HDA Update

[Genesis4life]

When I first started driving the gv80 with it's HDA mode, it was ping ponging between the lines. I posted about my concerns how it did not hold up to other manufactures driveway assist.
I've put 1400 miles on the car mostly highway in the past 3 weeks and can now say the car has learned my driving style and is on point. It's perfect and the car drives with my exactly style. Literally the most enjoyable experience. And user intervention for steering on Genesis is better than anyone else's. The amount of time with hands off steering wheel is longer than anyone else's, even Tesla. I love that the car slows down based on how sharp an upcoming turn is on the highway.

 

[2021GCSGV80]

When I first started driving the gv80 with it's HDA mode, it was ping ponging between the lines. I posted about my concerns how it did not hold up to other manufactures driveway assist.
I've put 1400 miles on the car mostly highway in the past 3 weeks and can now say the car has learned my driving style and is on point. It's perfect and the car drives with my exactly style. Literally the most enjoyable experience. And user intervention for steering on Genesis is better than anyone else's. The amount of time with hands off steering wheel is longer than anyone else's, even Tesla. I love that the car slows down based on how sharp an upcoming turn is on the highway.

Did you turn on the feature where it will copy your driving style? Or did it just learn on its own?

 

[Genesis4life]

Did you turn on the feature where it will copy your driving style? Or did it just learn on its own?

It's definitely on, I'm not sure if I had to turn it one or its on by default.

 

[SilverGV80]

I don't think you can turn it off, can you? If so, you're missing out on something huge.

 

[2021GCSGV80]

I don't think you can turn it off, can you? If so, you're missing out on something huge.

Yes, it's off by default and must be turned on.

 

[Genesis4life]

I guess I turned it on then and its amazing. Game changing, takes the typical assist features to the next level.

 

[SilverGV80]

It is definitely way less stress-inducing than any car I had before with simple automatic cruise control. They were very quick to slam on the brakes, even sometimes brake-checking people behind me (that was fun). It would also slam on the brakes if anyone cut in front of mine. This car simply knows to do drive w/o pissing off everyone else around me. It's so good!

 

[Spiral123]

Just to confirm....if I remember correctly, you ended up with the HDA I version, not HDA II?

 

[Genesis4life]

Just to confirm....if I remember correctly, you ended up with the HDA I version, not HDA II?

No I got the 2. I ended my lease early to jump on a 3.5 perstige with HDA 2 before they stopped putting them in

 

[PEB III]

I use it in the city, because the lanes on old bridges, tunnels, and the like that were built long ago, when cars were all at least 6" thinner, are very skinny. Today's cars are about 6" wider than they used to be.
Airbags and side crash bars are responsible. I guess it's a fair trade off.
it would be nice to be able to adjust the level of assistance from the steering wheel, rather having to stop and burrow down into the menu. at least if you prefer to remain alive all the way to your destination. On the Interstate, under normal conditions I felt it was not only unnecessary, but annoying. I felt like I was in a strong crosswind. It might actually be very useful in strong crosswinds, but I've not had the chance to try.

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[edpanz]

No I got the 2. I ended my lease early to jump on a 3.5 perstige with HDA 2 before they stopped putting them in

I’m not trying to change this thread but you seem like you know what you’re talking about in regards to the driver assist stuff. I just put a deposit down on a GV80 that has the $200 credit to the driver assist from a 2 to a 1. Would you be so kind as to explain to me in small words what your car can do with the driver assist 2 and the one that I intend to purchase tith the driver assist 1. Thank you in advance.

 

[Jango]

 

[2021GCSGV80]

Would you be so kind as to explain to me in small words what your car can do with the driver assist 2 and the one that I intend to purchase tith the driver assist 1. Thank you in advance.

Features Not Included:-$200.00 Highway Driving Assist replaces Highway Driving Assist II and does not include Highway Lane Change Assist, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist Suite features that are missing are Junction Crossing accident avoidance, Evasive Steering Assist and machine learning of your driving style.
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So if you are about to hit something in front of you it will not stop your car. This to me is a big deal. Not that I need it much but when you do it's a life saver. literally. The way the window sticker is worded it makes it sound like forward collision assist is not available, but they are calling forward collision assist a suite of things that the following are not available. Junction crossing accident avoidance is when someone runs a red light and you are about to get t-boned the car will stop you short of that accident or at least try to. Evasive steering assist is when someone comes into your lane the car will adjust your position or change lanes if it's clear to avoid the accident. Machine learning is where it learns your driving style and is awesome.

It's also missing Highway Lane Change assist. Which I use all the time but others don't.

Basically HDA 1 doesn't have as many sensors as the HDA 2 has. So it does't do as much accident avoidance.

 

[edpanz]

Features Not Included:-$200.00 Highway Driving Assist replaces Highway Driving Assist II and does not include Highway Lane Change Assist, Forward Collision-Avoidance Assist, Junction Crossing accident avoidance, Evasive Steering Assist and machine learning of your driving style.
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So if you are about to hit something in front of you it will not stop your car. This to me is a big deal. Not that I need it much but when you do it's a life saver. literally. Junction crossing accident avoidance is when someone runs a red light and you are about to get t-boned the car will stop you short of that accident or at least try to. Evasive steering assist is when someone comes into your lane the car will adjust your position or change lanes if it's clear to avoid the accident. Machine learning is where it learns your driving style and is awesome.

It's also missing Highway Lane Change assist. Which I use all the time but others don't.

