Genesis GV70 Reviews

[YEH]

^ Well, don't think whether the SK marker cares about performance should have much of a bearing on what purportedly sportier trims should get in other markets.

After all, hasn't affected the N/N-Line; don't think SK gets the Sonata N-Line.

Agree that Genesis is looking to straight EVs to compete when it comes to performance, but right now, there's no reason for them to not have at least some suspension upgrades, if not a power upgrade, like they did with the original G80 Sport.

Just disagreeing with their dumbing down of the Sport moniker into nothing more than a cosmetic package.

 

[Backslack]

^ Well, don't think whether the SK marker cares about performance should have much of a bearing on what purportedly sportier trims should get in other markets.

After all, hasn't affected the N/N-Line; don't think SK gets the Sonata N-Line.

It does, because the brunt of Genesis sales are still in South Korea. They have to cater to South Korean tastes first and foremost to keep the brand alive. A Sonata is a mainstream Hyundai, and so like the Ioniq 5 N, there is more incentive to give it more power because it's a global product sold in many other markets in significant volumes.

 

[YEH]

No it doesn't.

Genesis doesn't have to use the Sport trim moniker in Korea (different markets have different trim names, much less equipment).

And like had stated, they had no problem differentiating the original G80 Sport by giving it the 3.3TT and some suspension tweaks.

Even the new G80 Sport is somewhat differentiated with rear-steering, so Genesis' usage of the Sport moniker has hardly been uniform.

 

[Backslack]

You are aware that the new G80 Sport does have a stiffer suspension setup than the original model?

Either way, asking Genesis to create a performance division that nobody in the Korean market will buy to justify the cost is a total waste of time and money. And the U.S. market is even less interested when Genesis as a brand is barely a blip sales-wise here.

The fact that we got a the supercharged engine in the SWB G90 while the Korean market didn't is something of a small miracle.

 

[Lionorion]

Fascinating comparison of GV70 v RDX from an auto engineers perspective:

 

[Lionorion]

Fascinating comparison of GV70 v RDX from an auto engineers perspective:

I bet if his test 2.5 GV70 had better tires then the OEM one’s, his opinion would be flipped on the thinking the front wheel drive based RDX is a better handler. He also doesn’t point out the fact that the A-spec has an adaptive suspension v The 2.5’s single set up.

Oh well, it was still an interesting perspective.

 

[vin0770]

Fascinating comparison of GV70 v RDX from an auto engineers perspective:

He says…he wants the front wheel drive bias awd RDX for a twisty mountain road drive? Huh? He did say he was an engineer right?

 

[Backslack]

He says…he wants the front wheel drive bias awd RDX for a twisty mountain road drive? Huh? He did say he was an engineer right?

To be fair, SH-AWD is a very competent system that can distribute more power to the rear in certain situations. It's no cheap Haldex like on a Lexus NX.

I think the other major difference is that the standard 2.5T GV70 is softer sprung than the RDX, so there's more body roll when cornering.

 

[Beefer]

Regarding the new G90...just wanted to clear up some lingo being thrown around. The new engine is not supercharged. It is still a twin turbo 3.5 engine...but with an added electric supercharger that helps in the low-med RPM's. An electric supercharger has zero lag compared to a mechanical supercharger...as it is directly mounted to the throttle instead of any belts, etc.

Essentially the bolt on electric supercharger eliminates any turbo lag that the 3.5TT may experience (albeit very minor) in the low end.

They did NOT replace the TT engine with a traditional mechanical supercharged engine.

 

[Lionorion]

He says…he wants the front wheel drive bias awd RDX for a twisty mountain road drive? Huh? He did say he was an engineer right?

Sorry guys. Just goes to show how important it is to watch the whole thing before deciding whether to post.

This guy is clearly not a skilled driver.

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[cruskal]

He says…he wants the front wheel drive bias awd RDX for a twisty mountain road drive? Huh? He did say he was an engineer right?

Depends on what you're looking at. I haven't seen the video, generally, an FWD would work out better for a normal driver who can control the car in the direction they steer to vs RWD which would require more skill in that situation.

I can't say how much difference FWD / RWD biased AWD would be though

 

[boston02118]

Car and Driver posted a comparison test of the GV70 vs. the X3, and (oddly) the Lexus RX:

Car and Driver: 2022 BMW X3 M40i vs. Genesis GV70 3.5T Sport vs. Lexus RX350 F Sport

A fun read and good summary of the relative merits and demerits of the X3 vs. GV70.

 

[Husky]

Yeah, that's a great review. Should boost GV70 sales even more.

