Genesis G70 Reviews

[canucklehead604]

^ unless you've found something different than i, those aren't the critical test comparisons i was referring to. i'm looking for actual instrumented, back-to-back tests which pits the G70 against its contemporaries. what's on Youtube, at least what i found, is flowery and non-objective clips of the G70 and others comparing their on-paper stats - with dramatic music in the background.

C&D, MT, et al, will likely be a month or more away from publishing review articles, so i agree we'll see the first critical comparos on the 'tube.

 

[Ed Okin]

These are my three favorite reviews; two are US reviews; one is Canada. There’s nothing “technical” although in the Redline review I’ve timed the launch control 0-60s and they are consistent with Genesis’ claimed 4.5 time in the 0-60. I would not call these “flowery” especially the very meticulous Alex. You can tell that Sofyan of Redline likes the car, but does have a few negative points. Thomas of Throttle House probably gives the least hard info and he whines about a few things....

Redline:

Alex on Autos:

Throttle House:

 

[Beefer]

Smoked a new C43 AMG off the line...no chance. Rest assured he tried very hard.

 

[jailer]

Smoked a new C43 AMG off the line...no chance. Rest assured he tried very hard.

The driver probably did'nt know what they were doing obviously or it was a fake badge or something : 2017 Mercedes-AMG C43 Sedan Test | Review | Car and Driver

 

[Ed Okin]

Smoked a new C43 AMG off the line...no chance. Rest assured he tried very hard.

Wow! We are all anxiously waiting for your full review.

 

[Beefer]

The driver probably did'nt know what they were doing obviously or it was a fake badge or something : 2017 Mercedes-AMG C43 Sedan Test | Review | Car and Driver

It’s rated at 4.6 seconds...so yeah...I was quicker.

 

[jailer]

2017 C43 AMG Car and Driver :


C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 18.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.4 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 110 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 134 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 171 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g

 

[Beefer]

2017 C43 AMG Car and Driver :


C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.1 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 10.5 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 18.8 sec
Rolling start, 5-60 mph: 5.1 sec
Top gear, 30-50 mph: 2.8 sec
Top gear, 50-70 mph: 3.4 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 12.7 sec @ 110 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 134 mph
Braking, 70-0 mph: 171 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.92 g

Stick to manufacture numbers. G70 could be 4.0 for all you know.

All I know I was there...he was there...then we pulled into Home Depot and we talked. He tried. Let it rest. He also loved the G70.

 

[devellis]

Stick to manufacture numbers. G70 could be 4.0 for all you know.

All I know I was there...he was there...then we pulled into Home Depot and we talked. He tried. Let it rest. He also loved the G70.

Car & Driver tested both cars and got 4.1 for the Benz and 4.7 for the G70. You did a run against some guy from a stoplight and smoke him. Two possible conclusions:

1. You and the guy provide precisely comparable skill levels and conditions and thus provide an unimpeachable test of which car is faster.

2. Car & Driver data provide a better controlled comparison of what the two cars can do and thus is more credible.

For now, I'm leaning toward Option #2. I think you were a better driver than the other guy or perhaps something about the condition of his tires, fuel, etc. made a difference. I totally believe you when you say the car is quick and awesome. I remain skeptical about how likely it is to beat a C43 AMG under well-controlled conditions.

 

[jailer]

Car & Driver tested both cars and got 4.1 for the Benz and 4.7 for the G70. You did a run against some guy from a stoplight and smoke him. Two possible conclusions:

1. You and the guy provide precisely comparable skill levels and conditions and thus provide an unimpeachable test of which car is faster.

2. Car & Driver data provide a better controlled comparison of what the two cars can do and thus is more credible.

For now, I'm leaning toward Option #2. I think you were a better driver than the other guy or perhaps something about the condition of his tires, fuel, etc. made a difference. I totally believe you when you say the car is quick and awesome. I remain skeptical about how likely it is to beat a C43 AMG under well-controlled conditions.

Exactly.. and I know the G70 is a fast car given a competent driver.. but the C43 should be a little quicker.. HOWEVER. .. that is saying quite a bit more for the G70 than the C43 because the Merc is the somewhat hot-rodded version .. it's got the AMG badge. The G70 is NOT ..... and it's also a first attempt vehicle. So the Merc loses anyway IMO.

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[CoconutRob]

It’s rated at 4.6 seconds...so yeah...I was quicker.

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I don't think it looks as good as the g70 and by the time it is optioned out easily over 62k

 

[jailer]

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This dude know's how to drive. Watch the whole thing..

 

[KusaKusa]

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This dude know's how to drive. Watch the whole thing..

He says the G70 doesn't have rev matching, but I thought it does come have rev matching?

 

[PD705]

He says the G70 doesn't have rev matching, but I thought it does come have rev matching?

