LKAS Warning Message No Hands on the wheel

[Elizanda]

Good morning All... I've got a brand new 2018 G80 and have been having some problems when I use the LKAS lane keeping assist system. When I am driving in a straight line at 70 mph and the car is tracking very well and I have both hands on the wheel at 10 / 2 position, I get the warning that I need to have my hands on the wheel. I take my hands off the wheel and the message goes away... also if I wiggle the wheel back and forth very slightly it immediately goes away. I've had it into the dealer twice for this problem and they can't see why it is happening. Other than this I LOVE MY NEW CAR!!!

Any help?

Best
Ernie Johnson

 

[Elizanda]

I, too love my Genesis G80 and I have the same issue. I drive with the hands on 8 and 4 and the LKAS message comes on at random times. I press hard and then it shuts off. I have small hands and wonder if I need to grip very tightly. I have not taken it in for service, as I imagine it is a delicate switch somewhere and I prefer that it gives the alarm rather than does not give the alarm. I will follow this thread if someone who has taken it in finds a simple solution.

 

[EdP]

I, too love my Genesis G80 and I have the same issue. I drive with the hands on 8 and 4 and the LKAS message comes on at random times. I press hard and then it shuts off. I have small hands and wonder if I need to grip very tightly. I have not taken it in for service, as I imagine it is a delicate switch somewhere and I prefer that it gives the alarm rather than does not give the alarm. I will follow this thread if someone who has taken it in finds a simple solution.

This has come up a few times and there seems to be no definite conclusion. {erhpas yours is more sensitive than most. I've only had it once when I had a very light touch on the wheel but on a straight highway I can drive forever with two fingers at 8 o'clock. The car track so damned good you don't have to play with the wheel to keep it going.

I've also driven with gloves and the lack of skin contact makes no difference. Seems like the slightest jiggle of the wheel can keep the alarm off but there has been nothing other than that mentioned .

 

[Elizanda]

I agree in that the wheel does not require much to keep straight on the highway. All the events have been on the highway, driving straight, thus, the suggestion of one of the owners of this site that the sensors may need some slight hand movement may have some validity. I can accept the small irritation if I am certain that I am not overlooking an easy fix. Thanks for the response.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

wheel needs slight movement every few minutes.. if you have it is "active" mode it is a lot more aggressive/sensitive to the need for movement and alerts within a minute or so, in standard mode it takes a bit longer.

I find that just a tick of the wheel keeps it from barking at me. moving your hand along the wheel for example say from the 8 o'clock to the 9 o'clock and back, enough of a motion that it knows you have a hand on the wheel.

 

[Elizanda]

Will try this. Thanks for the suggestion!

 

[Mcc]

wheel needs slight movement every few minutes.. if you have it is "active" mode it is a lot more aggressive/sensitive to the need for movement and alerts within a minute or so, in standard mode it takes a bit longer.

I find that just a tick of the wheel keeps it from barking at me. moving your hand along the wheel for example say from the 8 o'clock to the 9 o'clock and back, enough of a motion that it knows you have a hand on the wheel.

Agreed. It’s not how tight you grip. It’s just the small movements of the wheel.

 

[Elizanda]

Got it. Will try this approach: small movements of the wheel. Will report back in a couple of weeks of this experiment.

 

[EdP]

Got it. Will try this approach: small movements of the wheel. Will report back in a couple of weeks of this experiment.

I've only had it go off once in two cars and 50,000 miles. I have to wonder if it is the way I hold the wheel or if I just have twitchy hands that move enough to prevent it. I know it works because I have taken my hands off the wheel to see how long I can go.

 

[drumdudeguy]

I have a 2018 G80 Standard and mine does this too. I just switch LKAS off. Otherwise the car is great!

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[Mcc]

I have a 2018 G80 Standard and mine does this too. I just switch LKAS off. Otherwise the car is great!

I think it works too well (especially on long freeway trips) to turn it off.

 

[drumdudeguy]

I think I may have the answer to this issue. Go into the Driving Assist menu and change the LKAS from "Active" to "Standard". That solved the problem for me. I drove 200 miles today and never got the warning!

 

[Don88]

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[Don88]

I think I may have the answer to this issue. Go into the Driving Assist menu and change the LKAS from "Active" to "Standard". That solved the problem for me. I drove 200 miles today and never got the warning!

Thanks for the great detective work; 'been annoyed with the alarm many times over the past twelve months of G80 ownership. I'll change it to your suggestion in the morning and give it a test. 'have a 20 mile errand to run in the morning - getting a dash cam installed.

