I'm at a loss...

[Beefer]

The the turbo upgrade the better option on this case rather than replacing the stock turbo if it comes down to it?

No way. He does that...all warranty is off the table !! Go and stick with stock. He doesn't need to lose a dime more than he already has.

 

[NLJ]

No way. He does that...all warranty is off the table !! Go and stick with stock. He doesn't need to lose a dime more than he already has.

I think that was the initial plan anyway down the road!

 

[Bourbonncigars]

I spoke with the head service department lady again, she told me she was still working on finding a way to get this table/bench, also spoke about renting it. I asked her if I would have to pay for it, to which she replied "no."

That, in and of itself makes me feel a lot better. Looks like it will cost between 5k-6k for the repair. Even so, she said they still aren't sure exactly how to go about everything. She said that they won't do anything without my permission, first.

She told me she spoke to Genesis Corporate, or rather, they called her. I can't help but assume her change of tone was due to that phone call..? I also told her I'm considering doing it myself. She said to just let her know.

Either way, it still seems like doing it myself may be the way to go. But, I might need to take a look at it first and really soak it in and see if I am competent enough to do it.

That's good news I suppose. And hopefully it's because of the call you made to Genesis. Would be nice to know that they actually intervened on the customer's behalf.

Just think very carefully on the diy part, which we all know you are. The fact that you're not sure about it is kind of scary, given the current situation. Don't want to turn what is now back down to a $6K loss into a $10K + loss.

 

[OMG70]

What about a similar sized non-OEM turbo or a used one from a Stinger? Might be a bit cheaper from a price perspective

 

[Toddasaurus]

That's good news I suppose. And hopefully it's because of the call you made to Genesis. Would be nice to know that they actually intervened on the customer's behalf.

Just think very carefully on the diy part, which we all know you are. The fact that you're not sure about it is kind of scary, given the current situation. Don't want to turn what is now back down to a $6K loss into a $10K + loss.

Agreed.

Instead of committing to just tow it back to my house, I'm on my way up to the dealership to take a thorough look under the hood. Given this new info I have about pulling the turbo by myself, I will have a better idea of what to look for. If I feel like it's too difficult for me, I'll just leave it and let the dealership do their thing. If I feel like it's doable, I'll tow it back to my house today and chip away at it over the next several days.

I am trying to be thorough and cautious.

 

[Toddasaurus]

What about a similar sized non-OEM turbo or a used one from a Stinger? Might be a bit cheaper from a price perspective

Was thinking the same thing (ie stinger turbo). But, I'll only go that far if I am unable to re-tap the threads myself or at a machine shop.

 

[dareckibmw]

The guy, that replaced turbo in his Stinger - since he already done that, wouldn't be a good idea to make a deal with him? even fly him in to your place/town and pay him. It still should be just a fracture of what the dealer's gonna charge you, imo.

 

[Alfer]

So how will all this affect the warranty? Would stink if they wiped it out or knocked it down to 5/60K type deal. I'd be sure to ask Hyundai main reps for clarification to safe. Good luck! Hope it all works out.

 

[Toddasaurus]

At the dealership.now, and it really looks doable to get the turbo out. Infact, it looks like the manifold bolts are easier to get to than the downpipe studs were! It's got a fair bit of stuff in the way (ie intake piping, cold charge piping, oil and coolant lines), but once those are out I should be able to get the turbo out.

I'm gonna do this myself. Calling the tow company right now.

 

[FastEddie]

At the dealership.now, and it really looks doable to get the turbo out. Infact, it looks like the manifold bolts are easier to get to than the downpipe studs were! It's got a fair bit of stuff in the way (ie intake piping, cold charge piping, oil and coolant lines), but once those are out I should be able to get the turbo out.

I'm gonna do this myself. Calling the tow company right now.

Then that begs the question why the hell does the dealership feel they need to pull the engine in order to get the turbo out? my guess is Beaverton Genesis which I believe is still a Lamphere company and since Bob Sr. died it’s gone to shit

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[Toddasaurus]

Then that begs the question why the hell does the dealership feel they need to pull the engine in order to get the turbo out? my guess is Beaverton Genesis which I believe is still a Lamphere company and since Bob Sr. died it’s gone to shit

It's a good question, and I assume it's because the FSM shows that you need to pull the engine to get the turbos off. I can only assume that they have to follow the official how-to's, but that's only a guess on my part.

