I'm at a loss...

[Cgo]

Update - The machine shop said they have fixed 3 of the 4 threaded holes so far. It looks like what I assumed, there was just extra leftover material from the old studs stuck in there. Hopefully I'll know by later today if they can fix the 4th hole. If I'm lucky I won't even need to buy a new turbo!

Good, I was going to suggest taking to a machine shop.

A page or two back you mentioned not being able to get a torque wrench in there and just marking the threads. However, be careful, some if not all the bolts may be torque to yield = single use. I have no idea whether they are on this car, but most of the critical bolts were like that when I built my LS3 for my Pro Touring Chevelle. I used ARP bolts as replacements which are expensive but are not torque to yield. They can be torqued and reused multiple times.

 

[Toddasaurus]

Good, I was going to suggest taking to a machine shop.

A page or two back you mentioned not being able to get a torque wrench in there and just marking the threads. However, be careful, some if not all the bolts may be torque to yield = single use. I have no idea whether they are on this car, but most of the critical bolts were like that when I built my LS3 for my Pro Touring Chevelle. I used ARP bolts as replacements which are expensive but are not torque to yield. They can be torqued and reused multiple times.

Agreed, however looking through the service manual it looks like all the bolts that I marked are able to be reused. The copper gaskets used with those bolts, on the other hand, need to be replaced. So we should be good.

 

[Toddasaurus]

Just got a call from the machine shop, they said the 4th hole's threads cannot be totally repaired. They want to drill out the first 1-2 threads, and the rest of them are fine (6-7 threads). I told him to go ahead and do it, but I think I'm just going to buy a whole new turbo anyway. I'm sure there are enough threads to hold it in place just fine, but, with my horrible luck, something bad would happen - so I'll just order a new turbo today.

Maybe I can sell this old one for cheap. Perhaps somebody could use the internals or different parts from it.

 

[maxsilver]

Just got a call from the machine shop, they said the 4th hole's threads cannot be totally repaired. They want to drill out the first 1-2 threads, and the rest of them are fine (6-7 threads). I told him to go ahead and do it, but I think I'm just going to buy a whole new turbo anyway. I'm sure there are enough threads to hold it in place just fine, but, with my horrible luck, something bad would happen - so I'll just order a new turbo today.

Maybe I can sell this old one for cheap. Perhaps somebody could use the internals or different parts from it.

I suspect I would roll the dice and just re-use the turbo in this scenario, most of the threads sound like they are intact after all.

 

[Toddasaurus]

I suspect I would roll the dice and just re-use the turbo in this scenario, most of the threads sound like they are intact after all.

Normally I would agree. Chances are it would be just fine. But with my luck, and the huge hassle this has been, I'm not taking any chances - even though the odds are totally in my favor. It's not worth the tiny, almost insignificant, risk to me. All because this has been the most stressful and frustrating event for me.

 

[maxsilver]

Normally I would agree. Chances are it would be just fine. But with my luck, and the huge hassle this has been, I'm not taking any chances - even though the odds are totally in my favor. It's not worth the tiny, almost insignificant, risk to me. All because this has been the most stressful and frustrating event for me.

Perfectly understandable. If you were to encounter issues I would suspect it would be when you attempt to torque the nuts down. If the threads were to survive this step intact I struggle to see how they would fail down the road, given that it's only 1 of 4 bolts, so the load would be split across all 4 bolts.

 

[tarhoosier]

This can be your Plan B.

 

[pulsar]

I respect wanting things back factory new and factory perfect. But it really sounds like with 3 of 4 threaded holes just fine and the 1 threaded hole having 80% or better threads still remaining, I’d go for it and reuse the turbo. When you torq the problem hole, it’s either going to reach required torq or not. If you get factory torq on everything my money is on your good to go. Don’t see a bolt later on just pulling out. Now if you pulled that turbo off several times and re-torq each time, I can certainly see the weak hole and threads getting weaker from each torq usage.

 

[Toddasaurus]

I respect wanting things back factory new and factory perfect. But it really sounds like with 3 of 4 threaded holes just fine and the 1 threaded hole having 80% or better threads still remaining, I’d go for it and reuse the turbo. When you torq the problem hole, it’s either going to reach required torq or not. If you get factory torq on everything my money is on your good to go. Don’t see a bolt later on just pulling out. Now if you pulled that turbo off several times and re-torq each time, I can certainly see the weak hole and threads getting weaker from each torq usage.

I'm with you. And I really do think it would be fine, but I don't even want to have anything up to even the slightest risk. It's worth the $985 price tag for a new turbo for my peace of mind. If this car were older, I would 100% be on board to continue using the old turbo as is.

Just ordered the new turbo, along with replacement hardware and gaskets.

 

[maxsilver]

I'm with you. And I really do think it would be fine, but I don't even want to have anything up to even the slightest risk. It's worth the $985 price tag for a new turbo for my peace of mind. If this car were older, I would 100% be on board to continue using the old turbo as is.