 

[Windchaser]

I think I may have the answer to this issue. Go into the Driving Assist menu and change the LKAS from "Active" to "Standard". That solved the problem for me. I drove 200 miles today and never got the warning!

Yes, that will reduce or eliminate the warning however it also changes the way the LKAS works. When set to active the car will maintain ins position in the lane automatically. It is capable of steering around gentle curves on the highway and will try to keep the car centered in the lane. Though it sometimes favors one side over the other. When in standard mode it will only attempt to correct the position of the car once the car starts to cross the line. It is much less aggressive when doing this than when set to active mode meaning you may still drift out of your lane before it reacts.

 

[Don88]

Yes, that will reduce or eliminate the warning however it also changes the way the LKAS works. When set to active the car will maintain ins position in the lane automatically. It is capable of steering around gentle curves on the highway and will try to keep the car centered in the lane. Though it sometimes favors one side over the other. When in standard mode it will only attempt to correct the position of the car once the car starts to cross the line. It is much less aggressive when doing this than when set to active mode meaning you may still drift out of your lane before it reacts.

I tried the Standard Lane Control and received wheel alarms; went back to the Active mode and will continue using the "hands off" solution to silence the alarm.

 

[WPB]

Comment and a thought:
Comment - Just returned from a 2000+ mile trip from Florida to Pennsylvania and back. Went through a very heavy downpour on route 30 through York, PA at dusk. The LKAS kept functioning even though I could hardly see the road. This was very helpful - LKAS let me know I was in my lane and I only had to worry about my distance from the car ahead.
Thought - on the trip I had the hands on wheel alert go off twice when I was in a gentle long curve. I was obviously moving the wheel small amounts to stay centered in the lane. Wonder if the alarm is triggered by the LKAS sensing no change in the distance to the lines for long periods of time and not some steering wheel sensor.

 

[Mr. Incredible]

Comment and a thought:
Comment - Just returned from a 2000+ mile trip from Florida to Pennsylvania and back. Went through a very heavy downpour on route 30 through York, PA at dusk. The LKAS kept functioning even though I could hardly see the road. This was very helpful - LKAS let me know I was in my lane and I only had to worry about my distance from the car ahead.
Thought - on the trip I had the hands on wheel alert go off twice when I was in a gentle long curve. I was obviously moving the wheel small amounts to stay centered in the lane. Wonder if the alarm is triggered by the LKAS sensing no change in the distance to the lines for long periods of time and not some steering wheel sensor.

There is no steer wheel sensor per say. The system relies on small movements of the steering wheel to determine if you have hands on, no change in movement for 30 seconds sends the first alert, I’ve timed it over and over and 30 seconds is the first notification, then 15 seconds after that is the second, I haven’t truste the system enough to see what happens after it tells you it will be deactivating, which is the 3rd alert at 30 seconds after the first alert.


In a long sweeping curve I can see change in movement and the alarm being triggered, guess it depends on the curve.

There is a freeway interchange I use that is a long sweeping gentle curve, but from entry to exit onto the new highway only take 30-40 seconds at 65mph. LKA will steer my G80 through the entire turn with hands off and the alarm doesn’t trigger until the end of the turn. I’ve done my timing tests here and unless SCC slows me for a car in front of me I can make that entire interchange hands free. If SCC slows me because of another car the LKA will alert me before the end of the turn when the straight away happens.

 

[Don88]

We experienced a LKA system turn off on a recent trip. How does one turn it on again?

 

[EdP]

We experienced a LKA system turn off on a recent trip. How does one turn it on again?

If it went off due to taking your hands off, it should go right back on again when you take control. There is a button on the lower left of the dash to turn it off and on. Check your setup:

The driver can change LKAS to Lane Departure Warning System (LDWS) or
the LKAS mode between Standard LKA and Active LKA from the User
Settings Mode on the LCD display.
Lane Departure Warning
LDWS alerts the driver with a visual
and acoustic warning when the system
detects the vehicle leaving the
lane. In this mode, the steering wheel
will not be controlled. When the vehicle’s
front wheel contacts the inside
edge of lane line, LKAS issues the
lane departure warning.
Standard LKA
The Standard LKA mode guides the
driver to help keep the vehicle within
the lanes. It rarely controls the steering
wheel, when the vehicle drives
well inside the lanes. However, it
starts to control the steering wheel,
when the vehicle is about to deviate
out of the lanes.
Active LKA
The Active LKA mode provides more
frequent steering wheel control in
comparison with the Standard LKA
mode. Active LKA can reduce the driver’s
fatigue to assist the steering for
maintaining the vehicle in the middle
of the lane.