Introduction - & in need of help!

[DacemberStorm]

Hello!! Dacember is the VERY PROUD owner of a Genesis coupe! however, at the moment this is just her boyfriend!! im only the proud owner of a work van

You will all meet her soon, i told her about this forum a few days ago, and she was very excited.. i have forums i am a part of, so she thought it will be cool to have one too

She was not quick to sign-up, but after her little accident the other day, I decided to speed up the process, and signed up here for her... So he is the issue, a couple of days ago she parked too far up a curve, and the black plastic piece under the car got caught on the curve (it was one of the concrete curves you will see at the mall, they are installed intop of the pavement... well thats besides the point) so i had to drive to the mall and get her out of there... i suggested she leave her car over night, and i would come back with the proper tools the next day, when the light is out... she was not having that..

so i just backed the car out, and it ripped that plastic piece half off, we drove it home half hanging there...

so, before i turn this post into a short novel, here's the point of this thread.

The plastic piece just seems to be a mud flap to the radiator, the "nut" is hard mounted into the frame of the radiator, and that broke in 'accident' not to mention, its slightly bent, so even if i could jimmy rig a bolt system back together, it does not fit properly, there for its hanging too low...

i can get it to land in the right spot, where it sitting high enough (where its is supposed to sit) but then the bolts dont match the the wholes of the plastic piece.... So, my thoughts are to just use wire ties to securely mount it up where it belongs...

I am pretty handy with most things, but cars are just not my things, i have to admit... with that said...

Question 1: is this a stupid idea?
Question 2: will the wire ties melt, when the radiator gets hot??
Question 3: will driving the car without this mud flap do damage?? if it were just the radiator exposed, i would not think much of it, but i also noticed some kind of spongy type thing.. obviously a filter of some sort, im guessing with the mud guard off, that will collect more then a healthy dose of dirt/dust.

thanks.. any thoughts, or advice will be appreciated... We don't really wanna take it to the dealership for such a petty 'accident'

their invoice would look something like this

"black plastic mud guard installation: $1,000.00" lol

sorry if the post was rather long :X


Edit: me and my gf found a pic thread in the sedan section... is there a pic section for the coupes??? can anyone link me, thanks

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. I'm going to leave the mechanical process to our members because that's just not my thing. However, if that plastic piece is the one I'm thinking of - it feeds air into your radiator - which, of course, is very important. You do need to get that fixed or the car will overheat.

 

[stacyo218]

Hi - this seemed like a good place to start.

I own a 2013 Genesis Coupe 3.8 M/T.

Like Dacember, I too am a proud owner. I'm working on an unfortunate bad luck streak. Last week I was rear ended and need to have my bumper replaced all at the cost of the other drivers insurance. That's good news. The damage was minimal as we were in bumper to bumper traffic. (basically just a screw hole from his plate and the phone number of his plate frame lightly noticeable) The actual damage is on the molded area where the license plate is. The estimate is just under $800 as the bumper and this area are one piece.

Yesterday, I believe my clutch went. I haven't heard from the dealer yet because it was after hours and only towed in this morning from the tow company. Oddly, at least for me, I was driving yesterday morning and the low tire pressure came on and bluelink called me. I answered as I was sitting in bumper to bumper traffic - and they advised that I needed air in one my tires. I checked and they were fine. Got to my destination and all was well. On the way home my clutch started being resistant, it was hard to shift and smoke started to come from the rear. I pulled over as best I could to an exit ramp on the grass area. The smoke smelled like a chemical smell - not oil or rubber.

I always get my oil changed at the dealer as it's under warranty and paid for at this point. I also have extended on the car. I had it at the dealer on 4/27. As far as they told me - all systems were a go.

Has anyone had this experince or similar? The car has 14k miles on it. I purchased it in December of 2013 - it was a dealer demo with 1200k miles on it. I have always driven M/T cars and never had to replace a clutch. This is my first experience with a brand new car (other than a Yugo when I was 18 - now that car was disposable!) and find it odd that this would burn out so quickly. I am not a 'clutch rider' and I rarely down shift. I live in a suburb of a city and spend a lot of time in traffic.

Sad.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Hi Stacy. Sorry, I don't have answers for you but I'll leave that to the more experienced people. I just wanted to welcome you and say - wow! You had a Yugo! I remember when they first came out. I felt it and the Hyundai Excel were pretty close quality-wise. I imagine the Yugo was actually much worse. Anyway... Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up...