Just ordered the new turbo, along with replacement hardware and gaskets.

It's not my money obviously, but you have already proven that you are capable of removing the turbo on your own, so this feels like you are spending money unnecessarily. If you ran into issues later you can once again remove the turbo and replace it at that time with zero labor cost.

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[danygenesis]

I'm with you. And I really do think it would be fine, but I don't even want to have anything up to even the slightest risk. It's worth the $985 price tag for a new turbo for my peace of mind. If this car were older, I would 100% be on board to continue using the old turbo as is.

Just ordered the new turbo, along with replacement hardware and gaskets.

Did they have it in stock? Will they ship it faster?
BTW I agree with you in buying a new turbo for the same reason, if the car were older I wouldn't hesitate to repair the old turbo but being you car so fu***ng new I think buying a new turbo is worth it. My two cents.

 

[Toddasaurus]

It's not my money obviously, but you have already proven that you are capable of removing the turbo on your own, so this feels like you are spending money unnecessarily. If you ran into issues later you can once again remove the turbo and replace it at that time with zero labor cost.

Money is one thing, but my time and sanity are more valuable to me at this point! While I certainly have the ability to do it, it doesn't make it any less of a pain in the ass. For me it's worth the price to negate the (although small) risk of having to remove this f*cking turbo again. Hopefully this statement illustrates just how frustrating a job this is.

Did they have it in stock? Will they ship it faster?
BTW I agree with you in buying a new turbo for the same reason, if the car were older I wouldn't hesitate to repair the old turbo but being you car so fu***ng new I think buying a new turbo is worth it. My two cents.

Agreed. Contacted the online dealer and they have the turbo in stock, along with all the necessary hardware and gaskets. It's ordered!

 

[Michael_V]

I have to say, after seeing your pics and reading your posts, "when the going gets tough, the Todd gets going. I wish you great luck and Godspeed in the reassembly of your beauty.

 

[maxsilver]

Money is one thing, but my time and sanity are more valuable to me at this point! While I certainly have the ability to do it, it doesn't make it any less of a pain in the ass. For me it's worth the price to negate the (although small) risk of having to remove this f*cking turbo again. Hopefully this statement illustrates just how frustrating a job this is.



Agreed. Contacted the online dealer and they have the turbo in stock, along with all the necessary hardware and gaskets. It's ordered!

I hear you loud and clear there. I've done several projects on my previous car that you couldn't pay me to do over again given how much of a pain in the ass they were, and this is likely worse than those were. I guess if you look at this from the right perspective it can feel like a massive win still, given that you were able to get the turbo out yourself and not have to sell your kidneys to pay for the dealership to order the necessary tool set for the job.

Once you're finished you should totally treat yourself to your favorite vice, whether it's a case of beer, fine bottle of scotch, 32 oz steak, whatever the case may be. You would have totally earned it by then.

 

[NLJ]

Since you took it to the dealership and also contacted Genesis US, doesn't that mean your warranty is void anyway?
Plus even if you fix it, will they warranty the turbo or engine since you're the one installing it and not the dealership?

 

[TurtleBoy]

^ They cannot void his entire warranty. Should a problem arise, they would have to tie the problem to the work done on the turbo in order to not cover it.

 

[Toddasaurus]

I hear you loud and clear there. I've done several projects on my previous car that you couldn't pay me to do over again given how much of a pain in the ass they were, and this is likely worse than those were. I guess if you look at this from the right perspective it can feel like a massive win still, given that you were able to get the turbo out yourself and not have to sell your kidneys to pay for the dealership to order the necessary tool set for the job.

Once you're finished you should totally treat yourself to your favorite vice, whether it's a case of beer, fine bottle of scotch, 32 oz steak, whatever the case may be. You would have totally earned it by then.

Thanks man. I appreciate that! And I think that's a great idea, I should take the family out for a really nice dinner (steak for me!) in my luxurious, fully operational, 2019 Genesis G70. Haha.

Since you took it to the dealership and also contacted Genesis US, doesn't that mean your warranty is void anyway?
Plus even if you fix it, will they warranty the turbo or engine since you're the one installing it and not the dealership?

I can only assume such is the case. I haven't had the heart to ask. I almost don't even want to bring it up, and just cross that bridge if/when it comes.

 

[danygenesis]

I don't think of any reason for his warranty to be voided not even his turbo warranty. He is replacing one broken part with another brand new OEM part. He decided to do the job to save some money but that's it. You are not obligated to use a dealer for any mechanical job. As far as you are using the correct certified Hyundai/Genesis part you are safe.

 

[NLJ]

I can only assume such is the case. I haven't had the heart to ask. I almost don't even want to bring it up, and just cross that bridge if/when it comes.

Yeah hopefully they forget about it by the time you actually need the warranty!

 

[tarhoosier]

I will have his back if Genesis tries some underhanded stuff with the warranty. I think quite a number of us would do so, as well.