Have you had problems with your Genesis?

[2California]

Took my Genesis in at 8 am today for it's 15K maint. ck. Picked up car at noon-pd few hundred dollars for maint. ck the dealership said all is good, they had washed looked great, went to leave dealership, my spouse sd as I was backing out to depart from dealship, I did not have any break lights. Quite distrubing since car was supposely ck throughly. It has been two hrs since told to p/up car and still no one knows why break lights not operating. Wondering if anyone else has experience this problem. Otherwise the Genesis has an excellent vehicle.

 

[knight]

Folks, reposting my thread here. I had problems and they were fixed, I now have a brand new 2010 Genesis. Read more at the link below.

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=3839

-knight

 

[maniac1181]

One issue so far... in at 300km on the counter... Driver's door won't unlock electronically, I need to use the key (outside) or the buttons (inside) to unlock it...

 

[genesis009]

OK, I have had a couple minor annoyances but nothing major. When I run the car using the proximity key vs putting it in the key slot, when i turn it off with the door open or ajar it continually beeps until u close the door. at first i thought i left my lights on after i had turned off the car, i realized that it was not the lights. Its weird. I also am wondering when u guys turn off the car does the steering wheel make a weird swishing sound? Its pretty loud. Just wondering if that was normal. Also my drivers door doesn't stay in place when open when on an angle maybe that door bumper thing is worn. Also some sauce from my general cho's chicken spilled out of the bag on my passenger seat...very little like a couple of teaspoons but it got under the perforated leather well i guess that was all my fault. there are A couple other small things but i cant remember right now. Ill post if I do.

 

[mikec]

OK, I have had a couple minor annoyances but nothing major. When I run the car using the proximity key vs putting it in the key slot, when i turn it off with the door open or ajar it continually beeps until u close the door.

If I open the door before shutting the engine off I get the beeps as well. I rarely use the dash garage/bay for the key fob; the vast majority of the time it's in my pocket. Look on the door jamb, about elbow height as you sit in the seat: you'll see a black rubber bellows covering a button. With the door open, engine off, car beeping, press that button. You'll hear the double-syllable "whizzt-whizzt" of your steering wheel lock mechanism engage (it's a normal sound) and the beeping should stop too. The car just doesn't like thinking you're about to leave while the engine is still running so it beeps.

I also am wondering when u guys turn off the car does the steering wheel make a weird swishing sound? Its pretty loud. Just wondering if that was normal.

Steering wheel locking. Normal sound.

Also my drivers door doesn't stay in place when open when on an angle maybe that door bumper thing is worn.

compare to the passenger door. If one is different from the other then there is a mechanical problem.

Also some sauce from my general cho's chicken spilled out of the bag on my passenger seat...very little like a couple of teaspoons but it got under the perforated leather well i guess that was all my fault.

No eating/drinking EVER in any of my cars. Just groceries in the trunks. Food stains and spills are one of the fastest ways to "stink up" a car in my opinion. If I'm bringing food home from a restaurant or fast food joint? It's either in the trunk's cargo netting or on the floor in the back seat - with the small carpet panel flipped upside down.

mike c.

 

[Disaster]

No eating/drinking EVER in any of my cars. Just groceries in the trunks. Food stains and spills are one of the fastest ways to "stink up" a car in my opinion. If I'm bringing food home from a restaurant or fast food joint? It's either in the trunk's cargo netting or on the floor in the back seat - with the small carpet panel flipped upside down.
mike c.

Food...and sweaty gym clothes. If you have to leave your sweaty clothes/shoes in the car...including the trunk (which isn't sealed from the car) invest in an airtight bag...like a huge ziplock. I also bought the trunk liner...much better protection for spills.

P.S. That reminds me of a colleagues car. Her kids spilled a shake on the back carpet. Horrendous smell. I only drove with her once....cough...hack. Can't believe she drives in that car every day.

 

[ASHDUMP]

It always bugs the hell out of me when people have rules about eating and drinking in their car.

 

[Ron Veenker]

It always bugs the hell out of me when people have rules about eating and drinking in their car.