 

[dbx]

Hi Stacy,

I'm sorry to learn of your recent bad luck. A clutch sure as heck shouldn't give out only a couple of years in use! My 2013 2.0T Coupe is the first automatic trans that I've owned in almost 30years! My 2000 Honda Accord has 180K miles on it and is a 5 spd manual, and the clutch, while wearing a bit, is still in great condition. That's 15 years! Of course, "user error" can cause premature wear on a clutch, but 2yrs is almost ridiculous....under almost any circumstances.

At least, you have your 10yr warranty to cover the needed fix. Me? I bought my 2013 only 3mths ago, and I only have sub 3yrs left on the warranty, not the 10yr deal a new car owner would have. This forum sometimes gives me pause/regret for not "buying" extra warranty (I'm a cheap guy ). On the other hand, I also realize that "problems" with any of our models is amplified here, only because it's a place to report/vent, and that the actual percentage of similar problems is not always systemic.

See your local dealer ASAP to have your issue resolved!

Best Regards,

dbx

 

[DacemberStorm]

Well Stacyo, congratulations, because it seems your bad luck streak has just come to an end!!

someone answered your thread, even before mine!!

with the exception of "Hyundai Genesis" himself, i seemed to get very little help (i had to take my thread to another section of the forum, got slightly more help there, but still not much) "Hyundai Genesis" seems to greet everyone that he/she can, and welcome them to the forum and that is awesome!! but apart from HG, i got very little response. You on the other hand got a reply in 1 day, i hope that means you luck has changed

on topic: as dbx said, seems very odd that the clutch would go with in 2 years, i really doubt that it could have been caused by a minimal damage rear-end accident, but i am no mechanic, i would get it looked at, and get an opinion by a mechanic of your choice! don't let the other drivers insurance company run the show, they will send your car to a mechanic of their choice, and get out of the repairs as cheap as possible.

assuming that the clutch was not due to the accident, hopefully your warranty will cover the cost of the new clutch, because im sure that will get expensive, and definitely no fault of yours... i guess its just the luck of the draw, when buying a car.. hope everything goes ok for you, and hold your head up high!! your bad luck has come to an end

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Well Stacyo, congratulations, because it seems your bad luck streak has just come to an end!!

someone answered your thread, even before mine!!

with the exception of "Hyundai Genesis" himself, i seemed to get very little help (i had to take my thread to another section of the forum, got slightly more help there, but still not much) "Hyundai Genesis" seems to greet everyone that he/she can, and welcome them to the forum and that is awesome!! but apart from HG, i got very little response. You on the other hand got a reply in 1 day, i hope that means you luck has changed

on topic: as dbx said, seems very odd that the clutch would go with in 2 years, i really doubt that it could have been caused by a minimal damage rear-end accident, but i am no mechanic, i would get it looked at, and get an opinion by a mechanic of your choice! don't let the other drivers insurance company run the show, they will send your car to a mechanic of their choice, and get out of the repairs as cheap as possible.

assuming that the clutch was not due to the accident, hopefully your warranty will cover the cost of the new clutch, because im sure that will get expensive, and definitely no fault of yours... i guess its just the luck of the draw, when buying a car.. hope everything goes ok for you, and hold your head up high!! your bad luck has come to an end

I'm sorry to hear your luck hasn't been the greatest here but I'm going to do my best to change that. We have a lack of Coupe owners as opposed to Sedan owners. I'm going to spend some more marketing dollars to add what's been missing here. I hope all you Coupe owners stick around and give me a little time to get things rolling around here...

 

[dbx]

I hope all you Coupe owners stick around and give me a little time to get things rolling around here...

I'm hoping to do just that! This manufacturer is still a "new kid on the block", and I'd like to be engaged with what's going on with them.

Truth be told, I know that their original offerings in the U.S. were embarrassing horrible. However, I know what they know; you will lose your biggest customer base (as a car company) if you don't get your act together quickly, because car purchases are usually the "second biggest investment" that most Americans make. If you get burned in any way...on any vehicle...you don't buy again from the same maker. And if you're lucky, you may win them back.....after a decade or much longer. Fact! I used to use this example when teaching customer service seminars, because it was our "Big 3" that made poorly made vehicles during the late 70's and through the 80's. Can you guess how Honda (especially), Toyota & Nissan became so prominent in the U.S.? U.S. car makers handed them the market! Even though I know they turned their game around in the 90's, I haven't bought a U.S made vehicle since 1984! I am not the exception, but rather, the norm.

 

[Top Gear]

This isn't really a Coupe forum, and Coupe owners like me don't check in here very often as we're totally ignored. Most Coupe threads are commented on by Sedan owners who don't seem to know anything about the Coupes. There is a very large and popular Coupe forum elsewhere and is easy to find (can't link to it from here).

