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Genesis G70 Reviews

This blue on the full car would be so sweet.... :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
 

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Which, from what I've heard, is part of the reason it gets awful gas mileage?

It’s not actually that bad ... I’m sitting at 9.3 L/100Km, with 1000 kms so far, which is not far off my previous 4cyl car ...
 
It’s not actually that bad ... I’m sitting at 9.3 L/100Km, with 1000 kms so far, which is not far off my previous 4cyl car ...
I am at 1800km i do almost all city driving, i get between 13 and 16L/100km
 
I am at 1800km i do almost all city driving, i get between 13 and 16L/100km
Ya, but do you drive aggressively or like an older gentleman on a Sunday drive?
 
Ya, but do you drive aggressively or like an older gentleman on a Sunday drive?
About 50/50 aggresive vs sunday drive, i spent the last two days driving in eco and drove about 100km of city driving and i intentionally took my time accelerating and got 13.5L/100km
 
Lately I've been driving using paddles and gears 1-4 and it is extremely satisfying; it is one of the few cars where I actually enjoy using the paddles. It is also extremely consumptive. :geek:

I think what I am really getting at is that I want a 6 speed manual 3.3T Sport!
 
Lately I've been driving using paddles and gears 1-4 and it is extremely satisfying; it is one of the few cars where I actually enjoy using the paddles. It is also extremely consumptive. :geek:

I think what I am really getting at is that I want a 6 speed manual 3.3T Sport!

This is actually my first automatic in a decade, and that was a serious debate for me. Couple things tipped the balance for me: moving to Toronto with the traffic (stop and go with a manual isn't a lot of fun) plus a few months ago my girlfriend rented me an Aston Martin for a weekend and I got a chance to really play in a car with paddle shifters. If you truly treat it like a manual with the shifts it can be a lot of fun - when you want it to be.

Plus with manual you lose some of the 'toys' which I really wanted in my car.
 
Good to hear about the paddle shifters. On other cars I've never found them as useful or enjoyable as I'd anticipated. If I end up with the G70, I'll definitely try them out. My Infiniti automatic has the shift lever means of changing gears and I do find myself occasionally reaching for it instinctively to drop down a gear or two for a corner. But it actually is counterintuitive after a standard shift because, for example, going from third to fourth is a pull back on a standard but a push forward on this system. I've hit the rev limiter a time or two when I asked for a downshift when I actually wanted an upshift. The paddles are so completely different from what a standard transmission requires that there wouldn't be that sort of negative transfer. Using my fingers to change gears is a whole different experience. I might have to learn to reposition my hands. I usually keep them at positions closer to 11 and 2 than 9 and 3, because having the left hand higher on the wheel than 9 seemed to give better steering control when the right hand came off the wheel for shifting. But that may put the paddles out of reach.

As I said, the couple of cars I've had with paddles (including my wife's current Subaru) never saw them in use past the first day or two of ownership. But in the G70, I suppose that could change.
 
Automobile Magazine has posted a brief new review (August 1). They're saying price starting around $33K.
I'd keep expecting the 35k. They have no source for the 33k while the 35k comes straight from Genesis, and the website even contradicts itself by putting the 35k estimate at the bottom. I'd rather lower my expectations at this stage.
 
Good to hear about the paddle shifters. On other cars I've never found them as useful or enjoyable as I'd anticipated. If I end up with the G70, I'll definitely try them out. My Infiniti automatic has the shift lever means of changing gears and I do find myself occasionally reaching for it instinctively to drop down a gear or two for a corner. But it actually is counterintuitive after a standard shift because, for example, going from third to fourth is a pull back on a standard but a push forward on this system. I've hit the rev limiter a time or two when I asked for a downshift when I actually wanted an upshift. The paddles are so completely different from what a standard transmission requires that there wouldn't be that sort of negative transfer. Using my fingers to change gears is a whole different experience. I might have to learn to reposition my hands. I usually keep them at positions closer to 11 and 2 than 9 and 3, because having the left hand higher on the wheel than 9 seemed to give better steering control when the right hand came off the wheel for shifting. But that may put the paddles out of reach.

As I said, the couple of cars I've had with paddles (including my wife's current Subaru) never saw them in use past the first day or two of ownership. But in the G70, I suppose that could change.
One thing I wish the G70 had is a way to manually shift with the shifter in the proper direction (forward to downshift, backward to upshift) but the paddles are still good on this car (hands on 9 and 3!). Most cars with manual mode on the shifter are forward to upshift and backward to downshift which drives me nuts (even non-GT 911s do this!).
 
