Genesis GV70 Reviews

[Fairburne]

I just filled up the 17.4 gallon tank and my total range was 270 miles (15.5mpg). Even light driving in the city has yielded me terrible gas mileage even in eco mode. I am in San Francisco and there are a lot of hills, but still the combines fuel economy misses the 21mpg mark by quite a bit.

I did some digging, and it seems that over inflating fuel economy figures is nothing new to Hyundai-Kai Motor Corp. In fact, there was a settlement back in 2019 related to this. This fuel-efficiency ratings scandal sullied Hyundai Motor Corp.'s image and left millions of consumers wondering if they can trust the EPA window sticker the next time they shop for a new car or truck. Hyundai has had to roll back its fuel-efficiency claims for eight models, along with an additional five rollbacks for cars and crossovers sold by its sister company, Kia Motors. Hyundai and Kia issued a joint statement saying they will give customers a personalized debit card that will reimburse them for their difference in the EPA combined fuel economy rating, based on the fuel price in their area and their own actual miles driven. The carmakers explained that the issue was rooted in an error by its South Korean test crew. The problem has been corrected and won't happen again, Kia and Hyundai say.

I love everything about this car, but I'm sorely disappointed in seeing this engine guzzle gas. I'm coming from a Range Rover and this car is requiring filling up almost twice as often.

I'm so glad gas mileage is not a priority for me. If it were I would definitely be looking at a hybrid or EV. I only drive about 6k miles per year. My commute is a 30 second walk across a street. I do understand your frustration however. Average MPG on a window sticker should be accurate. Not only am I a little heavy on the gas peddle. (Eco mode what's that?) I tend to let my car idle a lot to cool off in the summer or heat up in the winter. This totally kills the mpg. I stopped doing this once between fill-ups in the spring and my gas mileage went from 17 to 21. Just goes to show you how much gas you can waste when you let your car idle for 3 or so minutes every time you start it.

 

[Chad86tsi]

Curious if these MPG's mentioned above are dash indicted, or calculated between fill-ups? Asking because I actually want to know, not trying to challenge/flame.

I have a 2015 5.0. I drove an almost all highway-speed route for my commute, 37 miles each way. I took careful notes of miles per tank, and gallons to refill, and compared to indicated MPG. At the end of each trip my trip MPG would display after engine shut off.

It was consistently overly optimistic if I drove smooth and steady. When I ended each trip with indicated 25-26 MPG, but calculated miles driven per gallons dispensed, I routinely got 22-23 actual MPG. This was repeated over and over for 2 years, it's not a fluke. Typical ranges were 400 to 410 miles between fill-ups, and average fill up needed about 17.5 - 18 gallons = ~22-23 MPG.

I've seen indicated MPG of almost 28, but I don't think I've ever gotten better than 24 in reality. I don't trust the indications.

 

[Fairburne]

Curious if these MPG's mentioned above are dash indicted, or calculated between fill-ups? Asking because I actually want to know, not trying to challenge/flame.

I have a 2015 5.0. I drove an almost all highway-speed route for my commute, 37 miles each way. I took careful notes of miles per tank, and gallons to refill, and compared to indicated MPG. At the end of each trip my trip MPG would display after engine shut off.

It was consistently overly optimistic if I drove smooth and steady. When I ended each trip with indicated 25-26 MPG, but calculated miles driven per gallons dispensed, I routinely got 22-23 actual MPG. This was repeated over and over for 2 years, it's not a fluke. Typical ranges were 400 to 410 miles between fill-ups, and average fill up needed about 17.5 - 18 gallons = ~22-23 MPG.

I've seen indicated MPG of almost 28, but I don't think I've ever gotten better than 24 in reality. I don't trust the indications.

The only question I have and this goes for anyone. Do you use the remote start feature? Do you start the car and let it idle even if just for a minute or two before driving away? Or do you get in it every time start it and drive? As I mentioned in my previous post I gained about 4 mpg when I stopped letting my car idle for more then 10 to 15 seconds max. This is why those stupid start/stop features have been added. A lot of gas is wasted even when your stopped for a short time at a light or stop sign. Pre starting your car guzzles the gas.

 

[Etex]

 

[Davep]

If I was driving that much in SF, I would have waited for the EV coming out next year.

General comment: I rarely doubt another driver’s reported MPG’s. Driving styles and conditions vary so much. I do sometimes wonder about other driver’s purchase choices, as they do about mine, lol. Personally, I don’t see the need to spend thousands of dollars to upgrade to an engine that is more powerful than I tend to use.

What one buys is a matter of personal preference, need, and financial ability. There are plenty of people who buy Porsches, Mercedes, and BMWs with more power than they really need. We live in the mountains, and I specifically wanted the 3.5T, but I wanted it also because I don’t care for a 4 cylinder, and we can easily afford the extra $ for the 3.5T.