...The plastic piece just seems to be a mud flap to the radiator, the "nut" is hard mounted into the frame of the radiator, and that broke in 'accident' not to mention, its slightly bent, so even if i could jimmy rig a bolt system back together, it does not fit properly, there for its hanging too low...

Sorry if I insult you, Dacember, but I could barely make any sense of your original post. Try to be clearer using straightforward English. Are you asking if one or any of the black plastic engine bay bottom covers will affect anything if they're gone? Not really, unless you keep running onto curbs (not "curves"). They are not heat shields, do not affect the tires or radiator. They are just there to protect the engine from road debris, and keep drips off the road. You might be able to find one from a parts supplier. Take a picture of the actual car and post it if you need more detail.

...Yesterday, I believe my clutch went....I was driving yesterday morning and the low tire pressure came on and bluelink called me. I answered as I was sitting in bumper to bumper traffic - and they advised that I needed air in one my tires. I checked and they were fine. Got to my destination and all was well. On the way home my clutch started being resistant, it was hard to shift and smoke started to come from the rear. I pulled over as best I could to an exit ramp on the grass area. The smoke smelled like a chemical smell - not oil or rubber....

Again, I had to wade through your post, which was in someone else's thread, to get to the question.

I think you're asking if your clutch is out as the car is apparently sitting on the side of the road somewhere. My guess is that your slave cylinder/throwout bearing is out, a normal failure, not the clutch itself, which is quite unlikely. The slave/throwout is powered by the brake lines and is normal wear and tear, so it should easily be covered under warranty.

The symptom is that you'd have to press the pedal down to the floor to change gears, when it's supposed to be up at the top, when you first put your foot on it - it's a "high" clutch with a quick ratio, as this is a sports car. So, if this combo slave/throwout bearing went out on yours, there was probably plenty of warning (mine was very noticeable at first, took it in and had it fixed before it failed). That would explain the smoke when it finally ended on you. The fix should be warranty work.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

Can you guess how Honda (especially), Toyota & Nissan became so prominent in the U.S.? U.S. car makers handed them the market! Even though I know they turned their game around in the 90's, I haven't bought a U.S made vehicle since 1984! I am not the exception, but rather, the norm.

I know EXACTLY what you mean! And the reason the "big three" aren't taking over the entire market considering their products are NOW - finally - just about on par with their German and Japanese competition - is actually a no brainer. WHY would foreign car customers switch BACK?

These customers didn't LEAVE the domestic brands because foreign cars were "just as good". They LEFT because they were BETTER. So, in most cases, these customers aren't going to go BACK(wards) to Chrysler, Ford and GM unless THEIR products are BETTER. It's really simple.

...and it's a shame because "the big three" ARE building very impressive products there days...

This isn't really a Coupe forum, and Coupe owners like me don't check in here very often as we're totally ignored. Most Coupe threads are commented on by Sedan owners who don't seem to know anything about the Coupes.

As mentioned, I hope you and other Genesis Coupe owners stick around and give this place a chance. It's NOT meant to be a Genesis Sedan site. It's mean to be a "Genesis" site - which will cater to ALL Hyundai luxury products. In time, the Equus and Sante Fe, as well as a new BMW 3-Series sized competitor - will fall under the "Genesis" brand. This site is, in NO way, intended to be for the owners of ONE specific "Genesis" model.

So please - stick around and spread the word that we (at least I) really want a good Coupe crowd around here...

Thank you...

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[dbx]

These customers didn't LEAVE the domestic brands because foreign cars were "just as good". They LEFT because they were BETTER.

Actually, customers left to "take a chance" on Japanese models because, American models had become so poor. Thus, when they realized that their "newly" bought Honda, Nissan or Toyota was so dependable, they just didn't have the need to buy a new car! And so....they kept them, for 200-300K miles! Never heard of before! The U.S. Big 3 lost 20-50yrs of car selling, due to just over 10yrs of piss-poor car building. This is how this market works...in reality!

Ever been to a restaurant and the service/food/wait-time was bad? Of course, you have. But even if it was a "chain" restaurant, you probably said that, "I'm never going to another....". Unrealistic, as you have a bad store, cashier, cold food, etc., in an otherwise great run chain. But again, make someone disappointed with a 10K, 20K, 30K, or 40K+ car? It's over! They won't come back....for more years than any company can bear, when it comes to sales loss.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I hear ya. Have you ever done a close examination of the interior of a domestic car in the 80s vs one in a Japanese car? It's ridiculous...