It does have rev-matching.

 

[Beefer]

It does have rev-matching.

Indeed it does...
2019 Genesis G70: Designed To Perform

 

[larrymg1]

Don't think the CR review has been posted anywhere?
Impressive 2019 Genesis G70 Poised to Challenge European Sport Sedans

 

[Ed Okin]

Exactly.. and I know the G70 is a fast car given a competent driver.. but the C43 should be a little quicker.. HOWEVER. .. that is saying quite a bit more for the G70 than the C43 because the Merc is the somewhat hot-rodded version .. it's got the AMG badge. The G70 is NOT ..... and it's also a first attempt vehicle. So the Merc loses anyway IMO.

Although the 0-60 isn’t the main concern for me, just for fun, I looked, rather unscientifically, at Sofyan’s 2nd launch on his 3.3T review. Depending on where in 15:18 he started and where in 15:23 he hit 60, this seems like a sub-5 second time.

Anyway, my 2011 Elantra does 0-60 in 9.1 per Motor Trend, 8.8 per Motor Week and 7.8 per Car & Driver, so there’s certainly a lot of variation depending on who’s testing a car.

The various video reviews are unanimous that the G70 is fast, luxurious, comfortable, and equipped with just about every tech, comfort and safety option; if you are lucky enough to see on on the road you are tempted to follow it as long as you can.

Confession: Yes, I did follow the one I saw, but very safely and only 4 freeway exits past my exit before I got off and let it go it’s way

 

[YEH]

^ unless you've found something different than i, those aren't the critical test comparisons i was referring to. i'm looking for actual instrumented, back-to-back tests which pits the G70 against its contemporaries. what's on Youtube, at least what i found, is flowery and non-objective clips of the G70 and others comparing their on-paper stats - with dramatic music in the background.

C&D, MT, et al, will likely be a month or more away from publishing review articles, so i agree we'll see the first critical comparos on the 'tube.

For what it's worth, C/D ranks the G70 5th behind the Giulia and a trio of Audis.

Since the A5/S5 coupe doesn't really belong w/ the sedans and 4-door fastbacks, really is 4th (followed by the Stinger).

Limit it to just proper sedans (taking out the fastbacks) and the G70 would be 3rd.

Frankly, think C/D is a bit overly enamored w/ Audi (like they are w/ Honda) and place a bit too much emphasis on power/performance.

Can definitely feel the FWD weight bias on the Audis and the steering feel/feedback on the Audis isn't that great.

 

[devellis]

For what it's worth, C/D ranks the G70 5th behind the Giulia and a trio of Audis.

Since the A5/S5 coupe doesn't really belong w/ the sedans and 4-door fastbacks, really is 4th (followed by the Stinger).

Limit it to just proper sedans (taking out the fastbacks) and the G70 would be 3rd.

Frankly, think C/D is a bit overly enamored w/ Audi (like they are w/ Honda) and place a bit too much emphasis on power/performance.

Can definitely feel the FWD weight bias on the Audis and the steering feel/feedback on the Audis isn't that great.

I understand what you're saying but I think a lot of people (and clearly, Car & Driver) put coupes in the same category as compact sedans with limited rear seat legroom. I know I do.

To me, the appeal of a car this size isn't its capacity to hold four people in comfort but its ability to be more nimble than larger, heavier cars. If there were a Genesis couple equivalent to the G70 currently available, I personally would prefer it to the sedan, but would consider both. For me, rear seat capacity isn't much of a consideration in this size class. Really, not many of them afford much comfort for adult rear seat passengers on a long haul. Rear doors do make getting in and out of the rear set easier but that will be a pretty rare event in any car I choose for my personal driver. We'll always have an SUV for when we need to transport more passengers and their luggage. I view the G70, as I did the BMW 3-series sedan we used to have, as best suited for one or two occupants who want a spirited-driving car for daily use and occasional trips. I suppose it would also work for a child seat or two (and better than a coupe would) but that's not an issue for me. I consider the back seat primarily storage space, with humans occasionally being what gets stored back there, but not very often. While I understand why some people consider sedans and a coupes as distinct categories, I think a lot of people cross-shop small sedans and similarly-sized coupes, especially those with performance capabilities.

 

[Tonester]

He says the G70 doesn't have rev matching, but I thought it does come have rev matching?

He also said the G70 is not a new model, but with a new engine this year. Seems like he thinks the G70 is of the same origin as G80 and G90 (designed by Hyundai, but sold as a Genesis), but actually the G70 was designed new for 2018 (in Korea) as the first design from scratch Genesis branded car (after first hiring some German designer talent!).

Regardless of this, he does a great job describing the car and demonstrating how to drive it on a track, wow! Demo of hands free using lane keep was also a first for me, nice! Highly recommend everyone to watch the video. Thanks for posting @jailer !