The only question I have and this goes for anyone. Do you use the remote start feature? Do you start the car and let it idle even if just for a minute or two before driving away? Or do you get in it every time start it and drive? As I mentioned in my previous post I gained about 4 mpg when I stopped letting my car idle for more then 10 to 15 seconds max. This is why those stupid start/stop features have been added. A lot of gas is wasted even when your stopped for a short time at a light or stop sign. Pre starting your car guzzles the gas.

Bingo! Idling at stop lights or stop signs destroys gas mileage. Hence the need for ECO.

 

[ottawa]

The quality of the stop/start is something (relatively minor) that we took into consideration. Subaru's is really rough to the point of being annoying even when not paying attention. Tucson Hybrid of course was smooth as silk (I say "of course", because I assume the restart always happens after you start rolling, the standing start being powered by the battery). I recall Genesis, non-HEV Tucson, and others, being slightly noticeable but better than the Subaru (and I've seen commentary on Subaru sites for a while, complaining about it). If I'm always going to disable stop/start on a new Subaru, then the benefit over worse fuel consumption ratings of the Hyundai universe narrow (Subaru w/o S/S vs Hyundai w/ S/S).

Of course on long-distance highway driving, the difference with and without S/S becomes a non-issue.

And yes, I'm aware if I truly cared about wasting resources or wasting money, I wouldn't be buying 300HP. I still plan my errands close to how I did when I was a transit rider, do a lot of tasks on one trip, do them in efficient order, etc.

 

[Gene5is]

The only question I have and this goes for anyone. Do you use the remote start feature? Do you start the car and let it idle even if just for a minute or two before driving away? Or do you get in it every time start it and drive? As I mentioned in my previous post I gained about 4 mpg when I stopped letting my car idle for more then 10 to 15 seconds max. This is why those stupid start/stop features have been added. A lot of gas is wasted even when your stopped for a short time at a light or stop sign. Pre starting your car guzzles the gas.

I never use remote start, always get in and go. I do a fair amount of both city and highway driving and I do not mash the throttle. Still the displayed mpg does not match actual real world mpg. I've had cars where it's been a few mpg off from what was listed, but the reason I'm bringing this up, is because the gas mileage I'm actually getting is over 25% less than what is listed even when feathering the throttle.

 

[G-584632]

I never use remote start, always get in and go. I do a fair amount of both city and highway driving and I do not mash the throttle. Still the displayed mpg does not match actual real world mpg. I've had cars where it's been a few mpg off from what was listed, but the reason I'm bringing this up, is because the gas mileage I'm actually getting is over 25% less than what is listed even when feathering the throttle.

I have not actually calculated as you did, but our previous car got 25-30 MPG and our new GV70 used about the same amount of gas on our recent 700 mile trip as did the old car. I am confident the 26.6 MPG registered was fairly accurate.

 

[Davep]

I never use remote start, always get in and go. I do a fair amount of both city and highway driving and I do not mash the throttle. Still the displayed mpg does not match actual real world mpg. I've had cars where it's been a few mpg off from what was listed, but the reason I'm bringing this up, is because the gas mileage I'm actually getting is over 25% less than what is listed even when feathering the throttle.

I have not calculated MPG the way you did but am fairly certain the 26.6 MPG registered is fairly accurate. Our previous car got 25-30 MPG and we used about the same amount of gas on this trip as we did with our previous car. Perhaps, there’s an issue with your particular car. You may want to take it in to the service departmet and have it checked out.

 

[Davep]

Interesting review. His review agrees with what I’ve being saying: on an OVERALL basis, it beats almost all of its rivals.

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[Gene5is]

Interesting review. His review agrees with what I’ve being saying: on an OVERALL basis, it beats almost all of its rivals.

Wonderful review. Thanks for sharing Davep!

 

[GV70-PA]

I just filled up the 17.4 gallon tank and my total range was 270 miles (15.5mpg). Even light driving in the city has yielded me terrible gas mileage even in eco mode. I am in San Francisco and there are a lot of hills, but still the combines fuel economy misses the 21mpg mark by quite a bit.

I did some digging, and it seems that over inflating fuel economy figures is nothing new to Hyundai-Kai Motor Corp. In fact, there was a settlement back in 2019 related to this. This fuel-efficiency ratings scandal sullied Hyundai Motor Corp.'s image and left millions of consumers wondering if they can trust the EPA window sticker the next time they shop for a new car or truck. Hyundai has had to roll back its fuel-efficiency claims for eight models, along with an additional five rollbacks for cars and crossovers sold by its sister company, Kia Motors. Hyundai and Kia issued a joint statement saying they will give customers a personalized debit card that will reimburse them for their difference in the EPA combined fuel economy rating, based on the fuel price in their area and their own actual miles driven. The carmakers explained that the issue was rooted in an error by its South Korean test crew. The problem has been corrected and won't happen again, Kia and Hyundai say.

