoyment and I enjoy it, too. But it's farther down my list than crisp performance.

I don't think we disagree all that much. As you point out, if a car does not feel good, acceleration alone it not a good reason to buy.

My original question though, is there a point that will disqualify a car based only on acceleration? If the car of your dreams had every feature you want in handling, pricing, style, whatever and has a 0-60 time of 5.5 you'd buy it. Now, take that same exact car but change it to 6.5 seconds, is it still a buy? How about 7 or 8 seconds? At what point does it drop from your list, based only on acceleration?

 

[Gen127]

I agree that it wasn't the most informative review.

This is quite true, however I do agree with a few of his observations (such as the rear cramped foot space), including the reviewer's closing statement: "Whether Genesis succeeds as a luxury brand is purely down to how they portray themselves, and selling alongside Accents under huge “Hyundai” signage is probably not the best way to poach potential buyers, but standalone showrooms are surely next on their plans."

 

[devellis]

I don't think we disagree all that much. As you point out, if a car does not feel good, acceleration alone it not a good reason to buy.

My original question though, is there a point that will disqualify a car based only on acceleration? If the car of your dreams had every feature you want in handling, pricing, style, whatever and has a 0-60 time of 5.5 you'd buy it. Now, take that same exact car but change it to 6.5 seconds, is it still a buy? How about 7 or 8 seconds? At what point does it drop from your list, based only on acceleration?

It's a matter of degree, I guess. If a car had a 0-60 time of over 10 seconds, I wouldn't even consider it. If it had a 0-60 time of under 4.5 seconds, it would definitely be under consideration. So the question is, where is the cutoff? And, to your point, that would in part be determined by other factors, like how well it handled. A clumsy car that came in at less than 4.5 seconds, while initially considered, would eventually be rejected. I can say with cert6ainty at what point my elimination based on 0-60 would be absolute. I think I just conceded that you're correct, didn't I?

 

[EdP]

It's a matter of degree, I guess. If a car had a 0-60 time of over 10 seconds, I wouldn't even consider it.

I think I just conceded that you're correct, didn't I?

No right or wrong, but I can understand your position. These days, 10 seconds is pretty slow for anything but an Econobox. At 4.5, it may be a fun car, but not something I'd want as a daily driver.

I just get a kick out of the overall discussions where tenths of a second seem so important to a few here.

 

[KDX]

No right or wrong, but I can understand your position. These days, 10 seconds is pretty slow for anything but an Econobox. At 4.5, it may be a fun car, but not something I'd want as a daily driver.

I just get a kick out of the overall discussions where tenths of a second seem so important to a few here.

At anything below 4.5 to 60 for any car, that type of performance probably puts it out of the 'comfortable' price range for many members on this board. Personally, I'm looking for performance and value which I think Genesis has done here (admirably) with the G70.

 

[joneillnj]

No right or wrong, but I can understand your position. These days, 10 seconds is pretty slow for anything but an Econobox. At 4.5, it may be a fun car, but not something I'd want as a daily driver.

Why? Just because a car is capable of 4.5 second (or better) does not mean you have to constantly drive it flat out. However, when you want to have fun, you can - not possible if the car does not have that capability.

With the advent of electronic drive mode selection that can adjust throttle response, transmission behaviour, steering feel/directness, exhaust note and suspension/ride quality, there are plenty of VERY quick cars out there that are also excellent/refined daily drivers - you don't have to compromise on the fun part.

 

[GenesisYEG]

The differences in drive modes are very apparent. The 3.3T Sport in Comfort mode is nicely balanced. Acceleration is smooth and the suspension is decently comfortable for a daily driver. If you want even more throttle resistance just put it in Eco and you can putt along at as slow of a speed as you want. In Sport mode, however, the car wants to go go go (and that's how I personally like it).

Something for everyone.

 

[EdP]

Why? Just because a car is capable of 4.5 second (or better) does not mean you have to constantly drive it flat out. However, when you want to have fun, you can - not possible if the car does not have that capability.
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Theoretically, you are correct. Just that most cars that can do 4.5 are a bit smaller, lighter, and stiffer than a G80 or G90 class car. Fun to drive, but if I can't fit what I need for vacation or my wife's wheelchar for a trip to the store, not for my regular ride.

 

[KDX]

The differences in drive modes are very apparent. The 3.3T Sport in Comfort mode is nicely balanced. Acceleration is smooth and the suspension is decently comfortable for a daily driver. If you want even more throttle resistance just put it in Eco and you can putt along at as slow of a speed as you want. In Sport mode, however, the car wants to go go go (and that's how I personally like it).

Something for everyone.

This is what a big decision for me to choose the Sport over the 2.0 as I wanted to be able to drive in Comfort mode and I thought it had a little better ride than the 2.0 in this mode. Maybe I was just fooling myself though.