LOL, Ashdump. Remind me not to pick you up at the Dairy Queen.

have a good day,

Ron

PS: Owner's Forums seem to attract anal retentive types... that would be me.

 

[ASHDUMP]

LOL, Ashdump. Remind me not to pick you up at the Dairy Queen.

have a good day,

Ron

PS: Owner's Forums seem to attract anal retentive types... that would be me.

haha.

WOW! I don't think I've ever had a Dairy Queen before but if you're buying I'll pick you up and we can enjoy the shakes on drive back!!!

 

[Doc]

I have had a few problems all seem to be related to electronic throttle or throttle position sensor
1. Car completely lost power wouldn't respond to accelerator, in a busy intersection....luckily I was able to turn it off, restart it, then limp across to a parking lot. Had to tow car to the dealer. Error light showed it was the TPS. It was adjusted.
2. Happened again in about a week.
3. Recently problems with excessive revving at startup, at first it would just "vroom" and go back and forth between 750-1000 rpm, no big deal but kind of weird. A couple weeks later it revved to 2500 rpm before I had even put it in reverse to leave my garage, kind of scary as it felt it was going to take off at high speed. No error or warning lights with either of these events, dealer unable to reproduce the events.
4. I saw a post from another member (mcginnpm)about another thing my car does, I call it chugging or shuddering. When driving at highway speeds, with or without cruise control, it will occasionally give a shudder or chug-chug hesitation, then go back to driving smoothly. When this happens there is no change in the rpm and no warning lights.
5. I saw a post from another member (ehayden1) describing the final problem I am having, with trying to accelerate smoothly from a stop. As he describes, the car hesitates, leading me to apply a little more gas, then it kicks in a little abruptly. I's like a bad shift sequence or like my bad driving with my one manual transmission car in the past. It has not always done this and I feel bad for my passengers!
I still like my Genesis and I drive it A LOT (60 to 90 miles a day).

Any advice for any of these problems is welcome

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[kev4]

If I were you I would see the dealer soon. You could have a Toyoto problem with you throttle position system.

 

[gator749]

-Replaced head unit and amplifier due to whine in the audio. Took several months of hassle with the dealer and Hyundai.

-Out of date nav, no fix on the horizon.

The car is great otherwise and gets lots of compliments.

 

[Kingrad]

Just had my 2009 Genesis die in my garage. How can a battery die with only 5K miles?

Question for anyone, how can my car be towed to a dealer if I can't move the shift to "neutral?" the shifter is "locked" in park.

I am sure that i am missing something basic here!

Thanks,
Kingrad

 

[mikec]

The tow truck (hopefully a flatbed) should be able to jump using the under-hood posts; that'll provide enough electrical power to shift into neutral the normal way.

For a non-flatbed truck, most tow trucks also have dollies they can slip under the rear wheels - so the vehicle's transmission and/or parking brake can be locked.

Battery discharge can come from:
* some light left on: dome light, trunk light, door courtesy lights, etc. This can happen from a busted/shorted door open/closed sense switch, leaving the overhead light swtich ON, trunk or glove box not fully closed, etc. It'll take a couple days to totally kill a battery with small lights like these though.

* stereo/DVD system remained ON too long. The stock Tech package system (I don't know about the non-Tech packages but I'll bet they're similar) when you shut the car off goes to a "standby" mode in case you restart the car in just a few minutes. After 20 minutes or so it fully powers down. That's why the navigation system is "ready" if you just run into the 7-Eleven for a few minutes... but needs a full restart/boot if you've left the car parked for a while. If something is wrong with the system, it may sit in the standby mode forever... sucking the battery down overnight.

* alternator has a shorted diode inside it... basically shorting out the battery. Such alternators can still charge the battery when the engine runs (because 2 out of 3 phases of the alternator still work) but will suck it down overnight thanks to the failed phase.

* Plain old defective battery: water leaked out, internal contacts busted open, etc. Or sloppy/loose battery connection posts & cables.