I love everything about this car, but I'm sorely disappointed in seeing this engine guzzle gas. I'm coming from a Range Rover and this car is requiring filling up almost twice as often.

That was some years ago. My Veloster N is rated at 28 mpg on the highway and getting 31 mpg is not hard. The way that car is setup it is hard not to drive it like an amusement park ride. My Genesis Coupe was the ONLY car excluded from the 2011 - 2013 mpg settlement. The reason is that it was a sporty car and would never be driven in a manner to achieve good mileage. Well...that part is true.

 

[YEH]

I just filled up the 17.4 gallon tank and my total range was 270 miles (15.5mpg). Even light driving in the city has yielded me terrible gas mileage even in eco mode. I am in San Francisco and there are a lot of hills, but still the combines fuel economy misses the 21mpg mark by quite a bit.

I did some digging, and it seems that over inflating fuel economy figures is nothing new to Hyundai-Kai Motor Corp. In fact, there was a settlement back in 2019 related to this. This fuel-efficiency ratings scandal sullied Hyundai Motor Corp.'s image and left millions of consumers wondering if they can trust the EPA window sticker the next time they shop for a new car or truck. Hyundai has had to roll back its fuel-efficiency claims for eight models, along with an additional five rollbacks for cars and crossovers sold by its sister company, Kia Motors. Hyundai and Kia issued a joint statement saying they will give customers a personalized debit card that will reimburse them for their difference in the EPA combined fuel economy rating, based on the fuel price in their area and their own actual miles driven. The carmakers explained that the issue was rooted in an error by its South Korean test crew. The problem has been corrected and won't happen again, Kia and Hyundai say.

I love everything about this car, but I'm sorely disappointed in seeing this engine guzzle gas. I'm coming from a Range Rover and this car is requiring filling up almost twice as often.

Um, that was basically restating mileage by 1-2 mpg.

And the model that got the most flack for not meeting its EPA rating was the Elantra.

And yet, when Popular Mechanics and C/D ran their highway mileage test on the Elantra, they actually were able to beat the rating (as they say, ymmv).

Since then, HMG had been, if anything, conservative when it comes to mileage ratings, which is why many publications have been able to meet or exceed the rating in their testing.

This has even translated to their electrics where HMG EVs have come closest to meeting their claimed range, unlike a certain EV maker based in the South Bay.

Ford has a more abysmal record with their Ecoboost engines when it comes to fuel economy (and acceleration as well).

BMW also had to restate their fuel economy rating for their models equipped with the turbo 4.

 

[YEH]

Usually avoid watching DD reviews, but was able to stomach watching a good part of it.

With him liking the GV70 so much and Matt (Carwow) praising the EV6 to the high heavens (after really liking the i20N), some heads are going to explode.

 

[CarlEightySix]

Interesting review. His review agrees with what I’ve being saying: on an OVERALL basis, it beats almost all of its rivals.

He told me on reddit if he was in the market for this segment this is the car he would buy.

 

[TBickell]

Good to FINALLY see some real reviews in this country!! He even alluded to it when he said " no one is talking about this car" !! It's been for 4 months and Genesis blew the launch. Not that they have lots full but still. There should have been some advertising and a more cohesive roll out.

 

[Pearlturbo]

Good to FINALLY see some real reviews in this country!! He even alluded to it when he said " no one is talking about this car" !! It's been for 4 months and Genesis blew the launch. Not that they have lots full but still. There should have been some advertising and a more cohesive roll out.

I agree, but why create such a huge demand with no cars to sell? It’ll be letting customers down.

 

[TBickell]

Every other new car had full reviews before they hit show rooms like the new SantaCruz...

 

[Etex]

Good to FINALLY see some real reviews in this country!! He even alluded to it when he said " no one is talking about this car" !! It's been for 4 months and Genesis blew the launch. Not that they have lots full but still. There should have been some advertising and a more cohesive roll out.

In case you missed it before, here's the Genesis US Director of Marketing strategy, (full digital).

Genesis Wields Wide Appeal, But Brand Focuses On Digital Targeting

If ever there were a new car brand that could rely on broad strokes in its marketing, that would be Genesis.

www.forbes.com

 

[TBickell]

I did a 100 mile roundtrip freeway trip yesterday and got 28.4 on the computer. Speeds were 60-80 varied with traffic. It was also 107 degree's which doesn't help. I'm ok with that. As I have said this is a 20 MPG vehicle with the bigger V6. Probably 22 MPG with the 4 popper. I knew this going in so not surprised. I'm not interested in plugging in my car.