Basically HDA 1 doesn't have as many sensors as the HDA 2 has. So it does't do as much accident avoidance.

 

[NLTND]

If you do inventory searches on the Genesis website and expand your search criteria what you will notice is there are some trims with HDA1 with that tiny discount and some others with HDA2. Just depends, but the Genesis search identifies each easily and can direct you to a dealer that has the HDA2 if you really want that feature like I do.

My take is due to some chip shortages they are parsing them out and putting them mostly on the new Signature Edition and the 3.5T Prestige trims until the shortage resolves itself.

 

[Genesis2021*]

Did the 2021 G80 2.5 Prestige ever have HDA 2 ? I bought back in March 2021. not sure of I have HDA 1 or 2. I believe mine does lane changes but not front end collision.

 

[Genesis4life]

Did the 2021 G80 2.5 Prestige ever have HDA 2 ? I bought back in March 2021. not sure of I have HDA 1 or 2. I believe mine does lane changes but not front end collision.

You have hda 2

 

[Genesis2021*]

Thanks

 

[McClendons]

I had HDA in a 200 Hyundai Palisade, and now have HDA II in a GV80. To be honest, if you start with HDA I, the system was very capable and pleasant to use. I really enjoyed it, and it made the Palisade very easy to drive on the highway. When I got HDA II, and the system was "broken in" (the driving style learning), I feel it is much superior. The system, due to driving style learning, is much smoother in its reaction, where HDA I could use heavier braking/acceleration/steering inputs than I would use casually on a highway. As I mentioned though, -had I not driven HDA II, I would sing praises of HDA I. I do feel HDA II is worth way more than $200 though.

As to specific features, the basic stuff (lane centering steering assist, front accident avoidance/braking, auto cruise) are very similar. HDA I was just a little more jerky to me, as it did not learn my style. HDA I did NOT have the lane change assist......which is an OK feature I guess, but I do not really use it. The side sensors for HDA II probably add a layer of security, but changing lanes yourself is pretty easy. The driver style learning is excellent once it learns! At first though, maybe the 1st 1K miles, I thought the system was terrible compared to HDA I. It ping pong in lanes, was jerky, eyc. All the thing I believe indicated in original post. Once it learned though, as good as any system I've driven (have not driven the Tesla systems, nor the top line GM/Caddy that are coming out). I have mixed feelings about the three assist modes of HDA II for forward collision avoidance, junction avoidance, and evasive assist. I've only had the avoidance assist go off once when someone cut in my lane, and it did a good job. It slowed with brakes, and steered away from vehicle, very similar to what I would have done. I am fearful though that in a very dynamic situation, it might not react as I do, and we could be fighting each other. Hopeful will never be in that situation. I just wonder what it would do if it chooses between a bike and a car though, where I would choose to impact a car, would the system see the smaller bike as a lessor return and go in its direction?

Bottom line: HDA I was a good system, and I liked it. Now that I have HDA II, I do not want to look back. I do believe $200 is not fair compensation, although it might represent Genesis cost (not sell price). If I needed a car now, I would likely move ahead with an HDA I GV80. If I had time to wait, I would hope HDA II comes back on market soon. Good luck

 

[Genesis4life]

I had HDA in a 200 Hyundai Palisade, and now have HDA II in a GV80. To be honest, if you start with HDA I, the system was very capable and pleasant to use. I really enjoyed it, and it made the Palisade very easy to drive on the highway. When I got HDA II, and the system was "broken in" (the driving style learning), I feel it is much superior. The system, due to driving style learning, is much smoother in its reaction, where HDA I could use heavier braking/acceleration/steering inputs than I would use casually on a highway. As I mentioned though, -had I not driven HDA II, I would sing praises of HDA I. I do feel HDA II is worth way more than $200 though.

As to specific features, the basic stuff (lane centering steering assist, front accident avoidance/braking, auto cruise) are very similar. HDA I was just a little more jerky to me, as it did not learn my style. HDA I did NOT have the lane change assist......which is an OK feature I guess, but I do not really use it. The side sensors for HDA II probably add a layer of security, but changing lanes yourself is pretty easy. The driver style learning is excellent once it learns! At first though, maybe the 1st 1K miles, I thought the system was terrible compared to HDA I. It ping pong in lanes, was jerky, eyc. All the thing I believe indicated in original post. Once it learned though, as good as any system I've driven (have not driven the Tesla systems, nor the top line GM/Caddy that are coming out). I have mixed feelings about the three assist modes of HDA II for forward collision avoidance, junction avoidance, and evasive assist. I've only had the avoidance assist go off once when someone cut in my lane, and it did a good job. It slowed with brakes, and steered away from vehicle, very similar to what I would have done. I am fearful though that in a very dynamic situation, it might not react as I do, and we could be fighting each other. Hopeful will never be in that situation. I just wonder what it would do if it chooses between a bike and a car though, where I would choose to impact a car, would the system see the smaller bike as a lessor return and go in its direction?

Bottom line: HDA I was a good system, and I liked it. Now that I have HDA II, I do not want to look back. I do believe $200 is not fair compensation, although it might represent Genesis cost (not sell price). If I needed a car now, I would likely move ahead with an HDA I GV80. If I had time to wait, I would hope HDA II comes back on market soon. Good luck

Great feed back here folks!!!

My suggestion as I keep giving is find a gv80 right now on a lot. Don't order one. There's plenty of gv80 across the usa and they are not marking these up. I used the Genesis website to find,locate and buy one within 48 hours in the color and trim I wanted.