Actually, customers left to "take a chance" on Japanese models because, American models had become so poor. Thus, when they realized that their "newly" bought Honda, Nissan or Toyota was so dependable, they just didn't have the need to buy a new car! And so....they kept them, for 200-300K miles! Never heard of before! The U.S. Big 3 lost 20-50yrs of car selling, due to just over 10yrs of piss-poor car building. This is how this market works...in reality!

Ever been to a restaurant and the service/food/wait-time was bad? Of course, you have. But even if it was a "chain" restaurant, you probably said that, "I'm never going to another....". Unrealistic, as you have a bad store, cashier, cold food, etc., in an otherwise great run chain. But again, make someone disappointed with a 10K, 20K, 30K, or 40K+ car? It's over! They won't come back....for more years than any company can bear, when it comes to sales loss.

 

[stacyo218]

Hi Stacy,

I'm sorry to learn of your recent bad luck. A clutch sure as heck shouldn't give out only a couple of years in use! My 2013 2.0T Coupe is the first automatic trans that I've owned in almost 30years! My 2000 Honda Accord has 180K miles on it and is a 5 spd manual, and the clutch, while wearing a bit, is still in great condition. That's 15 years! Of course, "user error" can cause premature wear on a clutch, but 2yrs is almost ridiculous....under almost any circumstances.

At least, you have your 10yr warranty to cover the needed fix. Me? I bought my 2013 only 3mths ago, and I only have sub 3yrs left on the warranty, not the 10yr deal a new car owner would have. This forum sometimes gives me pause/regret for not "buying" extra warranty (I'm a cheap guy ). On the other hand, I also realize that "problems" with any of our models is amplified here, only because it's a place to report/vent, and that the actual percentage of similar problems is not always systemic.

See your local dealer ASAP to have your issue resolved!

Best Regards,

dbx

Hi dbx,

Unfortunately, I finally heard from the dealer when they got the chance to check it out - a week later. It is the clutch and it's not under warranty. They want to charge me 4k to fix it. They claim it's user error. I call BS. I have my calls into Hyundai because there is no way I did the damage they are claiming.

We'll see what happens.

 

[stacyo218]

Welcome aboard! And thank you for signing up. I'm going to leave the mechanical process to our members because that's just not my thing. However, if that plastic piece is the one I'm thinking of - it feeds air into your radiator - which, of course, is very important. You do need to get that fixed or the car will overheat.

Thank you!

 

[stacyo218]

Well Stacyo, congratulations, because it seems your bad luck streak has just come to an end!!

someone answered your thread, even before mine!!

with the exception of "Hyundai Genesis" himself, i seemed to get very little help (i had to take my thread to another section of the forum, got slightly more help there, but still not much) "Hyundai Genesis" seems to greet everyone that he/she can, and welcome them to the forum and that is awesome!! but apart from HG, i got very little response. You on the other hand got a reply in 1 day, i hope that means you luck has changed

on topic: as dbx said, seems very odd that the clutch would go with in 2 years, i really doubt that it could have been caused by a minimal damage rear-end accident, but i am no mechanic, i would get it looked at, and get an opinion by a mechanic of your choice! don't let the other drivers insurance company run the show, they will send your car to a mechanic of their choice, and get out of the repairs as cheap as possible.

assuming that the clutch was not due to the accident, hopefully your warranty will cover the cost of the new clutch, because im sure that will get expensive, and definitely no fault of yours... i guess its just the luck of the draw, when buying a car.. hope everything goes ok for you, and hold your head up high!! your bad luck has come to an end

LOL I'm sorry my post beat yours in responses. I'm not sure my bad luck has come to an end. The dealer finally looked at the car - a week later and they inform me that's it my fault and they will fix it for 4k - no warranty. Of course I am fighting it. There's just no way that I caused this. There was no indication that there were something wrong with the clutch until it stopped working. In the center lane on a really busy Metro NY parkway.

I already have an appointment for the bumper to get fixed with my auto body shop. It's fully covered by the other guys insurance company. All I need now is a running car to get it in for repair.

Thanks for your response.

 

[stacyo218]

This isn't really a Coupe forum, and Coupe owners like me don't check in here very often as we're totally ignored. Most Coupe threads are commented on by Sedan owners who don't seem to know anything about the Coupes. There is a very large and popular Coupe forum elsewhere and is easy to find (can't link to it from here).