Korea was going to allow more US cars into their country. From what I read, they would be ok importing here, but that changes frequently it seems. No idea what the EU terms are today.

SKorea has an FTA w/ the US (granted, doesn't seem to mean much these days).

There hasn't been any limit on US auto imports into Korea in years (why would there be when the Germans are making a killing in that market?).

Under the amended FTA, SKorea doubled the # of US imports which don't have to be meet Korean safety or emissions regulations (which is what I think you were alluding to) - so, for example, GM exports of the Impala (btw, the only overseas market where the Impala is exported to), CT6, XT5, ATS, Corvette, Camaro, etc. can be sold over there in US-spec w/ no changes needed.

Haven't heard of another market which offers that (Japan and China certainly don't).
 
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SKorea has an FTA w/ the US (granted, doesn't seem to mean much these days).

There hasn't been any limit on US auto imports into Korea in years (why would there be when the Germans are making a killing in that market?).

Under the amended FTA, SKorea doubled the # of US imports which don't have to be meet Korean safety or emissions regulations (which is what I think you were alluding to) - so, for example, GM exports of the Impala (btw, the only overseas market where the Impala is exported to), CT6, XT5, ATS, Corvette, Camaro, etc. can be sold over there in US-spec w/ no changes needed.

Haven't heard of another market which offers that (Japan and China certainly don't).
Wow. I didn't know that about S Korea. So they can just build the cars here, pay to ship them there, and straight up? No R & D on Korean regulations or import costs at all? What a great deal for all involved...
 
It seems AutoGuide is in the process of creating a direct comparison video between the G70, Kia Stinger, and BMW 340i with some M Sport packages. This will be, to my knowledge, the first English video with the G70 compared side-by-side to other vehicles. So I look forward to that, and if I find it first I'll post it here. SaabKyle04 also recently finished driving the G70 for a week on a road trip, so that will be out sometime soon and will be one of very few (if any exist at all) longer-term impression videos.
 
^ Autoguide does a preliminary discussion of the upcoming comparison on their chat show.


Forward to the 14:30 mark.


Wow. I didn't know that about S Korea. So they can just build the cars here, pay to ship them there, and straight up? No R & D on Korean regulations or import costs at all? What a great deal for all involved...

Yep - that's a huge advantage for the domestic automakers (not that GM doesn't also build in Korea thru GM Korea).

There is however, a cap of 50k vehicles/yr, but they aren't anywhere close to hitting that no.

Ford and FCA really don't build too many models that appeal to the Korean consumer, but GM should be doing a lot better w/ Cadillac.

The KDM Malibu (which is built in Korea) for a time outsold the Sonata in retail sales and GM couldn't keep up w/ demand for the Impala as they had a limited # of diesel powertrains (this was before the Korean market started to sour on diesels after the VW fiasco).

The Germans are making a killing in Korea (one of their most lucrative markets; more lucrative than Japan which has 3x the population).
 
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Yeah, I saw their chat show and used that as my reference for AutoGuide's upcoming video. I didn't bother to post the chat show itself because they mostly just talk about opinions on the styling.
 
Yeah, I saw their chat show and used that as my reference for AutoGuide's upcoming video. I didn't bother to post the chat show itself because they mostly just talk about opinions on the styling.

Yeah, when I started watching that video on youtube when it first popped up I couldn't care less about what they were saying. I quit at about 1 minute. Haha. Thanks for the reference post, I'm looking forward to seeing their comparison.
 
a bit of a lame overall 'comparo', but the G70 scores a close win nontheless:
Faceoff: Genesis G70 vs. Infiniti Q50

interesting about the front seats called into question on the G70 - first i've heard of that. but then when i read the reviewer's glowing take on the Q50's 7AT he loses some credibility in my books. that old slushbox has long been blamed for holding back the Q50's performance.

to be honest, the Q50 comparo is the one that interests me the least from the list of competitors. i'd rather see how the G70 stacks up against offerings from MB/BMW/Audi/Lexus.

i expect it'll be another few months to see the MY '19 comparos.
 
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There are many on YouTube...just do a search on G70 and they will pop up.
 
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