 

[GenesisYEG]

This is what a big decision for me to choose the Sport over the 2.0 as I wanted to be able to drive in Comfort mode and I thought it had a little better ride than the 2.0 in this mode. Maybe I was just fooling myself though.

I find the cars without adaptive suspension are somewhere in between Comfort and Sport on the 3.3T Sport.

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[joneillnj]

Theoretically, you are correct. Just that most cars that can do 4.5 are a bit smaller, lighter, and stiffer than a G80 or G90 class car. Fun to drive, but if I can't fit what I need for vacation or my wife's wheelchar for a trip to the store, not for my regular ride.

Fair enough if you have special needs like that or don't have multiple vehicles in the house to cover your needs. We already have 1 SUV in the house (and just donated the old minivan) and use the SUV when we need to haul stuff (and more than 4 people). Given that we already have that covered, I refuse to drive a vehicle that sucks all the fun out of driving as my daily driver.

 

[devellis]

Fair enough if you have special needs like that or don't have multiple vehicles in the house to cover your needs. We already have 1 SUV in the house (and just donated the old minivan) and use the SUV when we need to haul stuff (and more than 4 people). Given that we already have that covered, I refuse to drive a vehicle that sucks all the fun out of driving as my daily driver.

Yeah, I think your situation is similar to mine. We'll likely keep the Infiniti QX50 I now drive if we get a new car and trade my wife's current Subaru Outback. The infiniti has plenty of room for trips and we've driven it over long distances with at least three people and all their luggage for a two-week stay.

Whatever else we end up getting (if anything) would be the car I drive daily and most of my driving is on good roads without a ton of traffic. Sure, at times I find myself in thick traffic, which is why an automatic isn't a compromise that troubles me. But I do plenty of driving on twisty roads where I can enjoy a car that provides an engaging driving experience. And a lot of those roads are two lanes, with intermittent passing zones. If you get behind a tractor hauling hay or a pack of cyclists, having the power to pass them safely within the distance of the passing zone is a real plus.

 

[g70manual]

Another Canadian review:
Genesis gets it with the G70

 

[devellis]

These "driving impressions" reviews are certainly interesting and worth reading but I'll be glad when we finally see some formal road testing by mainstream automotive journalists. I suspect that won't happen until we have the US release, when ever that will be.

 

[joneillnj]

These "driving impressions" reviews are certainly interesting and worth reading but I'll be glad when we finally see some formal road testing by mainstream automotive journalists. I suspect that won't happen until we have the US release, when ever that will be.

Yeah - do the Canadians not do actual instrumented tests?

 

[KDX]

Yeah - do the Canadians not do actual instrumented tests?

The three main Canadian reviewers I follow (via YouTube) are Straight Pipes, Motormouth and Everyday Reviews. From what I remember they go by the performance figures supplied by the automotive companies.

 

[devellis]

Some reviews that show up on YouTube (for a variety of cars, not just Genesis) are based on cars borrowed from dealerships by people who have established themselves as a YouTube presence. The reviewer benefits by getting access to cars and thus establishing a YouTube channel with regular reviews. The dealership benefits from having the car gain visibility and, almost always, their is favorable mention of the dealer . That type of arrangement pretty much precludes the car getting a thorough testing because it's a car that someone else will be owning at some point after the test.

Major automotive outlets either are lent cars from manufacturers for the express purpose of putting them thoroughly through their paces or actually buy cars for long-term testing. Those cars aren't going back onto the showroom floor after the road test. So they can be flogged as much as needed to determine what they're capable of doing. Even though most of us don't intend to flog our cars, the standardization involved in those formal road tests, especially when results from multiple sources are taken into consideration, really give the most credible data on the car's performance capabilities. Part of those reviews is often a set of comparisons to other cars tested in the past under similar conditions, or even cotemporaneously under identical conditions. Those comparisons are especially informative.

In many cases, major outlets will put out a "first impressions" or "first drive" piece based on either an event like the one held recently at Mont Tremblant or some other company-managed opportunity to drive a car under essentially manufacturer-determined conditions. Those reports can certainly be informative but they're still not the equivalent of the formal road tests that major automotive publications eventually do. It's after we have a few of the latter that I think we'll fully know the G70's performance characteristics. But we already certainly know that it's a brisk performer. Still, I'd like to see some credible comparative data. But in the meantime, I'll enjoy reading whatever is available and thank folks for posting reviews here.

 

[Slides]

I wish one of the owners here would put a more objective review online in video format. I get that there is no incentive to do so, but it would be nice.

 

[KDX]

Not really a review but....

 

[Buckdes]

Not really a review but....

Great vid!!
Not sure why but when i tested my G70 before purchase the launch control felt slower than just gunning it, maybe the demo had regular gas ?? I have not tried LC in mine yet but will definitly do it in the morning