The dealer SHOULD do a few tests once they have the vehicle:
1: charge the battery and then put a load cell test on it: basically measure the battery voltage while it's connected to a high-amp load for a few minutes. This basically measures the battery capacity - is it a car battery or is it 12volts of "AAA" batteries?

2: with the engine running, measure the alternator's output voltage AND the "ripple" voltage. A high "ripple" voltage indicates a busted or shorted phase. If there is excessive ripple, the alternator should be replaced.

3: use a clamp-on style amp meter to measure the current flow with the vehicle OFF. This should be a low value (maintaining the clock, stereo station memory, etc.); if it's more than an amp or two something is ON that shouldn't be ON. Pulling fuses one by one is a simple way to isolate the circuit - when the clamp-on meter suddenly drops the fuse just pulled is the faulty circuit. Of course while pulling fuses somebody has to hold the door open/closed button in the "closed" position or else the interior lights will be ON leading to high amp flow that could mask the real problem.

mike c.

 

[Kingrad]

Mike,
I appreciate the information. I have never had a push button start before so this is a first for me. Hopefully it will be my last. Other than this battery problem my Genesis has been problem free.

Kingrad

 

[ASHDUMP]

Do you leave you key fog in the car over night? I think I read on here that someone was having a problem and concluded it was because he was leaving the fob in the car that was parked in the garage.

I guess it makes the LCD screen stay on or something like that. I've seen in happen in my car a couple times right when I get in. The blue light where you put the disc in stays on as well.

 

[ADEN]

Occasionally (it happened 3 times in the first 2500 miles) I could not move the shift lever sideways and into gear, after starting the engine. So far all I had to do was to turn off the engine, restart, and shift lever would work properly.
Did anyone else encounter this problem? What might be causing this?

Otherwise the car is great, accelerates like a sports car

 

[Doc]

If I were you I would see the dealer soon. You could have a Toyoto problem with you throttle position system.

If this advice is for me (Doc) I just got my car back after they kept it overnight to see if this revving problem would show itself.

My dealership is nice, very nice, pat me on the head type of nice, but if there is a problem with my car that does not produce an error code for their diagnostic computer, they don't believe the problem exists and don't try to investigate further.

Makes me miss the wise mechanic with grease on his hands and experience on his side.

The car is still doing this, unfortunately not every time. How can I get a more thorough investigation of the problem?

 

[ehayden1]

Doc, your problem sounds very similar to mine. Mine out of nowhere, accelerated unpredictably from stop and especially into turns from a stop. And when driving twice the engine "nanny'ed" down to about 20 miles per hour and wouldn't change out of gear and the ESC lamp lit up. The dealer says that is indicative of the car going into "failsafe" mode. It can be reset by the dealer but the root cause is probably still there. The throttle body assembly and throttle position sensor was completely replaced which was causing my conditions.

They described it to me as the accelerator/velocity condition was not sensed correctly by the engine control module which was having problems with transmission shift point decisions. It causes improper shifting and hesitation/surging at unexpected times. Not enough failures to create a TSB or recall but it happens often enough you can find several posting on the subject.

If you are still having the problems, don't let it get you into a more dangerous situation, have them look for TSBs on the throttle position sensor and throttle body. They "adjusted" mine the first time. It recurred within a week and I called and they did not hesitate to replace everything when I told them I was traveling at 55 miles per hour and the car downshifted to 20 and I was in the middle lane of the highway at the time. I was forturnate someone let me move in front of them to the emergency lane to turn off the moter and restart it.

Restarting the motor allows you to get control back and you can drive it to the dealer.

Good luck, it is an easy success and repair once they agree it is the culprit. It takes about 2.5 hours to fix and under warranty.

Eric

 

[Doc]

Thank you very much for your response, ehayden1

I am going to print out all the threads from this forum with problems like mine and show the dealership. Maybe they will take my concerns more seriously if I have specific information. I am glad to hear it can be fixed and that this problem does happen without displaying an error code. The very first time this happened it did display the "esc" as you mentioned.

Thanks for the help
Doc