 

[Backslack]

Car and Driver posted a comparison test of the GV70 vs. the X3, and (oddly) the Lexus RX:

Car and Driver: 2022 BMW X3 M40i vs. Genesis GV70 3.5T Sport vs. Lexus RX350 F Sport

A fun read and good summary of the relative merits and demerits of the X3 vs. GV70.

Honestly, even if the new NX were there instead of the RX it would still be dead last for mostly the same reasons as the RX.

Funny enough the one aspect that the NX has that's closer to the X3 than the GV70 are its run-flat tires.

 

[YEH]

You are aware that the new G80 Sport does have a stiffer suspension setup than the original model?

Either way, asking Genesis to create a performance division that nobody in the Korean market will buy to justify the cost is a total waste of time and money. And the U.S. market is even less interested when Genesis as a brand is barely a blip sales-wise here.

The fact that we got a the supercharged engine in the SWB G90 while the Korean market didn't is something of a small miracle.

Yes - (but for the Prestige) as well as Sport+ mode.and stickier rubber.

Hence, my criticism centered on the GV70 Sport, albeit wish Genesis had waited for the e-SC 3.5TT before they offered the G80 Sport Prestige.

Um, not asking for a performance division (at least not yet), but simply to make SOME differentiation when they use the Sport moniker, aside from cosmetic.

Like had stated, there's no reason to use the Sport moniker in the Korean market if there is no demand for something sportier (actually think there is some demand evidenced by BMW building their 1st Performance Driving Centre in Asia in Korea).

The KDM originally had a different nameplate (EQ900) for the flagship sedan, so don't see why it would be an issue for having different trim monikers.

 

[YEH]

I bet if his test 2.5 GV70 had better tires then the OEM one’s, his opinion would be flipped on the thinking the front wheel drive based RDX is a better handler. He also doesn’t point out the fact that the A-spec has an adaptive suspension v The 2.5’s single set up.

Oh well, it was still an interesting perspective.

Rubber makes a huge difference, as well as skill of the driver.

For instance, one can tell the difference in skill of the driver in their analysis of the GV70 3.5T Sport.

Some reviewers have stated that it's not as dynamic as it should be, whereas others state that it's as good as anything bar the top-spec Stelvio or Macan.

There have even been reviewers who have stated that they can't fully utilize Sport+ mode while street driving and that it would take a closed circuit to safely test the limits.

SH-AWD or not, still going to feel the plow of the weight fore of the front axle when entering turns at speed.

 

[YEH]

Car and Driver posted a comparison test of the GV70 vs. the X3, and (oddly) the Lexus RX:

The major auto and industry pubs have typically classified the RX (as well as the XT5) in the midsize segment alongside the X3, GLC, etc. pretty much based on price (same goes with the NX being classified with the likes of the X1, etc.), but this is the 1st time can recall C/D or MT including the RX in an actual comparison with RWD compacts.

 

[Backslack]

Yes - (but for the Prestige) as well as Sport+ mode.and stickier rubber.

Hence, my criticism centered on the GV70 Sport, albeit wish Genesis had waited for the e-SC 3.5TT before they offered the G80 Sport Prestige.

Um, not asking for a performance division (at least not yet), but simply to make SOME differentiation when they use the Sport moniker, aside from cosmetic.

Like had stated, there's no reason to use the Sport moniker in the Korean market if there is no demand for something sportier (actually think there is some demand evidenced by BMW building their 1st Performance Driving Centre in Asia in Korea).

The KDM originally had a different nameplate (EQ900) for the flagship sedan, so don't see why it would be an issue for having different trim monikers.

The GV70 Sport is the only way you can get the 3.5 TTV6, hence why it is called that. Same with the U.S. G80 starting this year.

The Sport moniker in the Korean market is entirely optional. You can get the 3.5TT V6 in both the G80 and GV70 without the Sport package, whereas you can't do that in the U.S. That goes to show how almost totally inconsequential it is in the South Korean market.

Overall, I'm not really sure what you're asking for. Sport fits fine with Genesis just like M-Sport or F-Sport. It is not and never will be a full performance brand like Hyundai's N.

 

[cruskal]

The GV70 Sport is the only way you can get the 3.5 TTV6, hence why it is called that. Same with the U.S. G80 starting this year.

The Sport moniker in the Korean market is entirely optional. You can get the 3.5TT V6 in both the G80 and GV70 without the Sport package, whereas you can't do that in the U.S. That goes to show how almost totally inconsequential it is in the South Korean market.

Overall, I'm not really sure what you're asking for. Sport fits fine with Genesis just like M-Sport or F-Sport. It is not and never will be a full performance brand like Hyundai's N.

GV70 also comes with a 2.5T Sports prestige package. Sports moniker is mostly for the looks.

 

[etiennewheeler]

The newest Issue of Car and Driver rated the GV70 over BMW and Lexus .