Hyundai's 4.6L Tau V8 - Ward's announces 10 Best Engines for 2010

[TJPark01]

The price and sales experience could attract Avalon/Maxima/ES350/G37 buyers. WSJ was comparing it to a Lincoln and Buick.
However, the basic car is very comparable to the Jaguar. In other threads people here are considering the Infiniti M37. The Jaguar probably should be considered a direct, less reliable, more full featured alternative.

Visually it's a much more compelling package then any of the German or Japanese cars and I want to like Jaguars, but it's the same thing with Audi/VW. They're nice to look at but living with one everyday will drive you nuts.
It's sh** like this that will keep most people away from Jaguars:
How To Tow A Jaguar Equipped With An Electronic Shift Lever
A Jaguar XFR recently suffered electrical failure while in my care, and its electronic shift lever became locked in Park. When the time came to tow it, the car had to be in neutral. Here's the trick to shifting it.
How To Tow A Jaguar Equipped With An Electronic Shift LeverThis is a Jaguar XFR. Like many modern cars, it sports an electronic shift lever — a digital control that offers no mechanical connection to the transmission. The control that Jaguar uses, dubbed JaguarDrive, is part of an electronic cockpit ballet that heralds the moment when the car's ignition is switched on: When you hit the start button, the shifter rises from the console, the climate vents rotate forward, and the center touchscreen comes alive.
This shift lever is found on every current production Jaguar. Many luxury manufacturers use a similar device, all of them designed to make the act of driving more emotionally involving and less like actual work.
This is fine, except when stuff breaks.

 

[ASHDUMP]

My .02 -

The Genesis 4.6 kills all other V8 models because I own one. Now don't tell me anything different because I don't want that $35K I spent for the Tech package to seem like I over spent.

 

[TJPark01]

My .02 -

The Genesis 4.6 kills all other V8 models because I own one. Now don't tell me anything different because I don't want that $35K I spent for the Tech package to seem like I over spent.

The only V8 you can get for that price is the 5.7 Hemi's in the Chrysler 300 or the Dodge Charger. I think I'm all set. I think the real comp for the Americans is the Ford Taurus SHO.

 

[DavidNJ]

Which is my point. The key is that the Genesis is offering a near $50-60k experience for price typically under $40k. It appeals to people in the $30-40k price range who are getting a better car with a possible loss in sales/service experience (Lexus, BMW, etc). It also appeals to people who would be $50+k buyers but don't feel the better sales/service experience is worth $10-20k.

 

[Bocatrip]

Which is my point. The key is that the Genesis is offering a near $50-60k experience for price typically under $40k. It appeals to people in the $30-40k price range who are getting a better car with a possible loss in sales/service experience (Lexus, BMW, etc). It also appeals to people who would be $50+k buyers but don't feel the better sales/service experience is worth $10-20k.

I'm not sure that owning a BMW necessarily adds a better service experience. After my dealings with BMW service and my 2002 3 series, I would prefer being in the ring with Mike Tyson. The sad thing is that many customers enjoy the abuse and can't wait to come back for more!

 

[DavidNJ]

The other Hyundai question is why the transmission forces a shift several hundred rpm below the redline.

 

[scottdk]

The other Hyundai question is why the transmission forces a shift several hundred rpm below the redline.

I'm sure many other cars do this. I had a 94 Grand Prix GTP that would shift at 6400 even though the redline was 7000. Now the Genesis. I would think other people have had other cars that did this and i'm not the only one.