Sorry if I insult you, Dacember, but I could barely make any sense of your original post. Try to be clearer using straightforward English. Are you asking if one or any of the black plastic engine bay bottom covers will affect anything if they're gone? Not really, unless you keep running onto curbs (not "curves"). They are not heat shields, do not affect the tires or radiator. They are just there to protect the engine from road debris, and keep drips off the road. You might be able to find one from a parts supplier. Take a picture of the actual car and post it if you need more detail.


Again, I had to wade through your post, which was in someone else's thread, to get to the question.

I think you're asking if your clutch is out as the car is apparently sitting on the side of the road somewhere. My guess is that your slave cylinder/throwout bearing is out, a normal failure, not the clutch itself, which is quite unlikely. The slave/throwout is powered by the brake lines and is normal wear and tear, so it should easily be covered under warranty.

The symptom is that you'd have to press the pedal down to the floor to change gears, when it's supposed to be up at the top, when you first put your foot on it - it's a "high" clutch with a quick ratio, as this is a sports car. So, if this combo slave/throwout bearing went out on yours, there was probably plenty of warning (mine was very noticeable at first, took it in and had it fixed before it failed). That would explain the smoke when it finally ended on you. The fix should be warranty work.

My apologies - I am new to this forum and didn't know where to start. It is the clutch/flywheel. The dealer wants to charge 4k to replace. Not warrantied. No indication it was 'going' until it was gone! I drove to work in the morning - all was fine. No indication there was anything wrong with the clutch. Like I said, Bluelink called and mentioned low tire pressure.....nothing on the clutch or anything else for that matter. Ironic. I left work and all was fine. A half hour into the ride it just stopped working.

Thank you for your response.

 

[Top Gear]

I'm sorry to hear that, Stacy. I don't know why the clutch would go out. They may also have misdiagnosed it. You didn't give much detail, other than it just went out, so I don't have much to go on. You might call other dealers in the area.

 

[DacemberStorm]

Sorry if I insult you, Dacember, but I could barely make any sense of your original post. Try to be clearer using straightforward English. Are you asking if one or any of the black plastic engine bay bottom covers will affect anything if they're gone? Not really, unless you keep running onto curbs (not "curves"). They are not heat shields, do not affect the tires or radiator. They are just there to protect the engine from road debris, and keep drips off the road. You might be able to find one from a parts supplier. Take a picture of the actual car and post it if you need more detail.

Sorry if I insult you, but that was rather dick'ish!! oops, maybe you did not understand that last statement, let me say it in straight forward English.

You sir, are an *******.

my point being, just because you say "Sorry if I insult you" does not give you the right to be an ass

I'm really not sure how i could have expressed myself more clear, apart from knowing the "black plastic piece that seems to be a mud guard" is really called a "black plastic engine bay bottom cover"

lol give me a break, i said curve instead of curb... i did not know we have a grammar natzi on the loose in these forums. This is not my first rodeo, i have encountered several grammar natzi's from several forums, but usually they have perfect grammar... you however do not.. ever heard the expression "when you live in a glass house, don't throw stones"?

anyway, its not a case of me just going to a parts dealer and buying a new "black plastic engine bay bottom cover" because that part is actually fine... its the radiator the got bent in the 'accident'

one side of the radiator bent, the other side the bolt broke.

(the bolt is hard mounted into the radiator)... rather then just putting the nut in, and a bolt on the backside like you might expect... the bolt is actually fixed permanently into the radiator... so driver side is bent forward, passenger side bolt is broken, making it impossible to put the piece back on properly.

if you truly are interested in helping, and think a picture would help you understand, just say so without offending me.

 

[Top Gear]

Let's see...

...Are you asking if one or any of the black plastic engine bay bottom covers will affect anything if they're gone? Not really...They are not heat shields, do not affect the tires or radiator. They are just there to protect the engine from road debris, and keep drips off the road. You might be able to find one from a parts supplier. Take a picture of the actual car and post it if you need more detail.

Yeah, I can see how these simple suggestions, which you totally ignored, gave you the right to insult me with 10 times the silly remarks as you feel I made toward you. And of course, the nature of the damage has somehow changed from post to post. Now it's the radiator, and not just a bent bolt? If that's the case, then you need to have the car looked at by a dealer who knows these cars. This is why people with knowledge are reluctant to help on discussion forums.

 

[Sal Collaziano]

I really don't want to see personal insults being thrown around. Sometimes, no - often - you need thick skin to participate in these forum communities. Most people are willing to help but sometimes you'll find one with a chip on their shoulder. You can't take that personally because all they're doing is responding to text on a screen.

Please try to be civilized...