 

[FastEddie]

I do feel for you. I had the same thing happened on my Mini Cooper JCW busted the stud off in the turbo had to pull the entire front of the vehicle off bumper grill core support, everything just to gain access to the front of the engine and even then took me two days @ 10 hrs a day.

 

[Throat Yogurt]

Sorry to hear of your troubles Todd, but I'm glad you are going to try to fix it yourself. My suggestion going forward is to take your time and maybe try to get some help pulling the turbo. The last thing you want is to break something else. Good luck and keep us updated!

 

[Vaidhy]

At the dealership.now, and it really looks doable to get the turbo out. Infact, it looks like the manifold bolts are easier to get to than the downpipe studs were! It's got a fair bit of stuff in the way (ie intake piping, cold charge piping, oil and coolant lines), but once those are out I should be able to get the turbo out.

I'm gonna do this myself. Calling the tow company right now.

So sorry to hear everything that's happened man, I haven't dealt with anything of similar scale but as someone who also clearly cares a lot about cars I can understand the pain and stress you are in. Since you are already at the dealership, I just wanted to say a couple of things. Even if you have already called the tow-truck, try not to work on fixing the car right away. I know it looks like you can't think of anything else but you gotta find a way to step away and take your mind off the car. Even if you don't have another car, just take a rental and take a couple of days before you come back to this issue.

I had a crappy experience that is insignificant in scale compared to yours, but I thought I will share it with you to show why I think you should try and step away for a bit. Couple of months after I had gotten my car (used), I left it at my mechanic's to fix bent rims. Another customer hit my car standing on all jacks, while backing out. Thankfully the damage was minimal (just a bend near rear wheel well) and the mechanic made sure the guy paid to get it fixed. The car would go to body shop at his expense and everything would be resolved smoothly. However, in my anxiety and stress, what I failed to do was use the opportunity to get another body issue fixed at the same time. I got the car with passenger rear door keyed. I was so stressed thinking about the damages I could have had if my car had dropped off jacks and the stress of having to deal with this in a newly bought car that I failed to think of a simple, reasonable thing I would have done any other day.

Again, I understand that given the magnitude of your issue it might feel like you can't do anything but think about it. But, trust me man, try to take your mind off the car for a couple of days and come back to it with a fresh look. You would be surprised at the clarity you function with.

I hope everything works out well!

 

[Bourbonncigars]

At the dealership.now, and it really looks doable to get the turbo out. Infact, it looks like the manifold bolts are easier to get to than the downpipe studs were! It's got a fair bit of stuff in the way (ie intake piping, cold charge piping, oil and coolant lines), but once those are out I should be able to get the turbo out.

I'm gonna do this myself. Calling the tow company right now.

I'm pulling for you and hope for the best. I'm going to pour a glass and drink one in your honor tonight. Oh, and be sure and document this with pics so others can reference back to it if needed. It's kind of a big deal...

 

[Toddasaurus]

Appreciate the insight and comments you guys, it really means a lot to me. I'm beginning to feel hopeful.

And while it feels like time is of the essence for me right now, I'm gonna do my best and work slowly and carefully. I'll post my progress here, pics included.

 

[Cgo]

Want stuff done right, do it yourself! They have to write those procedures to accomodate every shop, every worker, regardless of capability. I'm sure some would complain about tight clearances, too much stress on the workers backs or arms, etc if the procedure was written to not have to remove the engine.

Be careful tapping the threads so you dont break off the tap in the hole. Get the strongest tap you can find rated for hardened steel, titanium, or whatever the turbo is made out of.

I've called corporate 3 times on two different dealerships and they were immediately responsive. Called the dealerships within 10 minutes of my call. So, at least Corporate is decent...

Good luck, we're pulling for ya!

 

[tarhoosier]

Do you have someone to give you some help, even another pair of eyes and thoughts to offer. If I were closer I would be there.

 

[MG8]

that table is bs no such thing .....smh

 

[Throat Yogurt]

that table is bs no such thing .....smh

Exactly. "Pulling the engine" to replace the turbos doesn't mean pulling the entire engine out of the car and sitting it on a table, that's absurd. Just lifting it a bit with a hoist to provide room is surely all that's needed.