is the AC Weak in the 2012 Genesis?

[Potty_Pants]

If stopped, I feel the cabin heating again up and the AC not cooling at a good efficiency.

Again we are talking 90-95F degree outside temp.

Similar to your experience?

I complained to the local Honda Dealer for this same issue. when stopped cooling is substantially reduced. the Dealer's story was this is coded into the car for emissions/fuel economy concerns. prob would explain it if multiple cars were acting the similar. Note my bmw doesnt exhibit this trait.

ppp

 

[QCTLG]

Here's my theory...
Having owned my car for over 3+ years, this is what I noticed.
First of all, so you know, I'm not a person who uses AC all that much.
It is quite rare that I put the AC on in my car.

This is what I noticed.

When the car moves along the air coming through the vents is about the same as the outside temp. This is all good BUT when in traffic or stop and go or moving very slowly, the temp coming out of the vents significantly rises!
again this is WITHOUT the AC or with AC OFF!

It behaves the same with the AC on. For the odd times I use the AC, when I know that I'll be in traffic or city/slow driving, I just push the recirculate button,

Just my theory.

Regards

 

[Jerryss]

This AC is weak. So weak in fact, that I am thinking of going and getting the dealer to check it for a freon recharge, with 35,000 miles on it - I am in North Carlina Outer Banks this week, and NEED the AC, and it takes a while to get "not hot", and takes a while to get cool -

 

[Glashub]

For some reason pushing the "A" button while the air is on "Auto" seems to accelerate the cooling process. Probably wishful thinking on my part.

It took about 64 seconds for the air from the vents to go from blazing hot, to warm with a trend towards cold in a Genesis that had been sitting in the heat under a dust cover.

Acura TL took about 15 seconds to get to cold in the same circumstances.

 

[QuantumRift]

We're are out here in SE Arizona where the SUN is BRUTALLY, well, BRUTAL most of the year. Even a white vehicle even with GOOD tinting gets HOT here.

You have to remember that a car sitting in the HOT sun will heat up. ALL THE INTERIOR components heat up, and radiate infrared heat at you. The AIR DUCTS in the car heat up as well, and are full of HOT air...the AC has to overcome that initially when you want it cool...so ROLL DOWN THE WINDOWS and have the AIR set to OUTSIDE to EXHAUST the air FROM the ducts into the vehicle and out the windows. It's a MUST. I leave it in AUTO mode, and have the temp set to like, 63. IT roars to life and once it starts cranking cool, I roll up the windows....I adjust the "FAN SPEED" with the temp controls on AUTO, and it works pretty well and it cools fast. But the AC has to COOL down the HOT ducts themselves in addition to blowing the hot air out. The seats, etc will all be radiating heat back out even after the air cools down. So I kick on the seat cooler to help. All in all, we find the AC to be more than adequate if properly used.

 

[scottdk]

Bringing back a dead thread

http://www.genesisowners.com/hyundai-genesis-forum/showthread.php?t=2650

 

[douglasqualls]

My 2012 Genesis has quite the same symptoms: the air blows COOL but certainly not at all as cold as I experience in my other vehicles. When I took the car in for service, I asked them to check the climate control and the refrigerant, and they said there is nothing wrong with the vehicle. I'm guessing that the system is simply weak and that's the way it is.

 

[douglasqualls]

My local Hyundai dealer is recommending a product which is added to the refrigerant, named "ArcticBlast". www.never2cold.com Only available through a dealer or other agent.

 

[Gunkk]

Let us know if the Arctic Blast helps any.

 

[Qbedobedoo]

I feel like the odd man out... My A/C kicks in within 30 secs at full blast, giving me an Arctic like environment within 1 min. Mind you, this is with an outside temp above 100F.

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[Aquineas]

Mine seems a bit weak too on 95+F days after sitting in the sun a few hrs (West coast of FL). Have to get the car moving consistently over 30 mph for a few mins to get enough air across the condenser to get the AC to blow cold properly.

Same issue in Texas on my 2010. Haven't had the 2012 system tested yet.

 

[Aquineas]

Thanks, but I am not an idiot. I have lived in hot climates my entire life. This has nothing to do with recirculating hot air initially.

I'd rather someone tell me something I already know a thousand times than not tell me something I don't know once.

 

[Waki]

With a blazing hot summer in Ontario ( 90-100F), I have no trouble with my 2012 Gennie. Operate in recirc, NEVER AUTO. Car starts cooling in seconds, very comfortable.

 

[douglasqualls]

My local Hyundai agency added "ArcticBlast" supplement (www.never2cool.com) and it immediately and observably improved the functioning of the air conditioning system. Where it was blowing cool at a stop or under 1500 RPMs, now it blows COLD. The performance is improved as well when the car is operated at higher speeds (like 40-50 MPH). The performance of the product is most satisfactory.

**correction: the link should be www.never2cold.com

 

[Aquineas]

My local Hyundai agency added "ArcticBlast" supplement (www.never2cool.com) and it immediately and observably improved the functioning of the air conditioning system. Where it was blowing cool at a stop or under 1500 RPMs, now it blows COLD. The performance is improved as well when the car is operated at higher speeds (like 40-50 MPH). The performance of the product is most satisfactory.

Sounds interesting, though your link didn't work.

 

[Waki]

Searching using Artic Blast returned the answer although it's only available in Arizona it appears..

 

[Qbedobedoo]

Arctic-Blast

 

[douglasqualls]

Please accept my apologies: the correct link is www.never2cold.com

The Hyundai agency in Palm Springs just got it, and it's only available through dealerships or possibly a mechanic.

 

[nwiggan]

I have a 2010 and I have the same problem.
Had it in for them to check it had a brand new 2013 and the same thing

 

[landtuna]

Arctic Blast seems just like another customer rip-off and its distribution through new car dealerships is highly suspect.

Without knowing anything about the chemical make-up of the product itself the marketing is typical snake oil. Dealerships already are the highest cost car maintenance shops in existence. Their use by the makers of Arctic Blast seems like nothing more than an effort to drive more business to them and split obscene profits for an unneeded product and service. If the product were truly worthwhile it would be on the open market and available to anyone with A/C credentials.

Because all such refrigerants have to comply with a series of EPA rules I suspect Arctic Blast is nothing more than ordinary R134 with possibly some compressor oil or other inert additives.

While it is true R-134 is not as efficient as the previous R12 it is also true that there is not a "2-4 MPG" difference as stated by the makers of Arctic Blast. Dozens of tests by credible car magazines and test labs such as Consumer Reports have determined the average penalty for the use of A/C in a vehicle is about 1 MPG and can even be more efficient than driving with open windows.

A properly maintained R134 system can keep your vehicle cool and comfortable and does not need any snake oil to help in that effort.